Originally Posted by gus6464
I have something against them because of threads like this. Guy buys a pair based on what people tell him in the forum. Speakers arrive to his house and sets them up accordingly. He ends up not liking their sound and everyone ends up blaming everything from the room to his ears except the speakers. Then they tell him to get rid of his furniture (dumbest part). After a week of thorough listening guy still not likes the speakers so it's time to talk about charts and design of speakers which honestly the OP could care less about as all he cares about is what he is hearing (which is what should matter).
I am probably going to upset a few people with this post, it is a bit out-of-character for me but this was a perfectly reasonable and extremely informative thread up to a specific point.
Seriously now, it is enough. The OP came to this forum with legitimate concerns. He wasn't "hearing" what others were and was curious as to why. Nobody is trying to *convince* the OP one way or another, not even I, and these are my products. People are offering advice and explanation, and this is EXACTLY WHAT THIS FORUM IS ABOUT.
I have had many correspondences with TJ thus far and I have been trying to assist him in making a decision, what to listen for, emotional involvement -- even some technical discussion as to why he hears differences between the speakers. Really no different than what has already been posted in this thread, only in a less public and, unfortunately, now a more civil manner (at the OP's request).
Why don't you ask him if I or anyone else is trying to convince or (love this term you used) *brainwash* him. Please, give TJ a bit of credit here
I have already offered to take the speakers back as I too had thought they weren't the right speaker for him either, but he is not quite ready for that yet as there are quite a few characteristics of the Sierra-1 that he really likes. His decision, his choice - and based entirely on his listening experience.
As I recall, it wasn't too long ago that YOU had a legitimate interest in the Sierra-1 as well... Why the hate? Seriously, exactly what have you brought to this thread, other than turning it from calm and peaceful towards one now becoming quite emotional?
Personally, I am just glad that TJHUB can look past posts like yours and make a decision for himself (which he is a strong enough individual to do so). Unlike a few here that draw conclusions on products they have never heard or worse, draw fanboyism conclusions based on honest advice from enthusiasts that have years of extensive experience.
Show me one post from an "Ascend Fanboy" that isn't a truism or helpful audio advice.
There is a world of difference between "Fanboyism" and helpful advice; it is really a shame that you don't see that you are guilty of the same crime as the people you are accusing Only in your case it is anti-fan (same emotion, Gus, hate-love - same thing) but at least the one's you accuse offer help.
The only person with anything to gain or lose with regard to what speakers TJ ends up preferring is me and I have already offered to take them back.