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Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-24-2014, 11:32 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Correct. The test was to determine if the...

Correct. The test was to determine if the different configs used different content. They don't.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-24-2014, 11:32 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
It is. If you buy TF4 in Atmos and play it on old...

It is. If you buy TF4 in Atmos and play it on old gear, you get the 7.1 track.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-24-2014, 11:31 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Of those I've only seen Armageddon and Dredd. But...

Of those I've only seen Armageddon and Dredd. But they do look very similar from their IMDB synopses. Weird isn't it?
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-24-2014, 10:36 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Time stamp is 00.00 :) It's the first scene in...

Time stamp is 00.00 :) It's the first scene in the movie - with the titles over it.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-24-2014, 10:32 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
It isn’t Denon that is doing it. It is the...

It isn’t Denon that is doing it. It is the taxation policy of the country where the unit is sold. In the UK we pay much higher prices for AV gear than they pay in the USA - there are import duties...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-24-2014, 10:10 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
While I agree with batpig that TF4 is very busy,...

While I agree with batpig that TF4 is very busy, the opening scene isn't. I couldn't discern any real audible difference there either. This scene has space vehicles traveling from back to front, one...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-24-2014, 10:06 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Excellent analysis. It wasn't meant to be a...

Excellent analysis. It wasn't meant to be a thorough test of course - I just wanted to see if the content was very different with the different configs and clearly it isn't. That doesn't preclude...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-24-2014, 09:11 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Hahaha. Amazing that two movies with almost...

Hahaha. Amazing that two movies with almost identical themes can get made at the same time like that.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-24-2014, 08:52 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Good analysis. Only problem I see is that both FH...

Good analysis. Only problem I see is that both FH and TF can legitimately be at 45° (mine are at 42°), so where does that leave us?



Could be. And my room is small so there is not a huge...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-24-2014, 08:47 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Quite right. Whether you have 5.1 or 7.1 or 9.1,...

Quite right. Whether you have 5.1 or 7.1 or 9.1, the common factor is you have zero sound emanating from above. Adding 2 or 4 speakers above will improve all of those configurations.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-24-2014, 08:46 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Yes, that was a good result for me as I can only...

Yes, that was a good result for me as I can only have FH+TM if I want to stay in spec. I’d like to know what is really the difference though. I'll email my contact at Dolby and see if he can shed any...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-24-2014, 08:42 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
I'd expect that too but it just didn't seem like...

I'd expect that too but it just didn't seem like that in my tests. Of course, one thing that I didn't test is the different configs with all the other speakers playing. That might make a difference...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-24-2014, 08:39 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Yep. I'd expect something is going on - but it so...

Yep. I'd expect something is going on - but it so subtle, here, that it seems to not matter.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-24-2014, 08:37 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
IMO, yes. (And in Roger's opinion too).

IMO, yes. (And in Roger's opinion too).
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-24-2014, 06:28 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Yes. Use the Denon's web interface to save...

Yes.

Use the Denon's web interface to save each configuration, then reload whichever one you want, at will. Each save and reload takes 10-15 minutes. It's a fairly painless process. I just...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-24-2014, 06:25 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
If the sound coming from the speakers is...

If the sound coming from the speakers is identical in each config, why would it make any difference where the speakers were located? The sole thing which could affect the sound we hear would be...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-24-2014, 05:58 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
The location of the speakers doesn't affect what...

The location of the speakers doesn't affect what sound comes out of them. They seemed to be playing the exact same sounds, in the exact same way regardless of their designation.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-24-2014, 05:57 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Exactly. Although my front overhead speaker, at...

Exactly. Although my front overhead speaker, at 42° can be either FH or TF. But I still expected some difference from two different configs (FH+TM and TF+TR).
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-24-2014, 05:54 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Thanks. Go on - jump right in - you'll like it!...

Thanks. Go on - jump right in - you'll like it! :)



All overhead speakers receive their own discrete content depending on the mix. Any combination of the 4 can make sound at any point,...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-24-2014, 05:51 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
It can't switch to a calibration you haven’t yet...

It can't switch to a calibration you haven’t yet done ;)



Yes, 5.2.4 is OK with the 4100 if you add a 2ch external amp. DSU will use all of your overhead speakers.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-24-2014, 05:11 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
DSU movie report. Another one for evaluation of...

DSU movie report. Another one for evaluation of DSU if anyone has the disc: Cowboys & Aliens. A less than brilliant movie considering the potential of the concept, but some terrific audio. Go to the...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-24-2014, 05:10 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Test of difference between FH+TM and TF+TR

As regular readers will know, I am using FH+TM because I cannot meet the angle spec for TR. The FH are designated as FH but are ceiling-mounted at 42°. The TM are at 85°. This puts both sets within...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-24-2014, 05:06 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
If you use different speaker layouts then...

If you use different speaker layouts then Audyssey will not have calibrated for those layouts so it disables itself until you recalibrate. This is, perhaps surprisingly, so even if you don't move the...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-24-2014, 04:43 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
I did wonder, Bill, why you'd bothered with the...

I did wonder, Bill, why you'd bothered with the K-Ball brackets. Just looking at them told me to avoid them myself ;) I find the included C bracket works perfectly and is easy to use. If you want to...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-24-2014, 02:01 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
No more room to add anything to my sig...

No more room to add anything to my sig unfortunately.
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