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Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-09-2014, 01:24 PM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Yeah. Darn it. I've been rumbled. But another 297...

Yeah. Darn it. I've been rumbled. But another 297 mentions and I can retire. :)

Atmos really is going to be a major revolution in movie audio though.

296....
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-09-2014, 01:22 PM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Have you?

Have you?
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-09-2014, 12:56 PM
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Posted By kbarnes701
I'll do the best I can but it is a demo and I...

I'll do the best I can but it is a demo and I won’t have any control of the content.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-09-2014, 12:54 PM
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Posted By kbarnes701
No need for a new Bluray player. Atmos comes as a...

No need for a new Bluray player. Atmos comes as a TrueHD track and the player bitstreams it to the AVR where the Atmos info is decoded.

WRT to studios - the takeup of Atmos by the movie industry...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-09-2014, 12:53 PM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Not the Pio website - the AVS thread. Use search...

Not the Pio website - the AVS thread. Use search for Andrew Jones and Pioneer and Atmos. You'll find it easily enough.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-09-2014, 11:04 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
No - it's a totally new design. If you want to...

No - it's a totally new design. If you want to try to understand it, check out Andrew Jones's comments in the Pioneer thread.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-09-2014, 10:33 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
There seems to be a substantial difference...

There seems to be a substantial difference between the 'Atmos part' of an Atmos speaker and a regular speaker laid on its back. In the Pioneer thread, Andrew Jones explains some of the design...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-09-2014, 07:17 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
One of the problems with a centre back speaker,...

One of the problems with a centre back speaker, IIRC, is that the way pyscho-acoustics works, any sound placed right behind your head images as though it came from in front of you. How this would...
Forum: Subwoofers, Bass, and Transducers   07-09-2014, 07:14 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
That is interesting. I wonder then if the OP has...

That is interesting. I wonder then if the OP has a cabinet issue? I certainly get nothing like what I would call 'vibration' through either of my F2s. Last night I watched Iron Man again (I am...
Forum: Subwoofers, Bass, and Transducers   07-09-2014, 06:51 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
It's true that the dual opposed design of the HP...

It's true that the dual opposed design of the HP is going to less prone to cabinet vibration than the F2. But the fact remains I have reference bass here and the cabinet of my F2s does not vibrate...
Forum: Subwoofers, Bass, and Transducers   07-09-2014, 04:01 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Thanks for the additional info. I am surprised...

Thanks for the additional info. I am surprised nobody else has chimed in on this interesting discussion.

I am a bit disturbed by your coin experiment results. Tonight I will wind up my bass by 5dB...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-09-2014, 03:04 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
He told me on the Lounge that Emotiva have 'no...

He told me on the Lounge that Emotiva have 'no fear' of Atmos and that they always knew Atmos was coming but chose deliberately to not include it in the XMC-1. Not long before he told me that, he had...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-09-2014, 02:48 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Yes, if you have no plan to upgrade to Atmos,...

Yes, if you have no plan to upgrade to Atmos, then there is no reason to buy an Atmos-enabled AVR.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-09-2014, 02:46 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
YPAO can measure the angles but the information...

YPAO can measure the angles but the information is not being fed back into the Atmos engine unfortunately.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-09-2014, 02:40 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Top Gun with an Atmos mix.... oh, oh, oh,...

Top Gun with an Atmos mix.... oh, oh, oh, ooooooooh! And all the others you mention too would probably see my credit card start glowing with the heat...:)
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-09-2014, 02:29 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
That was my point, Scott - that the benefits of...

That was my point, Scott - that the benefits of the Atmos mix seemed to be trickling down.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-08-2014, 01:12 PM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Well the most obvious was that he clearly said...

Well the most obvious was that he clearly said that Atmos was not object-based, but DTS-UHD was. That is incorrect.

In addition there is a lot of confusion about channels, speakers and what Atmos...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-08-2014, 12:26 PM
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Posted By kbarnes701
This may be way off base and I am happy to be...

This may be way off base and I am happy to be shot down, but I think we are already benefiting in a limited way from Atmos mixes. For example, I understand that the dialogue in 'Gravity' was created...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-08-2014, 12:21 PM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Ye, I was disappointed as you know. But even a...

Ye, I was disappointed as you know. But even a discrete 11.1 mix is way better than what is currently available. Not perfect, but still better.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-08-2014, 12:20 PM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Yes, it is a disappointment that that wasn't...

Yes, it is a disappointment that that wasn't included from the get-go, I agree. But if you can place your speakers in the recommended positions, it is of no consequence.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-08-2014, 12:14 PM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Andrew Robinson doesn't. Well, he thinks it will...

Andrew Robinson doesn't. Well, he thinks it will only happen in the ceiling speakers.... ;)
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-08-2014, 12:12 PM
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Posted By kbarnes701
The sigh was at the sheer lack of understanding...

The sigh was at the sheer lack of understanding displayed in that post.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-08-2014, 11:35 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
The most hilarious thing I remember him saying,...

The most hilarious thing I remember him saying, in a podcast, is that the XMC-1 will be all the processor you'll need for 15 years! What a joke, when it isn't even all the processor that is needed...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-08-2014, 11:32 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Yep. If his intention is to cast the XMC-1 in a...

Yep. If his intention is to cast the XMC-1 in a better light, then I understand where he is coming from. But the entire post is so misinformed, it really doesn't do his credibilitiy much good. But...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-08-2014, 11:29 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
I don't understand your question, sorry.

I don't understand your question, sorry.
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