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Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   12-26-2014, 03:50 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Yes but the point is that because of the lack of...

Yes but the point is that because of the lack of attempt to eliminate subconscious human bias (eg not level matching to ±0.5dB, not having instantaneous switching, knowing which unit was playing and...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   12-26-2014, 03:37 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
It's probably psychological or an error induced...

It's probably psychological or an error induced by the lack of stringency in your evaluation process (eg failing to level match the two units to ±0.5dB, or failing to have instantaneous switching...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   12-26-2014, 03:30 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
That surprises me as I don't usually find any...

That surprises me as I don't usually find any problems with production sound on most movies I watch.



Again, I don't really subscribe to the idea that you are able to hear unintended...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   12-26-2014, 03:26 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
I think you may be still missing the point Scott...

I think you may be still missing the point Scott and I were making. We don't expect to find just music in the rears any more. We expect to find full range sounds there. Obviously most of the action...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   12-26-2014, 03:22 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
You can get RCA pads too. EG:...

You can get RCA pads too.

EG: http://www.parts-express.com/harrison-labs-12-db-rca-line-level-audio-attenuator-pair--266-244
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   12-26-2014, 03:17 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Why? If you didn't like it, you could always...

Why? If you didn't like it, you could always turn it off. With Onkyo now, those who did like it don't have the option. That is a backward step. It is better to have a feature that you can choose to...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   12-25-2014, 03:58 PM
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Posted By kbarnes701
That is a good point, but I almost always use...

That is a good point, but I almost always use just one setting of the MV: -5dB for almost every movie I watch, so the need to make allowances for our hearing is much less with me than perhaps with...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   12-25-2014, 03:54 PM
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Posted By kbarnes701
The big benefit of Denon and Marantz Atmos AVRs...

The big benefit of Denon and Marantz Atmos AVRs is that they come with Audyssey XT32 room correction, which is a big step up from Onkyo's AccuEQ.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   12-25-2014, 03:52 PM
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Posted By kbarnes701
I'm afraid if you want 5.1.4 you will have to buy...

I'm afraid if you want 5.1.4 you will have to buy a new AVR - the Denon X4100 is a good choice - a 7 channel unit which can be expanded to 5.1.4 with the addition of a separate 2 channel amp, such as...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   12-25-2014, 03:50 PM
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Posted By kbarnes701
I'm not quite sure what you are asking, but if I...

I'm not quite sure what you are asking, but if I am understanding you correctly, the answer is "no". The Onkyo 636 is a 7 channel Atmos unit without preouts for separate amplification. This means it...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   12-25-2014, 03:44 PM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Nice post, Charles. I especially agree with your...

Nice post, Charles. I especially agree with your remarks above.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   12-25-2014, 03:40 PM
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Posted By kbarnes701
I bet my room is smaller than yours and I have...

I bet my room is smaller than yours and I have 5.2.4 and it works just great. I wouldn't personally want to go to just 2 overheads.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   12-25-2014, 03:39 PM
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Posted By kbarnes701
I am not disagreeing with you, Igor. Just saying...

I am not disagreeing with you, Igor. Just saying that high sensitivity and good quality are not mutually exclusive. It is true that many high quality speakers are fairly insensitive, and that will be...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   12-25-2014, 03:33 PM
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Posted By kbarnes701
I agree. I don't think anyone is intending to...

I agree. I don't think anyone is intending to insult you or your work or your craft. Very many movies these days have surround mixes that are truly astonishing and delightful. Today I watched Alex...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   12-25-2014, 03:27 PM
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Posted By kbarnes701
I take your point about being taken out of the...

I take your point about being taken out of the movie, but I think that what Scott means by 'old school' is the way in which surround sound was used for decades just for 'ambient sound'. This was a...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   12-25-2014, 03:19 PM
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Posted By kbarnes701
I was confused by your assertion that the...

I was confused by your assertion that the production sound in the movie would be "reflected off the walls". Often there won't be any walls, as on a typical set, and even on location, great care will...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   12-24-2014, 12:04 PM
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Posted By kbarnes701
IDK if they would be better for Atmos. Why do you...

IDK if they would be better for Atmos. Why do you think they would? If they sound 'tinny' then they are probably not much good for anything, Atmos included. I use Tannoy Di5 DC for my on-ceilings...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   12-24-2014, 10:11 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Personally I wouldn’t be happy with a 250Hz XO....

Personally I wouldn’t be happy with a 250Hz XO. It is higher than my subs will perform well at (dual Submersive F2) and I'd expect to be able to localise the bass pretty easily at 250Hz. I wonder...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   12-24-2014, 10:04 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Depending on how high they currently are, you may...

Depending on how high they currently are, you may well find an improvement by lowering them to ear height, or just above ear height if the former blocks the sound to any individual listener. The...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   12-24-2014, 06:37 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Yes, in the UK it was promoted as that. I guess...

Yes, in the UK it was promoted as that. I guess they figured the crappy original title, which makes it sound like a romcom, was probably the reason the box office sales were less than spectacular in...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   12-24-2014, 04:13 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
The usual issue when Audyssey boosts unexpectedly...

The usual issue when Audyssey boosts unexpectedly is that something was conspiring to prevent the mic from properly hearing the affected frequencies, so Audyssey boosts to compensate. Is there...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   12-24-2014, 03:38 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Thank you for that detailed reply, which answered...

Thank you for that detailed reply, which answered all my questions. Enjoy your vacation!
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   12-24-2014, 03:32 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Nice ad copy too. Makes a change from a fatuous...

Nice ad copy too. Makes a change from a fatuous headline and an attempt at a 'glamourous' picture.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   12-24-2014, 03:30 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
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Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   12-24-2014, 03:27 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Very true. People often buy speakers by the...

Very true. People often buy speakers by the dollar and amplifiers by the pound. Both criteria mean very little in terms of performance. Toole evaluated various very expensive speakers in his book,...
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