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post #1291 of 1384
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Originally Posted by parkmad View Post

I placed an order on SonyStyle.com yesterday for the S550 and initially it showed today as the ship date. After checking the order today, it now shows estimated ship date of Oct. 26th. Guess I missed the window.


I placed an order over the weekend and the same thing happened to me when I went into check it yesterday it said it wasn't going to ship till the 26th but this morning I got an email from them saying that it shipped yesterday, so give it a chance you might get some good news by tomorrow.


Tom
post #1292 of 1384
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Originally Posted by b00bie View Post

I placed an order over the weekend and the same thing happened to me when I went into check it yesterday it said it wasn't going to ship till the 26th but this morning I got an email from them saying that it shipped yesterday, so give it a chance you might get some good news by tomorrow.


Tom

Thanks for the information, I was going to cancel the order, but I will wait for a few days.
post #1293 of 1384
I ordered mine on Oct 1st and it should arrive sometime tomorrow.
post #1294 of 1384
I placed my order on 10/5 and looked on SonyStyle and it said the ship date was 10/26.. I called and they told me they don't know why it defaulted to that but it shipped yesterday and I have a delivery date of 10/9..
post #1295 of 1384
Still can't discern from the manual if the analogs will work in a 5.1 setup. Does just setting the Surround Backs to NONE accomplish this? Will it downmix 7.1 to 5.1? Also, any news on what the crossover is?
post #1296 of 1384
anyone know when the 550 will be available at the B&M stores like CC and BB?
post #1297 of 1384
Does these units have a door that lowers, and then a drawer that holds the DVD comes out?
post #1298 of 1384
I ordered the BDP-S550 from the SonyStyle web site on October 5. It arrived today! I wanted it for a 7.1 analog input to my prepro. Having DTS HD master audio decoding capability with analog 7.1 out is a must. Sadly, it doesn't appear to have that capability out of the box. The internally generated test tone demonstrates 7.1 speaker capability appropriately. Unfortunately, when I play the Hairspray Blu-ray which is supposed to be DTS HDMA 7.1, no sound comes from my rear surround speakers. Hopefully, Sony will provide a firmware update very soon, or I will be returning the unit. Also, for those of you asking, the speaker management allows asigning speakers large/small/absent; distance can be set to the nearest foot for the R+L, center, sub, surround, and rear surround speakers (not all 8 individually). There is no crossover setting for the sub.
post #1299 of 1384
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Originally Posted by johnrlane View Post

I ordered the BDP-S550 from the SonyStyle web site on October 5. It arrived today! I wanted it for a 7.1 analog input to my prepro. Having DTS HD master audio decoding capability with analog 7.1 out is a must. Sadly, it doesn't appear to have that capability out of the box. The internally generated test tone demonstrates 7.1 speaker capability appropriately. Unfortunately, when I play the Hairspray Blu-ray which is supposed to be DTS HDMA 7.1, no sound comes from my rear surround speakers. Hopefully, Sony will provide a firmware update very soon, or I will be returning the unit. Also, for those of you asking, the speaker management allows asigning speakers large/small/absent; distance can be set to the nearest foot for the R+L, center, sub, surround, and rear surround speakers (not all 8 individually). There is no crossover setting for the sub.

Does it say DTS MA on the audio screen? Is there another setting preventing sound from the rear surrounds?
post #1300 of 1384
Onscreen display says DTS 3/2. The only menu setting from the disk itself is the DTS HDMA selection. I'll play around with the settings and see if anything else is going on.
post #1301 of 1384
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Originally Posted by johnrlane View Post

I ordered the BDP-S550 from the SonyStyle web site on October 5. It arrived today! I wanted it for a 7.1 analog input to my prepro. Having DTS HD master audio decoding capability with analog 7.1 out is a must. Sadly, it doesn't appear to have that capability out of the box. The internally generated test tone demonstrates 7.1 speaker capability appropriately. Unfortunately, when I play the Hairspray Blu-ray which is supposed to be DTS HDMA 7.1, no sound comes from my rear surround speakers. Hopefully, Sony will provide a firmware update very soon, or I will be returning the unit. Also, for those of you asking, the speaker management allows asigning speakers large/small/absent; distance can be set to the nearest foot for the R+L, center, sub, surround, and rear surround speakers (not all 8 individually). There is no crossover setting for the sub.

