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Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-25-2017, 07:46 PM
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Posted By rogo
Slice this however you want. Pricing is down 16%...

Slice this however you want. Pricing is down 16% only on the entry model (save for any special deal Costco has). That's far less than the annual 30% price drops we've come to expect on tech like...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-21-2017, 03:42 PM
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Posted By rogo
Is it? By how much. $1000? That's 16%. I don't...

Is it? By how much. $1000? That's 16%. I don't see how that's good news.



I'm seeing pre-orders for the 65C7P at $4999.

https://www.crutchfield.com/S-OpV8WI2EcGW/p_68965C7/LG-OLED65C7P.html...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-21-2017, 12:51 AM
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Posted By rogo
I'm still not understanding how we're supposed to...

I'm still not understanding how we're supposed to consider $1500 price increases good news.

I know it's been extensively rationalized here. But $5000 for a TV that was $3000 and is currently...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-16-2017, 08:45 AM
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Posted By rogo
I'm sure the 10.5G vs. 11G thing is just...

I'm sure the 10.5G vs. 11G thing is just terminology. A distinction without a difference.

If lots of adoption is occurring around a particular substrate size, it would of course behoove LG to...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-15-2017, 10:30 PM
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Posted By rogo
Yes, that 77 had no particular reason to exist...

Yes, that 77 had no particular reason to exist given 98 was as efficient but that 77 might have been a good, practical choice given LG likely had issues (initially) building rigid enough, super thin...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-12-2017, 08:26 PM
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Posted By rogo
43/49/55/65/72 isn't a bad lineup. It's not a...

43/49/55/65/72 isn't a bad lineup. It's not a great one because of that 10-inch gap in the middle though. They might be able to make it work by essentially going bezel-less on those 65s and 72s. I...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-10-2017, 05:32 PM
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Posted By rogo
Couple of notes: 1) Your analysis of sizes...

Couple of notes:

1) Your analysis of sizes in the other post was really outstanding. I'd pick a few nits, for example, Sharp more or less invented the practical 70-inch display. They could set...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-10-2017, 12:14 AM
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Posted By rogo
The claim of it being a re-badged 2016 was...

The claim of it being a re-badged 2016 was sourced to Robert Zohn of Value Electronics. The LG specs seem to suggest that is just flat-out false, however.

We will know soon.
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-10-2017, 12:12 AM
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Posted By rogo
I think we can once and for all rule dispense...

I think we can once and for all rule dispense with the notion that printed OLEDs are coming soon. Really. Like the next time someone suggests it, everyone should just say, "No, you're wrong."

BOE...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-08-2017, 05:29 PM
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Posted By rogo
Sure, some of the equipment / ecosystem is the...

Sure, some of the equipment / ecosystem is the same or really similar. The glass sheet handlers, perhaps some litho stuff. Is it a ton of savings? No, but we could be talking millions.


They were...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-08-2017, 01:13 AM
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Posted By rogo
I'm inclined to like the diversity of sizes...

I'm inclined to like the diversity of sizes offered by 10G more, with the older capacity being dedicated to existing sizes and costs driven down mostly by yield. They could -- over time -- move 65s...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-07-2017, 11:32 PM
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Posted By rogo
Sorry, but the reason for the "I told you so" on...

Sorry, but the reason for the "I told you so" on this is because some people seem to think there's no difference between uninformed speculation and informed speculation. And I personally like to draw...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-06-2017, 04:03 PM
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Posted By rogo
Some of us never believed it was about that...

Some of us never believed it was about that :rolleyes:
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-06-2017, 01:07 AM
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Posted By rogo
I'll bet $1000 on something reasonably...

I'll bet $1000 on something reasonably constructed as a wager.
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-04-2017, 12:05 AM
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Posted By rogo
I'm somewhat disappointed at that start price....

I'm somewhat disappointed at that start price. $4000 seems like a major step backwards.

If the old stuff stays in channel until a price cut, it's less harmful. But we should be clear, the only...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-03-2017, 01:14 AM
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Posted By rogo
I really don't want the OLED Technology...

I really don't want the OLED Technology Advancements thread to be about

1) LCD
2) People chiming on their personal opinions about what technology is good without adding something significant
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   01-30-2017, 02:12 PM
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Posted By rogo
I had an argument with one about Camus, Kant and...

I had an argument with one about Camus, Kant and Kierkegaard just the other day.

Hard to say it didn't have depth.
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   01-30-2017, 02:10 PM
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Posted By rogo
I'm beginning to wonder what the marginal savings...

I'm beginning to wonder what the marginal savings are there. No one is realistically talking about roll-to-roll even with printing (or at least that chorus has gone so sotto voce it's become...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   01-29-2017, 05:03 PM
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Posted By rogo
Lots of bawlers here. Fewer ballers.

Lots of bawlers here.

Fewer ballers.
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   01-29-2017, 01:02 AM
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Posted By rogo
Thing that doesn't exist has amazing spsec! ...

Thing that doesn't exist has amazing spsec!



See, I agree AVSers are more likely to view new formats than the general public -- by far.

But:

1) Even here, 4K isn't majority owned
2) Even...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   01-28-2017, 01:27 AM
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Posted By rogo
Good points. Fair point on the...

Good points.



Fair point on the difference between Dolby Vision and HDR10.



This also may be true. The points about bandwidth especially. The gain, on the other hand, I dunno.
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   01-27-2017, 12:56 PM
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Posted By rogo
1) UHD BluRay will never "take over" anything. ...

1) UHD BluRay will never "take over" anything.

2) 4K content will not dominate 1080 content for at least a decade.

3) HDR content will not dominate SDR content before 2030.

4) Most people...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   01-27-2017, 12:49 PM
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Posted By rogo
We're not close to have the border tax or a...

We're not close to have the border tax or a tariff.

And the congressional proposal isn't a tariff, but rather a convoluted change that ostensibly would raise the price of foreign goods by 20% but...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   01-27-2017, 12:44 PM
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Posted By rogo
Probably depends on the nature of defects. Many...

Probably depends on the nature of defects. Many things would seem pretty impossible to repair, others might be realistic.
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   01-26-2017, 11:58 PM
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Posted By rogo
This thread demonstrates people don't even know...

This thread demonstrates people don't even know what HDR is. Yet people on AVS are sure everyone is going to demand it.

:D:D:D:D:D
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