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Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-16-2014, 05:06 PM
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Posted By batpig
No, the TrueHD track is 5.1. There is also a 6.1...

No, the TrueHD track is 5.1. There is also a 6.1 DTS-ES track but it's lossy.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-16-2014, 04:56 PM
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Posted By batpig
Yes, I'm using the Denon X5200W. And, yes, I...

Yes, I'm using the Denon X5200W. And, yes, I could boost the volume of the heights. I'm not going to try that quite yet because I like to test things at "reference" without tweaking the calibrated...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-16-2014, 04:21 PM
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Posted By batpig
I also submitted a question to Vudu support,...

I also submitted a question to Vudu support, we'll see what they say. It will be fun to compare notes and see if the typical clueless CSR is going to give us the same answer, or (more likely)...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-16-2014, 04:14 PM
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Posted By batpig
Raybo - Just so you are clear, the X5200 can...

Raybo - Just so you are clear, the X5200 can connect and calibrate a 13ch setup but it can only run 11 channels at once. So with your proposed setup, the wides would be silent with any Atmos content...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-16-2014, 04:07 PM
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Posted By batpig
I posted some pics and thoughts here:...

I posted some pics and thoughts here: http://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-receivers-amps-processors/1616010-official-2014-denon-atmos-xt32-model-thread-x4100-x5200-x7200-30.html#post27397154

I'm...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-16-2014, 02:40 PM
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Posted By batpig
+1 -- the whole Dolby Atmos thing is brand new...

+1 -- the whole Dolby Atmos thing is brand new and has added a lot of complexity to potential speaker layouts. This is largely uncharted waters and we here at AVS are pioneers in deciphering the...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-16-2014, 01:22 PM
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Posted By batpig
I don't understand. You can run a 7.1.4 setup...

I don't understand. You can run a 7.1.4 setup with the 2ch amp on the fronts and the rest with internal amps, I just confirmed this a few posts up. What "silly limitation" are you referring to?
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-16-2014, 01:10 PM
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Posted By batpig
Again, I would urge caution and NOT just assume...

Again, I would urge caution and NOT just assume that the currently available for purchase "digital exclusive" version of Transformers AoE has native Atmos content embedded within the DD+ stream.
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Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-16-2014, 01:05 PM
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Posted By batpig
It's possible. But remember that pretty much any...

It's possible. But remember that pretty much any "legacy" receiver will have, at most, 7.1ch multich inputs so that would limit it to a 5.1.2 Atmos setup.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-16-2014, 12:31 PM
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Posted By batpig
Correct. Audyssey = the "Reference" curve...

Correct.

Audyssey = the "Reference" curve with the high freq roll off built in

Flat = unmm, flat :p

(BTW - the movie/music distinction is nonsense and I never understood why Onkyo choose to...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-16-2014, 12:03 PM
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Posted By batpig
The press releases all stated that Vudu would be...

The press releases all stated that Vudu would be the first streaming partner to support Atmos but I think it's pretty big news if they have "scooped" the Sep 30 release date and we can hear the...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-16-2014, 11:54 AM
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Posted By batpig
1. When you boot up the remote app it will...

1. When you boot up the remote app it will present you with a screen asking which device you want to control. It will be obvious. From the web browser you would want to bookmark the unique IP...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-16-2014, 11:50 AM
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Posted By batpig
Wait just a minute -- just because the VUDU movie...

Wait just a minute -- just because the VUDU movie has DD+ as the audio option does NOT necessarily mean that it's the Atmos soundtrack! I think we would know if you could get the native Atmos track...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-16-2014, 10:51 AM
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Posted By batpig
Not a stupid question! Using an AVR as an...

Not a stupid question! Using an AVR as an amplifier is not necessarily straightforward because of the possibility of applying extra processing, the additional volume control etc.

The good news is...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-16-2014, 10:40 AM
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Posted By batpig
The Dolby guys have repeatedly said that precise...

The Dolby guys have repeatedly said that precise placement isn't really THAT important. Even the white papers specify a range of angles that will work for each speaker position. I think as long as...
Forum: Speakers   09-16-2014, 10:17 AM
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Posted By batpig
When I played around with the woofer on a pair of...

When I played around with the woofer on a pair of V2.1's I had, it appeared to just be clips, no solder. Here's a photo.

http://batpigworld.com/photos/Veritas%20Woofer%2001.JPG

BTW - I agree...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-16-2014, 10:05 AM
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Posted By batpig
Atmos cannot be added to older models via...

Atmos cannot be added to older models via firmware. It requires an enormous amount of processing power and the newer receivers that support it have more / newer DSP to enabled the processing.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-16-2014, 09:51 AM
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Posted By batpig
You would get 6 overhead speakers instead of 4. ...

You would get 6 overhead speakers instead of 4. I'm not sure I understand the question "what would I get"? Atmos for home specifies 10 (5 pairs) possible overhead speaker locations: Front Height,...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-16-2014, 09:47 AM
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Posted By batpig
Ideally, yes, Atmos speakers should be physically...

Ideally, yes, Atmos speakers should be physically on (or in) the ceiling so they can image ABOVE you. Front/Rear "Height" speakers high up on the walls are supported but aren't ideal. Now, of...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-16-2014, 09:00 AM
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Posted By batpig
1. Make sure the HDMI cable is plugged into the...

1. Make sure the HDMI cable is plugged into the input labeled "ARC" on both devices
2. Make sure HDMI Control is enabled on the receiver

Beyond that it's up to the tv settings. If you've done...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-16-2014, 07:26 AM
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Posted By batpig
Just to wrap up the conversation yesterday, I did...

Just to wrap up the conversation yesterday, I did some testing and the settings work as I surmised. The nice thing about this years models is how the GUI gives dynamic visual feedback as you change...
Forum: Speakers   09-15-2014, 09:13 PM
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Posted By batpig
You might have missed my post in the other thread...

You might have missed my post in the other thread but I linked a few Veritas ads on local craigslists in SoCal. There's a pair of 2.3i in Chino for a reasonable price too.

The flaw has to do with...
Forum: Speakers   09-15-2014, 09:08 PM
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Posted By batpig
Assuming you have a good sub to fill in, one...

Assuming you have a good sub to fill in, one thing you can do is swap a bad woofer for a good from the other V2.3 and run them each with one good woofer. They will obviously be a bit bash shy and...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-15-2014, 05:33 PM
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Posted By batpig
I hope you are right and that's what they are...

I hope you are right and that's what they are referring to. It is definitely correct that using the more cookie cutter "Dolby Atmos" amp assign mode you are severely limited in terms of how you can...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-15-2014, 05:31 PM
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Posted By batpig
More specifically, since you asked about the REAR...

More specifically, since you asked about the REAR ceiling speakers, they will ONLY make noise with Dolby Surround upmixer. The other upmixers (DTS Neo:X and Audyssey DSX) can only mix to the FRONT...
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