Okay, further update to the no bass problem with my Rotel, Pioneer combination. I finally got around to switching the sub output from my Rotel to the Pioneer dvd player, and now I have tons of bass. Almost too much actually. So, what is up? There is nothing wrong with the analog cable from the Pioneer to the Rotel processor, I've changed them around with no results. Somehow, the signal gets lost in the processor??? I give.