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Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-25-2014, 03:29 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
I am very happy with FH+TM (FH are on the ceiling...

I am very happy with FH+TM (FH are on the ceiling at 42°). Initially I had the TM at 100° which put them slightly behind me (90° obviously being right overhead) but I moved them forward to 85° so...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-25-2014, 03:21 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Nice report, Bill. Welcome to the fun! (Have you...

Nice report, Bill. Welcome to the fun! (Have you made a picture showing the Atmos speaker setup yet, for your build thread?)
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-25-2014, 03:20 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Any news on that Amp Assign FAQ, bp? This seems...

Any news on that Amp Assign FAQ, bp? This seems to be the most confusing aspect of setup. I still don't fully 'get' the setup requirements when using a combination of external and internal amps, for...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-25-2014, 03:13 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Hahaha. Go(o)d catch!

Hahaha. Go(o)d catch!
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-25-2014, 03:11 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
This is the conclusion I have now arrived at,...

This is the conclusion I have now arrived at, after considering the various comments in the thread. So the next test will be with FH_TM vs TF+TR and all the speakers playing, but as I just said, it's...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-25-2014, 03:05 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
We ought to have a gambling thread :) I'd bet...

We ought to have a gambling thread :) I'd bet that this isn't going to happen.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-25-2014, 03:04 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
I love both The Illusionist and The Prestige, but...

I love both The Illusionist and The Prestige, but apart from both featuring conjurers I can’t see much connection between them TBH. Maybe a coincidence that two 'magic act' movies were released at...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-25-2014, 03:02 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
If current AVRs had positional rendering, knowing...

If current AVRs had positional rendering, knowing the exact locations of each speaker, then speaker placement wouldn’t be quite so critical as it is now, where the renderer has to assume that the...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-25-2014, 03:00 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
I'll try to do the test again but this time with...

I'll try to do the test again but this time with all the speakers playing and see if I can hear any, or much, difference. It's not easy because all the faffing about needed to change the configs...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-25-2014, 02:58 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
You're welcome, and I agree.

You're welcome, and I agree.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-25-2014, 02:56 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
The test was to determine if different content...

The test was to determine if different content was sent to the speakers when the speaker config changed. Your point hasn't been missed but it isn’t relevant to the discussion.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-25-2014, 02:54 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
How does moving a speaker change the content that...

How does moving a speaker change the content that is sent to it by the AVR?
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-24-2014, 11:57 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
The content won’t change because you move the...

The content won’t change because you move the speaker! The imaging might, but I wasn't testing that.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-24-2014, 11:32 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Correct. The test was to determine if the...

Correct. The test was to determine if the different configs used different content. They don't.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-24-2014, 11:32 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
It is. If you buy TF4 in Atmos and play it on old...

It is. If you buy TF4 in Atmos and play it on old gear, you get the 7.1 track.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-24-2014, 11:31 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Of those I've only seen Armageddon and Dredd. But...

Of those I've only seen Armageddon and Dredd. But they do look very similar from their IMDB synopses. Weird isn't it?
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-24-2014, 10:36 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Time stamp is 00.00 :) It's the first scene in...

Time stamp is 00.00 :) It's the first scene in the movie - with the titles over it.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-24-2014, 10:32 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
It isn’t Denon that is doing it. It is the...

It isn’t Denon that is doing it. It is the taxation policy of the country where the unit is sold. In the UK we pay much higher prices for AV gear than they pay in the USA - there are import duties...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-24-2014, 10:10 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
While I agree with batpig that TF4 is very busy,...

While I agree with batpig that TF4 is very busy, the opening scene isn't. I couldn't discern any real audible difference there either. This scene has space vehicles traveling from back to front, one...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-24-2014, 10:06 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Excellent analysis. It wasn't meant to be a...

Excellent analysis. It wasn't meant to be a thorough test of course - I just wanted to see if the content was very different with the different configs and clearly it isn't. That doesn't preclude...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-24-2014, 09:11 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Hahaha. Amazing that two movies with almost...

Hahaha. Amazing that two movies with almost identical themes can get made at the same time like that.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-24-2014, 08:52 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Good analysis. Only problem I see is that both FH...

Good analysis. Only problem I see is that both FH and TF can legitimately be at 45° (mine are at 42°), so where does that leave us?



Could be. And my room is small so there is not a huge...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-24-2014, 08:47 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Quite right. Whether you have 5.1 or 7.1 or 9.1,...

Quite right. Whether you have 5.1 or 7.1 or 9.1, the common factor is you have zero sound emanating from above. Adding 2 or 4 speakers above will improve all of those configurations.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-24-2014, 08:46 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Yes, that was a good result for me as I can only...

Yes, that was a good result for me as I can only have FH+TM if I want to stay in spec. I’d like to know what is really the difference though. I'll email my contact at Dolby and see if he can shed any...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-24-2014, 08:42 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
I'd expect that too but it just didn't seem like...

I'd expect that too but it just didn't seem like that in my tests. Of course, one thing that I didn't test is the different configs with all the other speakers playing. That might make a difference...
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