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Forum: Digital Hi-End Projectors - $3,000+ USD MSRP   01-30-2017, 10:51 AM
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Posted By Cine4Home
The difference is with JVC that you can just...

The difference is with JVC that you can just reduce gains in the RGB-menus, not rise them. So the preset has to max out the limiting Color by itself at "0". And sometimes the 6500k preset just does...
Forum: Digital Hi-End Projectors - $3,000+ USD MSRP   01-30-2017, 10:45 AM
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Posted By Cine4Home
Sometimes they do, often they do not. In our...

Sometimes they do, often they do not.
In our case, they did not. And we did not sacrifice any BT709 accuracy either.


That is all old news, it is like that with JVC projectors for many years...
Forum: Digital Hi-End Projectors - $3,000+ USD MSRP   01-30-2017, 09:35 AM
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Posted By Cine4Home
Yes, it is much better regarding noise, that is...

Yes, it is much better regarding noise, that is true.
But not 100% free.

Regards,
Ekki
Forum: Digital Hi-End Projectors - $3,000+ USD MSRP   01-30-2017, 08:57 AM
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Posted By Cine4Home
Software... and it is too early to tell if it is...

Software... and it is too early to tell if it is really improved because you still have to make a compromise between black floor and shadow detail.
Forum: Digital Hi-End Projectors - $3,000+ USD MSRP   01-30-2017, 08:39 AM
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Posted By Cine4Home
HDR Black floor ootb is indeed better but with...

HDR Black floor ootb is indeed better but with missing shadow detail. I will find out on friday what the best compromise will be for that matter.

Auto Iris is still not working with HDR.
...
Forum: Digital Hi-End Projectors - $3,000+ USD MSRP   01-30-2017, 08:00 AM
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Posted By Cine4Home
I second that. We have measured a couple of...

I second that.

We have measured a couple of X7500 already and they all show the same range of brightness & contrast as the X7000 did already. No difference in optical sharpness either.
...
Forum: Digital Hi-End Projectors - $3,000+ USD MSRP   01-30-2017, 07:30 AM
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Posted By Cine4Home
I 100% agree. Heck, we are talking about a...

I 100% agree.

Heck, we are talking about a €35,000.- Euro projector which is advertised as ultimate native 4K projector, and should therefore of course be optimized for corresponding content,...
Forum: Digital Hi-End Projectors - $3,000+ USD MSRP   01-30-2017, 05:42 AM
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Posted By Cine4Home
Ok, I guess there is a bit of confusion here, so...

Ok, I guess there is a bit of confusion here, so I clarify that up:


The 6500k preset showed a lack of blue, so to calibrate that you would have to reduce red & green which of course causes quite...
Forum: Digital Hi-End Projectors - $3,000+ USD MSRP   01-29-2017, 01:40 PM
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Posted By Cine4Home
It actually starts off acceptable quiet in the...

It actually starts off acceptable quiet in the beginning for about 20 to 30 minutes (we measured 35dB/C from 1m)... then after about half an hour, it gets louder and louder and finally really...
Forum: Digital Hi-End Projectors - $3,000+ USD MSRP   01-29-2017, 01:22 PM
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Posted By Cine4Home
Actually the expected deviation is documented by...

Actually the expected deviation is documented by JVC for the professional version (where they have to be more precise for obvious reasons):


3000 Lumens (typical) - 2400 Lumens (minimum)...
Forum: Digital Hi-End Projectors - $3,000+ USD MSRP   01-29-2017, 10:19 AM
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Posted By Cine4Home
Of course... and like ArrowAV, I directly...

Of course... and like ArrowAV, I directly contacted JVC of course with our results and they confirmed that our measurements are in the range, they are supposed to be.

So, what excuse is next?
...
Forum: Digital Hi-End Projectors - $3,000+ USD MSRP   01-29-2017, 09:59 AM
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Posted By Cine4Home
Actually they changed the hardware several times...

Actually they changed the hardware several times during the last months.
Showings were all a "work in progress".

Gruß,
Ekki
Forum: Digital Hi-End Projectors - $3,000+ USD MSRP   01-29-2017, 09:47 AM
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Posted By Cine4Home
Exactly... it is really kinda silly to pretend...