Try a different 7.1 disc, the Hairspray disc is defective.
post #1302 of 1384
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Originally Posted by johnrlane View Post

I ordered the BDP-S550 from the SonyStyle web site on October 5. It arrived today! I wanted it for a 7.1 analog input to my prepro. Having DTS HD master audio decoding capability with analog 7.1 out is a must. Sadly, it doesn't appear to have that capability out of the box. The internally generated test tone demonstrates 7.1 speaker capability appropriately. Unfortunately, when I play the Hairspray Blu-ray which is supposed to be DTS HDMA 7.1, no sound comes from my rear surround speakers. Hopefully, Sony will provide a firmware update very soon, or I will be returning the unit. Also, for those of you asking, the speaker management allows asigning speakers large/small/absent; distance can be set to the nearest foot for the R+L, center, sub, surround, and rear surround speakers (not all 8 individually). There is no crossover setting for the sub.

Do you have any other DTS HDMA 7.1 titles to try? I know New Line had some titles that had issues, not sure about Hairspray. For the PS3, firmware updates now accomodate the flags on most of those titles, but originally Shoot 'Em Up would only play in 5.1, while Golden Compass played fine at 7.1. Since thie fix, Shoote Em Up plays in 7.1
Would be good to try one of the newer New Line titles rather than their first one, since the newer ones used different flags that didn't cause problems. Could be they just need revised firmware to accomodate those early titles, not that the capability doesn't exist.
post #1303 of 1384
I'll dig out some more disks. Is the mastering of Hairspray defective, or do you think it's my disk? I'm really hoping the BDP-S550 is DTS HDMA capable.
post #1304 of 1384
Shoot EM Up plays 5.1 - no surround rear analog output. No indicators on the machine or onscreen indicate DTS HDMA. Onscreen display says DTS 3/2. I double checked all the audio settings. I set analog out as priority. I assigned fronts as large, center small, surround small and rear surround as small. There does not appear to be any other way to set up the player as 5.1 or 7.1. The test tone plays each speaker appropriately, so the cabling on my part seems ok.

I don't own Golden compass. The Fox disks I own all seem to be 5.1. At this point I can't tell if I am getting the DTS core or master audio.

Sony techies, help us out.

The manual suggests 7.1 analog output of DTS HDMA, no mention of the core. Output over the coax/optical are indicated as DTS.
post #1305 of 1384
One other thought. This player has a very fast start up and reaction times. The BD Java loads MUCH faster than my BDP-S1. More later.
post #1306 of 1384
Hairspray, Shoot 'em Up, and Pan's Labyrinth were among a handful of discs from Mi Casa that used the new DTS 7.1 speaker mapping flags with the surrounds pulled back from their usual 90 degree positions. Some decoders (the initial PS3 decoder, for example) were engineered to downmix 7.1 to 5.1 with non-standard speaker mappings. It sounds like the decoder in the S550 is doing the same thing. Sony fixed the PS3 decoder to handle that particular mapping properly. 7.1 dts-MA discs are no longer being released with the troublesome mapping that is found on Hairspray, et al.
post #1307 of 1384
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Originally Posted by SoundChex View Post

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Originally Posted by pwiss View Post

FYI: Chris Boylan reported that the BD55 does not support 6.1 either. It is the same as the Sony 7.1 or 5.1.

In DTS-HDMA, 6.1 output [from a 7.1 BD] requires an additional speaker remapping step after the [lossless] decompression. From the information supplied here it is not possible to determine whether the omission of support for 6.1 analog output is the result of (a) incomplete speaker remapping functionality in the S550 decode-to-analog process, or (b) omission of a 'synthetic EDID' specific to the analog 6.1 output process.

One useful test: How does the S550 decode one of the variant speaker layout authored BDs from NewLine, e.g., Pan's Labyrinth? Full 7.1 decode to analog would indicate the problem is the omission of an appropriate 6.1 EDID, but only 5.1 decode to analog might indicate a feature limitation in the S550's decode-to-analog process.

