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Forum: Display Calibration   10-01-2014, 01:21 PM
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Posted By fierce_gt
I don't know nothing about CMS's or color theory,...

I don't know nothing about CMS's or color theory, but I'm pretty familiar with triangles. and extending one vertex never reduces the area inside the triangle. so based on that, i'm not sure how...
Forum: Display Calibration   10-01-2014, 10:22 AM
Replies: 4,438
Views: 327,940
Posted By fierce_gt
it wouldn't read my usb sticks last I...

it wouldn't read my usb sticks last I tried(seriously, who uses FAT32 anymore??, terrible!). I think, it's been awhile. but I know there's a reason I didn't use the ps3 to begin with. cause my...
Forum: Official AVS Blu-ray Disc Reviews   10-01-2014, 10:06 AM
Replies: 1
Views: 166
Posted By fierce_gt
definitely enjoyed this movie, but it needs to be...

definitely enjoyed this movie, but it needs to be REALLY bad for me not to enjoy this type of movie. i'm a sucker for the rags to riches sports story.

the only problem I had, was as we were...
Forum: Display Calibration   10-01-2014, 08:45 AM
Replies: 4,438
Views: 327,940
Posted By fierce_gt
I'll run the hdmi2 input. not fixing what isn't...

I'll run the hdmi2 input. not fixing what isn't broke, until I know it's broke, haha.

plus, i'd like to see HOW it's off. just for interest.

now. what's the easiest way to run the avs...
Forum: Display Calibration   10-01-2014, 08:44 AM
Replies: 15
Views: 518
Posted By fierce_gt
unfortunately it doesn't. the cell light affects...

unfortunately it doesn't. the cell light affects a lot of things. if I do a calibration with cell light at 20, and then want to dim the screen and turn the cell light down, i'll need to do a full...
Forum: Display Calibration   10-01-2014, 08:36 AM
Replies: 4,438
Views: 327,940
Posted By fierce_gt
yeah, i'll see what happens if I ever figure out...

yeah, i'll see what happens if I ever figure out how to run these patterns off a different source.

to be honest though, if I get a brighter image, i'm going the wrong way, haha. I went through...
Forum: Plasma Flat Panel Displays   09-30-2014, 10:30 AM
Replies: 48
Views: 1,435
Posted By fierce_gt
in some ways they do. well, I don't see why...

in some ways they do. well, I don't see why anybody would ever WANT floating blacks(but I do understand ppl not caring if they are within reason).


Samsung does reduce the amount blacks float if...
Forum: Plasma Flat Panel Displays   09-30-2014, 10:23 AM
Replies: 43
Views: 803
Posted By fierce_gt
yeah, cause that's going to be easier to switch...

yeah, cause that's going to be easier to switch between a 30ftl and 50ftl setting... haha.


what you talk about with the bits seems to make sense. I know I can get much better results 'by the...
Forum: Plasma Flat Panel Displays   09-30-2014, 10:20 AM
Replies: 43
Views: 803
Posted By fierce_gt
personally, I don't really notice any negatives...

personally, I don't really notice any negatives to the floating blacks. with a meter, the darker the APL, the blacker the black. with my eyes, the darker the APL, the more I can notice the blacks.
...
Forum: Display Calibration   09-30-2014, 09:18 AM
Replies: 4,438
Views: 327,940
Posted By fierce_gt
thank you for this. but this confirms my...

thank you for this.


but this confirms my issue with color at 50 then. with color at 50, it's not possible for me to achieve 'acceptable' dE's. I'm sitting with values of 105% or higher, with...
Forum: Display Calibration   09-30-2014, 08:36 AM
Replies: 4,438
Views: 327,940
Posted By fierce_gt
I just tried this, I'm doing something wrong, I...

I just tried this, I'm doing something wrong, I must be, because this made things WAY worse. I have delta luminance's of more than +100% right now,


I could not get dE's less than 10 with color...
Forum: Plasma Flat Panel Displays   09-30-2014, 07:41 AM
Replies: 43
Views: 803
Posted By fierce_gt
unless it's something special, probably around...

unless it's something special, probably around 30ftl


I think it's pretty rare for a plasma to be accurate above 40ftl, until recently anyway(there's a few that pushed this in the last couple of...
Forum: Plasma Flat Panel Displays   09-30-2014, 07:36 AM
Replies: 43
Views: 803
Posted By fierce_gt
I LOVE options, even if they are options I...

