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Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   08-26-2014, 10:53 PM
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Posted By batpig
Well the 4520 already has multiple sub EQ, so no...

Well the 4520 already has multiple sub EQ, so no difference with the new models.

Atmos is obviously the biggest change. The other meaningful changes are ancillary features like wifi, Bluetooth,...
Forum: Subwoofers, Bass, and Transducers   08-26-2014, 08:51 PM
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Posted By batpig
You need output in a room of your volume. A port...

You need output in a room of your volume. A port allows for "cheap" extra output over a comparably priced sealed sub, so I would say so. It's not hard and fast -- I'm sure there are some awesome...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   08-26-2014, 05:46 PM
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Posted By batpig
good find, Ray. As an FYI, I immediately...

good find, Ray. As an FYI, I immediately attempted to change the URL to "x4100w" and it worked, allowing me to access the product page for the X4100w: http://manuals.denon.com/avrx4100w/na/en/

My...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   08-26-2014, 04:59 PM
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Posted By batpig
They covered it above -- if you are just looking...

They covered it above -- if you are just looking for a player to spin Blu-rays and bitstream audio to your receiver there isn't much value proposition there. I have a cheap Panasonic BDP that I got...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   08-26-2014, 04:51 PM
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Posted By batpig
Forgive me, I don't speak French, but (according...

Forgive me, I don't speak French, but (according to google) the translation I am seeing for your quote only refers to the number of pre-outs. The fact that there are 13.2 pre-outs is NOT proof that...
Forum: Speakers   08-26-2014, 04:47 PM
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Posted By batpig
It's not surprising that over time they would...

It's not surprising that over time they would make small changes to the production. You'd have to imagine, considering their zombie-like afterlife since being discontinued, that Klipsch/Audiovox has...
Forum: Subwoofers, Bass, and Transducers   08-26-2014, 04:28 PM
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Posted By batpig
As an owner of the same sub, you are going to...

As an owner of the same sub, you are going to have a difficult time getting better performance, with equal aesthetics/WAF, for a decent price WITHOUT increasing the size considerably. As you know,...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   08-26-2014, 02:50 PM
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Posted By batpig
As far as I know it has NOT been confirmed. I've...

As far as I know it has NOT been confirmed. I've seen WSE repeat the same thing in the Atmos thread but I have yet to see any evidence to support this.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   08-26-2014, 02:30 PM
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Posted By batpig
Are you talking about decoding as in a digital...

Are you talking about decoding as in a digital audio track (e.g. DTS Master 5.1)? If so, there is no difference in decoding capabilities between different processors, the decoding is standardized,...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   08-26-2014, 10:16 AM
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Posted By batpig
This is covered in the FAQ. There are two...

This is covered in the FAQ.

There are two basic guidelines that apply here:

1) you want "line of sight" from the microphone to the speaker. If the microphones line to the speaker is physically...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   08-26-2014, 09:40 AM
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Posted By batpig
In EVERY such implementation in the past, any D/M...

In EVERY such implementation in the past, any D/M product with Audyssey has had the ability to calibrate ALL the potential speaker connections. For example, the 3311CI which came out about five...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   08-26-2014, 09:31 AM
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Posted By batpig
I think a lot of people (not suprising on a...

I think a lot of people (not suprising on a borderline obsessive enthusiast forum) tend to overthink this stuff to the point where the "perfect becomes the enemy of the good". If you already have a...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   08-26-2014, 09:20 AM
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Posted By batpig
Minor correction -- these graphs on Denon/Marantz...

Minor correction -- these graphs on Denon/Marantz models show the (rough approximation of the) frequency response CORRECTION being applied. They aren't the "after" graphs, they show a crude version...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   08-26-2014, 09:03 AM
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Posted By batpig
To be clear: 1. At least as implemented in...

To be clear:

1. At least as implemented in upcoming Denons the wides work exactly the opposite of what Keith is saying: available for Atmos but NOT with DSU.

2. There is no arbitrary channel...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   08-26-2014, 08:59 AM
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Posted By batpig
Keith you are totally flipped around right now....

Keith you are totally flipped around right now. Take a deep breath before you post again, maybe you are still all worked up from that Audioholics article? :p
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   08-25-2014, 07:34 PM
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Posted By batpig
But we'd have to switch speaker configurations in...

But we'd have to switch speaker configurations in the setup menu depending on whether we want Atmos or Neo:x, right? Has anybody tried Atmos or DSU with the Top speakers in the Height...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   08-25-2014, 02:26 PM
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Posted By batpig
+1 -- Selden, I'm not sure what you're referring...

+1 -- Selden, I'm not sure what you're referring to exactly but from what we know right know the X5200 has the same capabilities (9 amps internal, 11ch max active, 13.2ch pre-outs) as the X7200 in...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   08-25-2014, 11:47 AM
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Posted By batpig
15 posts before yours (#5444...

15 posts before yours (#5444 (http://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-receivers-amps-processors/1574386-official-dolby-atmos-thread-home-theater-version-182.html#post26859345)) Glen Baumann asked the same...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   08-25-2014, 11:32 AM
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Posted By batpig
Interesting, hadn't noticed that. Considering...

Interesting, hadn't noticed that. Considering that the "View Terminal Config" option is accessed via the amp assign menu screen with all the sub options, I can only assume (hope?) that the output...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   08-25-2014, 11:02 AM
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Posted By batpig
No and no. 11ch max simultaneously. You can...

No and no. 11ch max simultaneously. You can hook up all 13 speakers but they won't be active at the same time.

At this point, no "consumer level" processor can do more than 11 channels...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   08-25-2014, 10:44 AM
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Posted By batpig
No, not at all. There are several discussions...

No, not at all. There are several discussions kind of interwoven here but the bottom line is that you aren't forced to use Dolby Atmos amp assign mode in order to have the availability of Dolby...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   08-25-2014, 10:36 AM
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Posted By batpig
Eric - check out my follow up (quoted below) in...

Eric - check out my follow up (quoted below) in which I corrected this notion. The 11ch max processing capability applies to MAIN ZONE only and use or non-use of the other zones doesn't impact it. ...
Forum: Subwoofers, Bass, and Transducers   08-25-2014, 09:42 AM
Replies: 86
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Posted By batpig
+1 -- this subwoofer (and its twin the Energy...

+1 -- this subwoofer (and its twin the Energy e:XL-S10) generally run $100 or less used, so spending money to fix it seems pointless. If you are a tinkerer and want to poke around by all means have...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   08-25-2014, 09:40 AM
Replies: 415
Views: 22,937
Posted By batpig
Right, it show channel output BY SURROUND MODE. ...

Right, it show channel output BY SURROUND MODE.

Not to belabor this, but that chart has no implication on the AMP ASSIGN settings which is what the original question is about. The fact that the...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   08-25-2014, 09:35 AM
Replies: 415
Views: 22,937
Posted By batpig
See my post above. I believe it may be possible...

See my post above. I believe it may be possible to use your 5ch amp for L/C/R/SL/SR by using the 11.1ch amp assign mode.

However, worst case you can use three channels for L/C/R and then two...
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