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Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   10-31-2014, 07:49 AM
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Posted By Ken Ross
A politician in the making! :D

A politician in the making! :D
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   10-31-2014, 07:47 AM
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Posted By Ken Ross
I was always under the impression that Samsung's...

I was always under the impression that Samsung's rejection rate was much higher than LG's. Live and learn.
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   10-31-2014, 07:18 AM
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Posted By Ken Ross
Bob, we've got to be careful this doesn't start...

Bob, we've got to be careful this doesn't start another DNR discussion that spirals out of control again.
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   10-31-2014, 07:13 AM
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Posted By Ken Ross
Because you are confusing the benefits of UHD...

Because you are confusing the benefits of UHD (3840X2160) vs 2K (1920x1080) against the impact of DNR. UHD has 4X the resolution of 2K. The issue of DNR surrounds the attenuation of the highest...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   10-31-2014, 06:32 AM
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Posted By Ken Ross
The jump from 2K to 4K is far greater than the...

The jump from 2K to 4K is far greater than the impact of going from DNR to no DNR. But we've moved past DNR, so let's not rehash that.
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   10-30-2014, 04:00 PM
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Posted By Ken Ross
The difference is that Samsung adopted an OLED...

The difference is that Samsung adopted an OLED technology that proved far more difficult in terms of offering effective yields. At least with the 55" LG, that's not been the case...certainly not to...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   10-30-2014, 02:04 PM
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Posted By Ken Ross
Just saw your post Mark. We're done.

Just saw your post Mark. We're done.
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   10-30-2014, 02:03 PM
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Posted By Ken Ross
As long as the picture is presented AT VIEWING...

As long as the picture is presented AT VIEWING DISTANCE. IOW, not zoomed in, not taken at 2', but rather at 6'-8' from a 55" LG 9300 OLED. We all can't wait.

Just out of curiosity, what will your...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   10-30-2014, 02:00 PM
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Posted By Ken Ross
And where was my verbiage linked to the 9300....

And where was my verbiage linked to the 9300. Bruce, really, please read what was written. Unreal. Do you think I was also talking about the 9300 when I mentioned audio equipment.

Man oh man oh...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   10-30-2014, 01:58 PM
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Posted By Ken Ross
Bruce, you'd be providing a great service if you...

Bruce, you'd be providing a great service if you could post a picture from a 55" LG OLED, at a typical viewing distance, say 6'-8', where the effects of DNR are clearly visible.
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   10-30-2014, 01:53 PM
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Posted By Ken Ross
So why is it the opposing voices are shunned? Bob...

So why is it the opposing voices are shunned? Bob is an owner, Bob is involved in production, Bob in not 'ridiculing' it, he's simply stating his opinion of the severity as I've done.

I noticed...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   10-30-2014, 01:47 PM
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Posted By Ken Ross
Frankly, this whole DNR discussion leaves me...

Frankly, this whole DNR discussion leaves me breathless. Never have I seen so much talk about something that's so minimal and for which even those complaining about it, would probably never have made...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   10-30-2014, 01:44 PM
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Posted By Ken Ross
There is no spin when almost all of the owners...

There is no spin when almost all of the owners never reported seeing it. How could that possibly be called 'spin'?
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   10-30-2014, 01:42 PM
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Posted By Ken Ross
For most people, at viewing distance, the DNR...

For most people, at viewing distance, the DNR impact is invisible. At closer distances where it 'might' start to manifest itself with some, then the impact might be subtle. If the DNR is subtle, its...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   10-30-2014, 01:37 PM
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Posted By Ken Ross
"Scandalous"? OK. Somehow I'd reserve that term...

"Scandalous"? OK. Somehow I'd reserve that term for far more serious issues than what occurs in a TV. However, since some of you are always mentioning that LG has a history of non-defeatable DNR,...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   10-30-2014, 01:30 PM
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Posted By Ken Ross
I should have been crystal clear about it, "No...

I should have been crystal clear about it, "No OWNER had ever seen or commented about DNR". Does that work for you?

BTW, all the pros at the shootout consisted of David, D-Nice and Kevin. The pros...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   10-30-2014, 01:27 PM
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Posted By Ken Ross
Jeez, gimme a break. Where did I say that anyone...

Jeez, gimme a break. Where did I say that anyone called the 9300 a piece of garbage. Get a grip, seriously.
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   10-30-2014, 04:30 AM
Replies: 503
Views: 13,182
Posted By Ken Ross
Absolutely. My point was that even with the...

Absolutely. My point was that even with the presence of DNR, it's still difficult to discern the detail difference between the LG and the $23,000 Sony with no DNR processing. You needed to be 5' or...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   10-30-2014, 04:25 AM
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Posted By Ken Ross
I've always found that fascinating. It's far from...

I've always found that fascinating. It's far from the first time something like that has happened around here.

Owners, reviewers etc, could be loving a piece of equipment, audio or video, until...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   10-30-2014, 04:12 AM
Replies: 503
Views: 13,182
Posted By Ken Ross
I don't think it works that way. When processing...

I don't think it works that way. When processing a 1080p signal on the UHD display, if DNR is still present, you'll probably get the same effects as you would with a 1080p display. All you've done...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   10-29-2014, 08:08 PM
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Views: 13,182
Posted By Ken Ross
No, read through the multiple owner threads. Yes,...

No, read through the multiple owner threads. Yes, DNR is there, but the overwhelming majority of owners don't see it.
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   10-29-2014, 08:05 PM
Replies: 503
Views: 13,182
Posted By Ken Ross
Oops, you are correct. Thanks. I'll amend my post.

Oops, you are correct. Thanks. I'll amend my post.
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   10-29-2014, 08:03 PM
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Views: 13,182
Posted By Ken Ross
So let's get you on record with this. You saw the...

So let's get you on record with this. You saw the 9700, you were excited about the 9700 and you thought the picture was amazing. You were so impressed you would get one with a good deal.

Now,...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   10-29-2014, 07:45 PM
Replies: 503
Views: 13,182
Posted By Ken Ross
Just continue to ignore screen size in the...

Just continue to ignore screen size in the equation, it's irrelevant. :D
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   10-29-2014, 07:40 PM
Replies: 503
Views: 13,182
Posted By Ken Ross
So even compared to the $23,000 Sony professional...

So even compared to the $23,000 Sony professional OLED monitor, you still had to try hard to seei it at 5'. I've never had the pleasure to be able to do that A/B, but I have seen Blu Rays I'm...
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