I LOVE options, even if they are options I wouldn't normally use. but only if they don't get in the way of what matters most. ie, I don't mind that the Samsung has smart features and 3D, cause it...
Forum: Display Calibration   09-29-2014, 07:41 PM
Replies: 14
Views: 269
Posted By fierce_gt
now, as much as a wider gamut would be...

now, as much as a wider gamut would be nice(though that needs to be for both content and display), I still don't understand how a yellow subpixel can make a difference. I teach high school physics,...
Forum: Plasma Flat Panel Displays   09-29-2014, 07:32 PM
Replies: 43
Views: 803
Posted By fierce_gt
I thought it was worth an extra 1500 when I...

I thought it was worth an extra 1500 when I bought it...


so, yeah, I'd make that trade in a heart beat. I know if I didn't I'd always wonder if I should have, and regret it.
Forum: Plasma Flat Panel Displays   09-29-2014, 07:28 PM
Replies: 43
Views: 803
Posted By fierce_gt
it comes down to the fact that the F8500's...

it comes down to the fact that the F8500's strengths are actually becoming annoyances


the insane brightness of the f8500 is hard to tame. it's causing me some problems calibrating the tv at a...
Forum: Plasma Flat Panel Displays   09-29-2014, 07:18 PM
Replies: 43
Views: 803
Posted By fierce_gt
I know, hopefully most didn't. but it's still a...

I know, hopefully most didn't. but it's still a '$3000 tv' regardless of what price was negotiated. the msrp up here was 3800 when it first came out :eek:
Forum: Plasma Flat Panel Displays   09-29-2014, 03:45 PM
Replies: 43
Views: 803
Posted By fierce_gt
and like buying a 300hp car, you only get the...

and like buying a 300hp car, you only get the poor efficiency if you actually use that power. if you run the f8500 at lower contrast/cell light/eco mode, you can still get 30+ftl, and the power draw...
Forum: Plasma Flat Panel Displays   09-29-2014, 03:41 PM
Replies: 48
Views: 1,435
Posted By fierce_gt
^^if possible, I'd try to exchange it. it's worth...

^^if possible, I'd try to exchange it. it's worth the effort, imo
Forum: Theater Room Items & Accessories   09-29-2014, 03:36 PM
Replies: 16
Views: 301
Posted By fierce_gt
I would imagine the mounting holes should be...

I would imagine the mounting holes should be roughly centered. if the tv is 700mm tall, and uses a 400x400 pattern, then (700-400)/2= 150mm... chances are you'll have several inches to spare, so...
Forum: Theater Room Items & Accessories   09-29-2014, 03:33 PM
Replies: 16
Views: 301
Posted By fierce_gt
usually it's the max size they quote, it can be...

usually it's the max size they quote, it can be made smaller.


assuming the 800 part is horizontal(not sure why it wouldn't be) then there's no reason you couldn't slide the hanger pieces closer...
Forum: Display Calibration   09-29-2014, 09:29 AM
Replies: 15
Views: 518
Posted By fierce_gt
they don't wash out the image, it would decrease...

they don't wash out the image, it would decrease the luminance of the image though. this is the reason WHY I adjusted my contrast. my f8500 will display up to 255 no problem, but at 255 it's like 45...
Forum: Plasma Flat Panel Displays   09-29-2014, 08:16 AM
Replies: 43
Views: 803
Posted By fierce_gt
it seems to be MOSTLY the screen filter, and...

it seems to be MOSTLY the screen filter, and extra brightness that give the f8500 the advantage.

in a pitch black room, you may not notice much. in a bright room, the f8500 will have a clear...
Forum: Display Calibration   09-29-2014, 07:33 AM
Replies: 4,438
Views: 327,940
Posted By fierce_gt
I am using rec709(75%). or I did for that last...

I am using rec709(75%). or I did for that last one.

I was using the slides in the saturations folder, 75% red, 75% green, etc

the one thing i'm trying to remember though, is whether it asked...
Forum: Display Calibration   09-29-2014, 07:26 AM
Replies: 4,438
Views: 327,940
Posted By fierce_gt
well ok, that's more likely it, but doesn't get...

well ok, that's more likely it, but doesn't get me any closer to 'tighter' readings... when I put up the patterns, I do see the black optimizer doing it's thing, so the patterns are usually up for...
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