Either way, it seems likely that the decode to LPCM over HDMI process works correctly...

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Originally Posted by johnrlane View Post

I ordered the BDP-S550 from the SonyStyle web site on October 5. It arrived today! I wanted it for a 7.1 analog input to my prepro. Having DTS HD master audio decoding capability with analog 7.1 out is a must. Sadly, it doesn't appear to have that capability out of the box. The internally generated test tone demonstrates 7.1 speaker capability appropriately. Unfortunately, when I play the Hairspray Blu-ray which is supposed to be DTS HDMA 7.1, no sound comes from my rear surround speakers. Hopefully, Sony will provide a firmware update very soon, or I will be returning the unit. Also, for those of you asking, the speaker management allows assigning speakers large/small/absent; distance can be set to the nearest foot for the R+L, center, sub, surround, and rear surround speakers (not all 8 individually). There is no crossover setting for the sub.

I believe Hairspray is one of the 'variant speaker layout' authored BDs from NewLine. So it would appear that the S550's DTS-HDMA decode-to-analog functionality is limited to decompression [with speaker remapping omitted]. This provides the explanation as to why there is no provision for an analog 6.1 speaker configuration support.
post #1308 of 1384
well, i got my today.
First impressions, just out of the box, power it up, connect to onkyo705 using hdmi and pop in iron man... no setting changes.

1. packing was horible- no fedex package, just the sony s550 box, box already torn at the bottom.
2. No new lights show up on my 705. I already watched sd-dvd of Iron man, and i watch movies in PLIIx mode(i have 7.1 setup). With the BD version of Iron man, it changed to multi channel. Sound wise i (think)did not hear any difference between the BD and SD disc. Picture wise, BD looked a little better.(definitely not worth 423 dollars).

3. Popped in Sd dvd, my philips dvp5982 did a good job with the picture than the s550, i thought, this is again just 5-10 minute watching.(i just got the player an hour back!!).

Will try to read the s550 manual and the onkyo 705 manual to see if i need to change anything for the BD player to get maximum of out it.

Don't flame me, as i did not do any adjustments. I sure can take some suggestions to improve the sound quality if not both pic and sound.

Thanks
post #1309 of 1384
question

When i pop in a disc, i just can't press play, i need to first press close and then play.(i am comparing with philips dvp5982, where i can put a disc and just press play on the remote).
post #1310 of 1384
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Originally Posted by csrini1 View Post

well, i got my today.
First impressions, just out of the box, power it up, connect to onkyo705 using hdmi and pop in iron man... no setting changes.

1. packing was horible- no fedex package, just the sony s550 box, box already torn at the bottom.
2. No new lights show up on my 705. I already watched sd-dvd of Iron man, and i watch movies in PLIIx mode(i have 7.1 setup). With the BD version of Iron man, it changed to multi channel. Sound wise i (think)did not hear any difference between the BD and SD disc. Picture wise, BD looked a little better.(definitely not worth 423 dollars).

3. Popped in Sd dvd, my philips dvp5982 did a good job with the picture than the s550, i thought, this is again just 5-10 minute watching.(i just got the player an hour back!!).

Will try to read the s550 manual and the onkyo 705 manual to see if i need to change anything for the BD player to get maximum of out it.

Don't flame me, as i did not do any adjustments. I sure can take some suggestions to improve the sound quality if not both pic and sound.

Thanks

What's your display? What kind of connection do you have? What kind of audio connection do you have?
post #1311 of 1384
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Originally Posted by csrini1 View Post

3. Popped in Sd dvd, my philips dvp5982 did a good job with the picture than the s550, i thought,

Not surprising, I think the dvp-5990 does a damn good job too. Its no PS3, but its better than my s350.
post #1312 of 1384
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Originally Posted by csrini1 View Post

question

When i pop in a disc, i just can't press play, i need to first press close and then play.(i am comparing with philips dvp5982, where i can put a disc and just press play on the remote).

