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Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-23-2014, 08:22 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
It's true that a feature, working or not, is...

It's true that a feature, working or not, is irrelevant to those who don't use that feature. But it is highly relevant to those who do. Just because a broken or poorly implemented feature doesn’t...
Forum: Speakers   07-23-2014, 07:22 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
I'm sure you are right. The Atmos speakers I...

I'm sure you are right. The Atmos speakers I heard were "prototypes". They didn't appear to be anything special but they could have been $5,000 each for all I know (I doubt they were but it's...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-23-2014, 07:16 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Of course the content is the most important...

Of course the content is the most important thing. But it is an apples/oranges comparison, in the context of this thread, to compare a non-Atmos movie with an Atmos movie IMO. I'd 100% agree that...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-23-2014, 07:12 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Comparison, with graphs. ...

Comparison, with graphs.


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Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-23-2014, 07:11 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
XT32 is still King IMO. And Pro certainly does no...

XT32 is still King IMO. And Pro certainly does no harm of course, but at $700 it doesn't seem all that good value to me. Mine cost me close on $1,000 with carriage to the UK and import taxes and, on...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-23-2014, 07:01 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
It's true but kinda irrelevant. The real...

It's true but kinda irrelevant. The real comparison would be how an Atmos version of Casablanca compared with an Atmos version of Transformers. Some would prefer one movie, some the other.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-23-2014, 07:00 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
I'm not holding off. I already made up my mind....

I'm not holding off. I already made up my mind. Denon for me when Atmos arrives.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-23-2014, 06:59 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Good point. Way OT....

Good point. Way OT....
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-23-2014, 06:57 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
True - but DBA is pretty specialised case, Igor,...

True - but DBA is pretty specialised case, Igor, I think. Beyond what Audyssey was ever intended to do.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-23-2014, 06:34 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Wow. Thanks for that. The comparison lower down...

Wow. Thanks for that. The comparison lower down the page with XT32 in the Denon is instructive. Just look at the difference XT32 makes compared with AccuEQ.

I'll reproduce below a couple of his...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-23-2014, 05:50 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Yes, I agree. It would be much better if Audyssey...

Yes, I agree. It would be much better if Audyssey measured the combined response of the mains and subs and took that into consideration. But for many, the Sub Distance Tweak is fairly easily done (so...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-23-2014, 05:47 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Another good point. But if the AVR is THX-spec...

Another good point. But if the AVR is THX-spec then it has THX Loudness Plus which can be used as a good alternative to DEQ.

It doesn't seem that a single mic position will give as good a...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-23-2014, 05:37 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Good point. Maybe one of the main review sites...

Good point. Maybe one of the main review sites like Audioholics will do just that?
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-23-2014, 05:17 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Well they can hardly not update the software if...

Well they can hardly not update the software if manufacturers (eg Denon) are advertising new 2015 models as 'Pro ready'. But adding capability for an additional AVR or two isn't by any means...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-23-2014, 05:15 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Very good service. It will be interesting to hear...

Very good service. It will be interesting to hear your views once you have heard AccuEQ and Audyssey. I still can’t see myself wanting to use EQ that doesn't EQ the front left and right speakers -...
Forum: Speakers   07-23-2014, 04:52 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
I honestly couldn’t hear anything I'd class as a...

I honestly couldn’t hear anything I'd class as a serious compromise. Yes, the physical speakers seemed to give slightly more precision to placement, but that could have been source-dependent, or...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-23-2014, 04:33 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
If you make any settings in the AVR which affect...

If you make any settings in the AVR which affect the subs - distance, levels etc - then they will be ignored and overwritten by Audyssey during the calibration. All that Sub-EQ HT does is measure the...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-23-2014, 04:25 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Where is your MV, typically, when watching a...

Where is your MV, typically, when watching a movie?
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-23-2014, 04:20 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Thanks Roger.

Thanks Roger.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-23-2014, 04:14 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
I agree with you, and my own noise floor at...

I agree with you, and my own noise floor at night, when I usually watch a movie, is about 35-40dB. But it goes back to my earlier point - if he is listening at levels so low that some of the...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-23-2014, 04:11 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
I've only got Bad Boys on DVD and it is a bit...

I've only got Bad Boys on DVD and it is a bit old. Some older movies did have problems with poor mixing I agree. But I did say 'modern' movies - OK BB is a modern movie... maybe I should have said...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-23-2014, 04:03 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
You want to use two Atmos modules for the top...

You want to use two Atmos modules for the top front and another two for the top height? Yes, of course you can do that. That would make a 7.1.4 system with the following array of speakers:



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Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-22-2014, 02:27 PM
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Posted By kbarnes701
The usual schtick with the Emovites is that if a...

The usual schtick with the Emovites is that if a unit doesn't do something, it is an unimportant thing that it doesn't do. And if something doesn't work the way one would expect, then it is "an...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-22-2014, 02:22 PM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Yeah - not many newcomers. I wonder if Pro is...

Yeah - not many newcomers. I wonder if Pro is fading away? Audyssey seem to have lost interest, although presumably (hopefully) they will be updating the software for the new crop of Pro-ready units...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-22-2014, 01:23 PM
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Posted By kbarnes701
I don't want to sound flippant, but you're...

I don't want to sound flippant, but you're listening with the volume turned down too low. That's why you struggle to hear dialog. When they mix the movie they assume it will be played at reference,...
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