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Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   03-27-2017, 02:38 PM
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Posted By Chronoptimist
If it doesn't flicker and it doesn't dim the...

If it doesn't flicker and it doesn't dim the image, it's not BFI.

That doesn't mean these processes don't eventually trickle down into the consumer space.
I remember reading a paper some years...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   03-27-2017, 02:14 PM
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Posted By Chronoptimist
The Philips OLED doesn't have a BFI option. ...

The Philips OLED doesn't have a BFI option.

BFI is supposed to flicker. That's how it works.
The lack of flicker from modern TVs is why the motion resolution is so low.

My concern is if it...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-26-2017, 03:19 PM
Replies: 32
Views: 522
Posted By Chronoptimist
You should probably set it to use grayscale...

You should probably set it to use grayscale rendering instead of switching it off entirely.
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-26-2017, 05:27 AM
Replies: 32
Views: 522
Posted By Chronoptimist
Oh I missed the part where you said you were...

Oh I missed the part where you said you were using Edge before.
UWP applications (still) don't use subpixel rendering so you wouldn't get color fringing there.

Any other normal Windows...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-25-2017, 08:56 PM
Replies: 32
Views: 522
Posted By Chronoptimist
No, you can't specify WRGB since the display...

No, you can't specify WRGB since the display creates that on its own from an RGB (or YCC) signal.
The only thing is to hope that BGR works better than RGB, but ultimately the TV uses a non-standard...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-25-2017, 02:30 PM
Replies: 32
Views: 522
Posted By Chronoptimist
That "home" text looks like it could be the WRGB...

That "home" text looks like it could be the WRGB pixel structure causing this issue, as it's clearly using white subpixels surrounded by red/blue.
The other thing I would try is Windows' ClearType...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-24-2017, 06:08 AM
Replies: 55
Views: 2,382
Posted By Chronoptimist
That's not correct at all. If you process an...

That's not correct at all. If you process an 8-bit image in 8-bit, any changes you make are destructive and will introduce posterization/banding.
Internal precision needs to be kept as high as...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-10-2017, 01:40 AM
Replies: 492
Views: 17,604
Posted By Chronoptimist
I'm not sure how you think that RTINGS would be...

I'm not sure how you think that RTINGS would be able to measure ~6700:1 with an ANSI contrast pattern if it's not native.
If it was a full array local dimming set, that would be different, but...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-09-2017, 11:15 PM
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Views: 17,604
Posted By Chronoptimist
Yes, it's a problem that I've posted about...

Yes, it's a problem that I've posted about before.
LCD has limited color volume near black, while WOLED has limited color volume near white.
I don't care for edge-lit LCDs either....
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-09-2017, 10:39 PM
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Views: 17,604
Posted By Chronoptimist
And here I am just waiting for someone to put out...

And here I am just waiting for someone to put out a TV with good motion handling again.
LCDs have all that spare brightness and it's just going to waste when watching SDR content.


Samsung's...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-05-2017, 08:20 PM
Replies: 89
Views: 2,859
Posted By Chronoptimist
The JS9000 is not the best example since it...

The JS9000 is not the best example since it doesn't appear to strobe at the source refresh rate, causing the double-image problem.
Sony X850C 60 FPS source displayed using Sample and Hold:...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-04-2017, 11:22 AM
Replies: 89
Views: 2,859
Posted By Chronoptimist
It's amazing how hard people with OLEDs try to...

It's amazing how hard people with OLEDs try to spin their problems.
"Oh, it's not bad at X, it's so good that it makes X look bad."

I hear the same thing about highly compressed sources.
It's...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-03-2017, 10:55 PM
Replies: 89
Views: 2,859
Posted By Chronoptimist
Nothing yet, sadly. Higher refresh rate does...

Nothing yet, sadly.
Higher refresh rate does nothing to improve low framerate sources other than increasing the amount of interpolation which can be used.
120Hz Game Mode VRR will be nice for...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-02-2017, 09:28 PM
Replies: 51
Views: 1,454
Posted By Chronoptimist
Unless the DLP is actually out of focus, there's...

Unless the DLP is actually out of focus, there's nothing about them which should inherently reduce the visibility of artifacts. They still have hard-edged square pixels.
In fact some of the claims...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   01-31-2017, 10:23 PM
Replies: 51
Views: 1,454
Posted By Chronoptimist
Sounds like interpolation artifacts, and the...

Sounds like interpolation artifacts, and the interpolation can be disabled.
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   01-31-2017, 12:07 PM
Replies: 33
Views: 1,100
Posted By Chronoptimist
Have you tried 4:2:0? Does the actual game look...

Have you tried 4:2:0?
Does the actual game look like this, or only the menus? I seem to recall Deus Ex on the PS4 having an issue like that in the menus when they first patched in HDR support.
...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   01-28-2017, 10:16 AM
Replies: 1
Views: 70
Posted By Chronoptimist
Sounds like a bad HDMI cable.

Sounds like a bad HDMI cable.
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   01-24-2017, 05:59 AM
Replies: 13
Views: 566
Posted By Chronoptimist
I wouldn't be too concerned about it. It would...

I wouldn't be too concerned about it.
It would perhaps be a bit close if it was a 1080p native panel, but shouldn't be an issue with a 4K TV and the increased pixel density.

While I don't have a...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   01-22-2017, 10:54 AM
Replies: 459
Views: 14,428
Posted By Chronoptimist
HLG is a solution for broadcast where you want...

HLG is a solution for broadcast where you want one signal that can work with HDR and SDR displays, or when you want to be able to broadcast HDR footage live.
On a Blu-ray disc, and possibly...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   01-22-2017, 09:35 AM
Replies: 459
Views: 14,428
Posted By Chronoptimist
Really? Everyone I know that's been in the market...

Really? Everyone I know that's been in the market for a TV in the last year or so, or just walked past a showroom running HDR demos, has been absolutely blown away by them.
That includes people who...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   01-21-2017, 01:41 PM
Replies: 459
Views: 14,428
Posted By Chronoptimist
Thanks. I agree with your posts here too, and I...

Thanks. I agree with your posts here too, and I think that most of your points are correct even if it's not what I hope will happen.

However I do think - and hope - that you're wrong about HDR....
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   01-20-2017, 03:22 PM
Replies: 10
Views: 492
Posted By Chronoptimist
Disappointing latency result, but not unexpected...

Disappointing latency result, but not unexpected for Philips.
I would not have been surprised if it was over 100ms from them.

I still like the Ambilight concept for when you don't want to sit in...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   01-20-2017, 03:11 PM
Replies: 459
Views: 14,428
Posted By Chronoptimist
They are already more than bright enough for SDR...

They are already more than bright enough for SDR when operating as a sample-and-hold display.
If they can sustain 150 nits without the ABL taking effect, they are capable of exceeding the SDR spec...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   01-20-2017, 08:36 AM
Replies: 459
Views: 14,428
Posted By Chronoptimist
And I would rather have all the data available...

And I would rather have all the data available presented to me so that I can draw my own conclusions, instead of someone trying to suppress it or suggest that there's no need for improvement because...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   01-20-2017, 07:58 AM
Replies: 15
Views: 690
Posted By Chronoptimist
HDMI 2.1 added Game Mode VRR to the spec, so even...

HDMI 2.1 added Game Mode VRR to the spec, so even if DisplayPort Adaptive-Sync never happens, 4K120 Game Mode VRR will hopefully be a standard feature once displays start supporting HDMI 2.1...
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