Exactly... it is really kinda silly to pretend that in Japan no QC is done at all. If it was like that, it would be a scandal for a projector of this price range (actually in any price range). First...
Forum: Digital Hi-End Projectors - $3,000+ USD MSRP   01-29-2017, 08:02 AM
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Posted By Cine4Home
That profile is original already in the Z1 and...

That profile is original already in the Z1 and actually this is also the factory-preset setting when you connect a 4K/UHD player. So it seems that even the JVC engineers think this is the best way to...
Forum: Digital Hi-End Projectors - $3,000+ USD MSRP   01-29-2017, 07:49 AM
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Posted By Cine4Home
Like mentioned above, we plan to do exactly that...

Like mentioned above, we plan to do exactly that next wednesday. I let you know, how it turns out to be. I have no doubt that this will work but I am a bit sceptical about the usage of the DCI filter...
Forum: Digital Hi-End Projectors - $3,000+ USD MSRP   01-29-2017, 06:51 AM
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Posted By Cine4Home
You mean a direct shoot out? Not yet. The...

You mean a direct shoot out? Not yet.

The VW are usually not quite as bright as the X7000 and have less contrast but show a better sharpness.

For everybody who is really interested in...
Forum: Digital Hi-End Projectors - $3,000+ USD MSRP   01-29-2017, 06:14 AM
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Posted By Cine4Home
Sure... http://cine4home.de/pics/Hear3.jpg ...

Sure...

http://cine4home.de/pics/Hear3.jpg


:D
Forum: Digital Hi-End Projectors - $3,000+ USD MSRP   01-29-2017, 05:13 AM
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Posted By Cine4Home
About 4300 lumens without DCI Filter and 3200...

About 4300 lumens without DCI Filter and 3200 lumens with DCI filter. (=25% filter loss)

Native Contrast 12,000:1 to 15,000:1.
Forum: Digital Hi-End Projectors - $3,000+ USD MSRP   01-29-2017, 03:43 AM
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Posted By Cine4Home
We did compare it to the VW5000 and the X7000. ...

We did compare it to the VW5000 and the X7000.

The VW5000 appeared way sharper than the Z1. When you go closer to the screen you see that the full resolution is there too on the Z1, but due to the...
Forum: Digital Hi-End Projectors - $3,000+ USD MSRP   01-29-2017, 03:08 AM
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Posted By Cine4Home
It does, at native color temperature (which is...

It does, at native color temperature (which is far too greenish): 2920 lumens / min throw distance / max zoom.

Of course that is of no help at all, but it does reach the marketing specs "somehow"....
Forum: Digital Hi-End Projectors - $3,000+ USD MSRP   01-28-2017, 05:54 PM
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Posted By Cine4Home
No contrast hit :)

No contrast hit :)
Forum: Digital Hi-End Projectors - $3,000+ USD MSRP   01-28-2017, 05:24 PM
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Posted By Cine4Home
I did not find any trade off in brightness for...

I did not find any trade off in brightness for the low latency mode actually. All they do is disable the FI, the anamorphic algorithm and the keystone (so basically the geometry section of the signal...
Forum: Digital Hi-End Projectors - $3,000+ USD MSRP   01-28-2017, 05:04 PM
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Posted By Cine4Home
Nothing is measured from the screen. Every...

Nothing is measured from the screen.
Every projector gives you the highest lumens / lowest contrast when you put it as close as possible to the screen and zoom the picture to its maximum size. With...
Forum: Digital Hi-End Projectors - $3,000+ USD MSRP   01-28-2017, 04:38 PM
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Posted By Cine4Home
Yes, someday, somewhere you might be eventually...

Yes, someday, somewhere you might be eventually able to use a wider color space... sure... good spin! ;)

Have fun calibrating that without the Z1 matching any standard at all.

Actually with the...
Forum: Digital Hi-End Projectors - $3,000+ USD MSRP   01-28-2017, 04:28 PM
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Posted By Cine4Home
Nothing is misleading, these are the numbers if...

Nothing is misleading, these are the numbers if you want to have 100% P3 colors on the screen, there is no way around it. You either engage the filter or you don't, there is no "half filter" option....
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