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Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-18-2014, 01:29 PM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Not sure what I'd be happy to pay for Auro....

Not sure what I'd be happy to pay for Auro. Certainly not 4 figures. I guess it will depend on content availability and how well Auro will play through my speaker setup, which is primarily designed...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-18-2014, 01:28 PM
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Yes, OK, 'gibberish' was too harsh, I concede....

Yes, OK, 'gibberish' was too harsh, I concede. But these subjective terms really don't help IMO - the more we can use properly defined terms the easier it is to get a handle on what we are talking...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-18-2014, 12:19 PM
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:) I was trying to give Emo a break... a Martian...

:) I was trying to give Emo a break... a Martian day is about 40 minutes longer than an Earth day IIRC, depending how you measure it, so 60 Martian days would be about 62 Earth days ;) But you are...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-18-2014, 12:15 PM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Weight, heftiness and authority are the words...

Weight, heftiness and authority are the words that audiofool reviewers use. Acoustics and sound reproduction are sciences, so the characteristics of the various elements which make up those sciences...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-18-2014, 12:10 PM
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Posted By kbarnes701
As you jumped in, maybe you can explain what the...

As you jumped in, maybe you can explain what the 'weight' of bass is. How is bass 'weighed'?
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-18-2014, 12:09 PM
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Posted By kbarnes701
No. We are talking about so-called 'timbre...

No. We are talking about so-called 'timbre matching' and its value in an EQd system wrt to the surrounds. The discussion is being dragged into other areas such as ludicrous combinations of LCR...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-18-2014, 12:06 PM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Well any upmixer is venturing into preference...

Well any upmixer is venturing into preference land, so it will be a personal choice thing, and for people who want to use their Wide speakers, then DSU is not going to be good for them so they will...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-18-2014, 12:03 PM
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Posted By kbarnes701
That's it. Designate your forward pair as Front...

That's it. Designate your forward pair as Front Height (30-45°) and your rearmost pair as Top Middle (65-100°) and you are good to go.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-18-2014, 12:00 PM
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Posted By kbarnes701
So you used to boost the subs by +3dB. Why can...

So you used to boost the subs by +3dB. Why can you not boost the subs by 3dB now? There is no reason to have the trim set to 0dB - it doesn't achieve anything per se - it's just another number on...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-18-2014, 11:53 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Fair enough and that is exactly how I am doing...

Fair enough and that is exactly how I am doing it, and for the reasons you mention. It just threw me a bit when I read the 'additional requirement' in the WP of that 1/8th distance thing.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-18-2014, 11:33 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
There was more bass output from one, but it...

There was more bass output from one, but it didn’t show up in the measurements?????

What does the 'weight' of bass mean?
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-18-2014, 11:29 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
I agree with your preliminary evaluation - LOL :)

I agree with your preliminary evaluation - LOL :)
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-18-2014, 11:26 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
What would be this thing that we can hear but are...

What would be this thing that we can hear but are unable to measure?



Have you ever turned off all your speakers and subs and just listened to the surrounds and what work they are actually...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-18-2014, 09:58 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Which never happened of course. Which...

Which never happened of course.



Which now, it seems, might never happen.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-18-2014, 09:57 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
That is par for the course there. You were lucky...

That is par for the course there. You were lucky you weren't banned.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-18-2014, 09:55 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Laufman didn't say 60 "business days". He said...

Laufman didn't say 60 "business days". He said "60 days or less". Q:"when will Dirac be ready?". A: "60 days or less from now". Weaseling 60 "business days" into it is just another Emo-apologist...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-18-2014, 09:47 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
You don't think Emo would have established...

You don't think Emo would have established whether the upgrade might not happen before they posted that it would definitely happen "in 60 days or less"?
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-18-2014, 09:45 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
If they meet the 30th September revised deadline,...

If they meet the 30th September revised deadline, that would be great news. We'll soon know.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-18-2014, 09:43 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
I doubt it. Even if they are not under NDA wrt to...

I doubt it. Even if they are not under NDA wrt to that, I wouldn’t expect they'd want to get involved or to comment on a partner's hardware.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-18-2014, 09:39 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
The same as the 5308 I'd expect.

The same as the 5308 I'd expect.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-18-2014, 09:38 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
What do you make of the assertion in the Dolby...

What do you make of the assertion in the Dolby Installer WP that Front Heights, if (not ideally) mounted on the ceiling, should be no more than 1/8th the distance between the front wall and the...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-18-2014, 09:29 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Why would he even need a listening test to see if...

Why would he even need a listening test to see if the speakers had a similar FR? The chart would show whether they did or didn't. In cases like that, the listening test is there to evaluate the...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-18-2014, 08:15 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Yep. Sensible observations. But Emo doesn’t seem...

Yep. Sensible observations. But Emo doesn’t seem to operate on the basis of transparency any more. So you get disinformation, misinformation, economy with the truth, plain deceit and everything in...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-18-2014, 08:09 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
OK, I hear you. Thing is though, IIRC, Emo did...

OK, I hear you. Thing is though, IIRC, Emo did float the idea of a $100 update to Dirac. I ass-u-me they had discussed that with Dirac first.

If now you are saying that Dirac might not want to...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-18-2014, 08:04 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
While I agree entirely with you about human bias,...

While I agree entirely with you about human bias, IIRC DS-21 said he took measurements which showed that he had similar responses from all speakers. There's no need for a DBT when measurements are...
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