Where was your Sony manufactured ? Japan, Malaysia, China ?
post #1313 of 1384
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Originally Posted by csrini1 View Post

question

When i pop in a disc, i just can't press play, i need to first press close and then play.(i am comparing with philips dvp5982, where i can put a disc and just press play on the remote).


I don't see the question.
post #1314 of 1384
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Originally Posted by johnrlane View Post

I ordered the BDP-S550 from the SonyStyle web site on October 5. It arrived today! I wanted it for a 7.1 analog input to my prepro. Having DTS HD master audio decoding capability with analog 7.1 out is a must. Sadly, it doesn't appear to have that capability out of the box. The internally generated test tone demonstrates 7.1 speaker capability appropriately. Unfortunately, when I play the Hairspray Blu-ray which is supposed to be DTS HDMA 7.1, no sound comes from my rear surround speakers. Hopefully, Sony will provide a firmware update very soon, or I will be returning the unit. Also, for those of you asking, the speaker management allows asigning speakers large/small/absent; distance can be set to the nearest foot for the R+L, center, sub, surround, and rear surround speakers (not all 8 individually). There is no crossover setting for the sub.

Ugh.........no crossover settings? Hopefully its default fixed setting is 80hz. No DTS-MA from the analog outputs? Dang this is not looking good thus far.
post #1315 of 1384
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Originally Posted by csrini1 View Post

well, i got my today.
First impressions, just out of the box, power it up, connect to onkyo705 using hdmi and pop in iron man... no setting changes.

1. packing was horible- no fedex package, just the sony s550 box, box already torn at the bottom.
2. No new lights show up on my 705. I already watched sd-dvd of Iron man, and i watch movies in PLIIx mode(i have 7.1 setup). With the BD version of Iron man, it changed to multi channel. Sound wise i (think)did not hear any difference between the BD and SD disc. Picture wise, BD looked a little better.(definitely not worth 423 dollars).

3. Popped in Sd dvd, my philips dvp5982 did a good job with the picture than the s550, i thought, this is again just 5-10 minute watching.(i just got the player an hour back!!).

Will try to read the s550 manual and the onkyo 705 manual to see if i need to change anything for the BD player to get maximum of out it.

Don't flame me, as i did not do any adjustments. I sure can take some suggestions to improve the sound quality if not both pic and sound.

Thanks

What the flip? Maybe I just need to get a upconverting 1080p DVD player for a hundred bucks and call it good until BD works out its issues. This sounds redundant.
post #1316 of 1384
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Originally Posted by RobertR View Post

What's your display? What kind of connection do you have? What kind of audio connection do you have?

sorry, my display is vizio 60 inch 720p, my connection from 550 to onkyo is hdmi and also hdmi from onkyo to vizio 60" tv. i have 7.1 kef speaker setup.
post #1317 of 1384
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Originally Posted by Stew4msu View Post

I don't see the question.

question was is there a combination of buttons(secret button) when pressed, will do 1. close the tray and 2. start playing the disc.
post #1318 of 1384
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Originally Posted by BrentSP View Post

What the flip? SD looking just as good as BD? man I'm not liking this

First owner could have certain discs that are defective with DTS MA 7.1.

Second owner has a 720P TV which would make SD look closer to BD. You really need a 1080P TV to make BD shine.

I would wait for more owners to chime in. I will have mine delivered on Thurs. So I will be able to test for myself.
post #1319 of 1384
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Originally Posted by narcopolo View Post

Where was your Sony manufactured ? Japan, Malaysia, China ?

Mine says:

blue-ray disc/dvd player:made in Japan
Remote commander: Made in Malaysia
External Memory:Made in Taiwan
Other components:Made in China.

I forgot to mention, this thing is huge too. I saw someone posted the dimensions, but did not pay much attention to it then.
post #1320 of 1384
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Originally Posted by csrini1 View Post

Mine says:

blue-ray disc/dvd player:made in Japan
Remote commander: Made in Malaysia
External Memory:Made in Taiwan
Other components:Made in China.

I forgot to mention, this thing is huge too. I saw someone posted the dimensions, but did not pay much attention to it then.

You should open up the S550 and tell us what video chipset it uses.
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