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Forum: Audio Gear   10-20-2014, 10:09 AM
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Posted By batpig
Just to be clear, because I've had a couple of...

Just to be clear, because I've had a couple of last minute hail mary lowballs -- this item was SOLD LOCALLY and is no longer for sale. Thanks everyone for your interest :)
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-20-2014, 07:44 AM
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Posted By batpig
It's supposed to just be a "shortcut" to the SW...

It's supposed to just be a "shortcut" to the SW global channel volume (as distinct from the Option / Ch Level menu which is input specific). So it's odd what you report.

I'll admit to not having...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-19-2014, 09:23 PM
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Posted By batpig
1. Extra distance is due to digital filters in...

1. Extra distance is due to digital filters in the subwoofer. Did you enable the "direct" or crossover bypass mode on the SVS? If not that would definitely explain the extra distance.

2. I think...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-19-2014, 04:01 PM
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Posted By batpig
For sure. Soft subtle cues I could be on board...

For sure. Soft subtle cues I could be on board with. But dead silence most of the time in the overheads? Just seems odd to me.

And even when there are some overhead effects, they tend to be pretty...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-19-2014, 04:00 PM
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Posted By batpig
Not sure if you are being facetious or not but...

Not sure if you are being facetious or not but all the action takes place on earths surface.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-19-2014, 01:31 PM
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Posted By batpig
I believe you, your professional opinion...

I believe you, your professional opinion certainly quells my conspiracy theory. But you don't find it odd that the overheads are dead silent when the friggin mothership is cruising directly...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-18-2014, 11:11 PM
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Posted By batpig
First part is really a better question for the...

First part is really a better question for the Pro Kit thread. "Will you notice a difference" is a pretty tough question to answer definitively.

I can answer the last part -- for consumer...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-18-2014, 11:02 PM
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Posted By batpig
I have zero hard evidence for this, but my...

I have zero hard evidence for this, but my alarmist, speculative conclusion after sleeping on it is that it's a bad encode and something got F'd up, and most of the object metadata either didn't get...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-18-2014, 10:47 PM
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Posted By batpig
Music upmix is always going to be the most...

Music upmix is always going to be the most subjective element, but I have been extremely impressed with DSU on music so far in my 5.1.2 setup. And I was never in love with PLII or Neo:X Music modes...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-18-2014, 10:30 PM
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Posted By batpig
Didn't watch the whole thing but I did watch a...

Didn't watch the whole thing but I did watch a good chunk of the Redux streaming off Netflix the other night. Predictably awesome. Helicopters, music, guns, drugs.... perfect for DSU :)

Can't...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-18-2014, 10:29 PM
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Posted By batpig
Not sure if that was a brain fart / typo, but you...

Not sure if that was a brain fart / typo, but you CAN'T do Front Height + Top Front. You can do any 2 of the 5 possible overhead pairs but they can't be adjacent. So if you already have FH, the...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-18-2014, 08:44 AM
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Posted By batpig
Just as an alternate suggestion, be aware that...

Just as an alternate suggestion, be aware that the Denon has picture control adjustments which are input specific. So for example what you can do is calibrate your TV for your "reference" input as a...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-18-2014, 07:07 AM
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Posted By batpig
That's only in music mode. In cinema mode there...

That's only in music mode. In cinema mode there is no adjustment just like DSU. And realistically how many people tweak the music settings and even realize they are adjustable? And especially for...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-18-2014, 06:47 AM
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Posted By batpig
JD - note that he is including Front Height...

JD - note that he is including Front Height speakers in his "7.2" layout. You can't EQ and switch between 6 overheads (FH and 4 ceiling speakers). This requires physically reconnecting the different...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-18-2014, 02:18 AM
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Posted By batpig
Just to back up what Keith reported recently.... ...

Just to back up what Keith reported recently....

I picked up TF4 (couldn't bring myself to pay full price but stumbled upon one for 10 bucks on craigslist) and am watching it now. Besides the fact...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-18-2014, 01:31 AM
Replies: 11,572
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Posted By batpig
Sorry but you're not understanding. The internal...

Sorry but you're not understanding. The internal pink noise test tones are useless for what we are discussing. And there is no way to use them with Audyssey EQ engaged.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-17-2014, 10:17 PM
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Posted By batpig
But how do I feed a test signal to that channel...

But how do I feed a test signal to that channel to measure? That's the problem.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-17-2014, 05:39 PM
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Posted By batpig
The equivalent replacements with Atmos still can...

The equivalent replacements with Atmos still can only process 11 channels at a time so you can't run all those old speakers simultaneously with Atmos. But you can still leave them hooked up.

And...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-17-2014, 03:11 PM
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Posted By batpig
"Preserving" and "creating" are really the same...

"Preserving" and "creating" are really the same thing in this context -- the notch is incoporated into the target curve for the Atmos enabled speakers. Remember we had a whole discussion about this,...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-17-2014, 09:13 AM
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Posted By batpig
Atmos enabled speakers have built in filters to...

Atmos enabled speakers have built in filters to add some special high frequency response "notches" that enhance the illusion of the speakers being above you. However, these notches are also...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-17-2014, 07:25 AM
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Posted By batpig
As I just noted five posts before yours, the real...

As I just noted five posts before yours, the real reason to step up is for 11ch capability.

Dialogue Enchancer is not worth the $500+ premium on its own. I've found its improvement to be subtle...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-16-2014, 09:09 PM
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Posted By batpig
I don't think it's consumer demand so much as...

I don't think it's consumer demand so much as trickle down technology becoming affordable, and therefore creating market saturation in the hardware. As I noted above, you can't buy any (excepting...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-16-2014, 09:05 PM
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Posted By batpig
I think you are seriously underestimating the...

I think you are seriously underestimating the impact that the overhead ambiance has on enhancing the realism and therefore immersiveness of the soundscape. It's not just about crap flying over your...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-16-2014, 06:14 PM
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Posted By batpig
TF4 rental has been confirmed as having atmos. ...

TF4 rental has been confirmed as having atmos.

I don't buy the availability excuse. Pretty much every TV or BdP is 3D now. There is plenty of hardware penetration. It's not availability, it's...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   10-16-2014, 06:09 PM
Replies: 2,517
Views: 114,596
Posted By batpig
If amplification is the only reason you want the...

If amplification is the only reason you want the X5200 then I would get the 4100 and an external amp. Yes the amps are really better but they aren't that much better and certainly not as better as a...
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