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Forum: Community News & Polls   08-08-2014, 05:57 PM
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Posted By JohnAV
Being this is the AVSforums, I am not surprised...

Being this is the AVSforums, I am not surprised that "Most people listen to music on headphones" is not significantly higher percentage.

A lot of people who never heard of this forum go through...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   08-08-2014, 12:05 PM
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Views: 160,888
Posted By JohnAV
Your the one that had to throw out the up to 34...

Your the one that had to throw out the up to 34 outputs comment, which wasn't relevant to my original comment which is that Dolby surround is a vague term that has been around for quite awhile.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   08-08-2014, 11:57 AM
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Posted By JohnAV
That's my thoughts also, it tends to confuse...

That's my thoughts also, it tends to confuse people when you just refer to it as Dolby surround.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   08-08-2014, 11:54 AM
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Posted By JohnAV
Excuse the pun, but there is always marketing in...

Excuse the pun, but there is always marketing in the mix of advertising new technology. :D
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   08-08-2014, 11:23 AM
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Posted By JohnAV
You forgot to improve/change out your expensive...

You forgot to improve/change out your expensive speakers along with placing more importance on a little bit of carefully timed reverb off your ceilings or by using ceiling speakers instead.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   08-08-2014, 11:20 AM
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Posted By JohnAV
Now why would most people care about scale/upmix...

Now why would most people care about scale/upmix legacy sources to up to 34 outputs? The best you can do with a Atmos at this time is use a AVR with 13.2 pre-outputs, internally it is 9.2. Probably...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   08-08-2014, 11:06 AM
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Posted By JohnAV
Sure they "want" to give impression that Atmos...

Sure they "want" to give impression that Atmos upmixing will be "better" than PLIIx/z. Whether it is or not much better sounding with a wide mix of a Atmos soundtracks, have to wait and see people...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   08-08-2014, 10:56 AM
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Posted By JohnAV
Keith they specifically write it up as "Dolby...

Keith they specifically write it up as "Dolby surround upmixer" in the white paper to explain how things work. Where on Dolby site and on their documentation do they identify it as "Dolby Surround"...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   08-08-2014, 09:21 AM
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Views: 160,888
Posted By JohnAV
Most likely that amp section is a lot more robust...

Most likely that amp section is a lot more robust even if it is spec'ed 10 watts more a channel, along with 32 bit version of Dynamic Discrete Surround Circuit, D.D.S.C-HD with AL32 Processing Plus,...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   08-07-2014, 06:01 PM
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Views: 160,888
Posted By JohnAV
The x7200 is the 4520 replacement not the x5200,...

The x7200 is the 4520 replacement not the x5200, just a FYI. It might be you suggesting a lower priced Denon AVR to compensate for selling the 4520 might bring, but then you won't have the 32 bits...
Forum: Latest Industry News   08-07-2014, 05:15 PM
Replies: 206
Views: 7,312
Posted By JohnAV
Bah, need 2160P media! ;)

Bah, need 2160P media! ;)
Forum: Latest Industry News   08-07-2014, 01:14 PM
Replies: 206
Views: 7,312
Posted By JohnAV
Yeah quantum leap, just like how 3D videos were...

Yeah quantum leap, just like how 3D videos were suppose to be so superior. Nothing wrong with a AVSforum member being skeptical at this time given the expense involved, appreciable gains involved...
Forum: Latest Industry News   08-07-2014, 12:40 PM
Replies: 206
Views: 7,312
Posted By JohnAV
That's the part I don't see coming anytime soon. ...

That's the part I don't see coming anytime soon. A 9.2 AVR/AMP with 13.2 ch pre-out is about the most at this time. Complexity wise I don't see anything getting above that without getting terribly...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   08-06-2014, 11:09 PM
Replies: 4,822
Views: 160,888
Posted By JohnAV
Consumers IMHO have learned to be prudent with...

Consumers IMHO have learned to be prudent with new technology, first with 3D, currently with 4K. So while replicating Atmos theater effects in one's home theater might be a desirable goal, usually...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   08-06-2014, 02:59 PM
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Views: 160,888
Posted By JohnAV
That's up to the studios to decide if there is...

That's up to the studios to decide if there is incentive enough to offer BD's with these soundtracks. Your a optimist, but there is no definite answer yet to how this will play out for consumers.
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Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   08-06-2014, 02:30 PM
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Views: 160,888
Posted By JohnAV
If you didn't already know. :D World English...

If you didn't already know. :D
World English Dictionary
atmo- — combining form
air or vapour: atmometer ; atmosphere [via New Latin from Greek atmos vapour]
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   08-05-2014, 10:25 PM
Replies: 4,822
Views: 160,888
Posted By JohnAV
Yeah we know that they spent a lot of money...

Yeah we know that they spent a lot of money launching Atmos for the theatrical market, but the home marketplace is quite different. Consumers are inherently scotch when it comes to selecting a home...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   08-05-2014, 05:47 PM
Replies: 4,822
Views: 160,888
Posted By JohnAV
Doing a Atmos mix for a theater release makes...

Doing a Atmos mix for a theater release makes sense, but practicality aside, whats in it for the studios to produce BD's that support Atmos nevermind if it is easy or cheap?

How many consumers...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   08-05-2014, 12:20 PM
Replies: 4,822
Views: 160,888
Posted By JohnAV
You know given the comments about the small...

You know given the comments about the small number of 7.1 BD releases tied with the lack of consumer knowledge against Atmos probably doesn't inspire studios to provide home theater fans any BD's...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-31-2014, 05:32 PM
Replies: 9,054
Views: 553,509
Posted By JohnAV
On that note, if you are using powered...

On that note, if you are using powered subwoofers, then you no longer using the 4520 CI to reproduce that bass heavy reproduction.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-28-2014, 12:00 PM
Replies: 247
Views: 14,601
Posted By JohnAV
Very true. I like the fact that Denon in these...

Very true. I like the fact that Denon in these 2104 models appears very progressive, but study the literature and there is no mention of HDCP specifics. Are we not surprised! :eek::D

BTW whatever...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-28-2014, 11:09 AM
Replies: 247
Views: 14,601
Posted By JohnAV
The thread is focused on Denon, not what odd step...

The thread is focused on Denon, not what odd step child Onkyo/Integra provides. :p
Silicon Image has port interfaces that support HDCP 2.2 now. Last September they announced SiI9679 MHL 3.0...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-27-2014, 08:46 PM
Replies: 9,054
Views: 553,509
Posted By JohnAV
No big loss, figure you don't want to mess with...

No big loss, figure you don't want to mess with initial implementations anyway, it always improves with the next model, just look at how HDMI interfaces and DSP usage has evolved with each new model....
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-27-2014, 05:45 PM
Replies: 247
Views: 14,601
Posted By JohnAV
There are a limited number of HDMI 2.0 chiset...

There are a limited number of HDMI 2.0 chiset manufacturers and all of them appear to impliment HDCP 2.2 chipsets.

Denon and other manufacturers aren't obliged to declare what version of HDCP...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-27-2014, 02:17 PM
Replies: 247
Views: 14,601
Posted By JohnAV
You would get you the most bang for the buck,...

You would get you the most bang for the buck, would be the the improved sound/music quality from using Audyssey MultiEQ XT32 which the x4000 on up would offer. Batpig is very happy with his x4000 it...
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