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post #91 of 2224
Do you really think you'll find the 1018 for under $400?
post #92 of 2224
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Originally Posted by Airric View Post

According to the press releases I've seen, all four, including the 520 will be able to transcode all inputs to HDMI (the 920 will be the only one to upscale to 1080p though) Here's an excerpt from the TWICE article:

any idea what is the upscaler chip 920 is using? uhm....seems like 663 is the most value for money onez...
post #93 of 2224
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Originally Posted by andy sullivan View Post

Which brings me back to my question. Which one is the "THE ONE", if you don't need pre outs? Yamaha663, Pioneer1018, Onkyo605, Sony920?

This is exactly what I want to know, between these 3 receivers, whick one is the 'The One'. I guess I have to wait for some peoples review that received their Yamaha 663. For now I will look for some HT speakers.
post #94 of 2224
^^^
"This is exactly what I want to know, between these 3 receivers,..."

Yamaha663, Pioneer1018, Onkyo605, Sony920 => 4 receivers
post #95 of 2224
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Originally Posted by kulims View Post

^^^ First page of this thread, look very closely to the lower right of the 920 jpg attachment.

that makes it not better than the Onkyo 605.....
post #96 of 2224
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Originally Posted by samsurd2 View Post

^^^
"This is exactly what I want to know, between these 3 receivers,..."

Yamaha663, Pioneer1018, Onkyo605, Sony920 => 4 receivers


I said 3. I did not mentioned anything about Onkyo 605.
post #97 of 2224
Sorry to beat a dead horse, so to speak, but I know the 1018 and the 920 won't be out for awhile yet and the 663 is very new. That being said, based on past performance (music SQ and movie SQ), some of the very experienced folks lurking here must be able to give some kind of realistic projection of how these three, 663,1018,920 should compare bottom line. I'm not talking about pre amps and number of HDMI inputs, just performance and ease of navigation.
post #98 of 2224
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Originally Posted by andy sullivan View Post

Sorry to beat a dead horse, so to speak, but I know the 1018 and the 920 won't be out for awhile yet and the 663 is very new. That being said, based on past performance (music SQ and movie SQ), some of the very experienced folks lurking here must be able to give some kind of realistic projection of how these three, 663,1018,920 should compare bottom line. I'm not talking about pre amps and number of HDMI inputs, just performance and ease of navigation.

I will post a video review of the yamaha RX-V663 and its navigation when mine arrives on Wednesday of this week!
post #99 of 2224
I'm still pushing for the STR-DG1100, they can be had for $500
post #100 of 2224
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I'm still pushing for the STR-DG1100, they can be had for $500

I've been looking at the DG1100 but I haven't seen it for as low as $500. Maybe $599. The DG1100 seems to weigh as much as the 3300ES whereas the 910 and 920 are at least 10lbs lighter.
post #101 of 2224
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Originally Posted by ikaden View Post

I've been looking at the DG1100 but I haven't seen it for as low as $500. Maybe $599. The DG1100 seems to weigh as much as the 3300ES whereas the 910 and 920 are at least 10lbs lighter.

For the last couple of years, at least, Sony has seemed to offer STR-DGxxxx AVRs that are essentially ES models without some of the ES bells and whistles and a 2 year vs 5 year warranty - i.e., DG1100 <> 3300ES and DG2100 <> 4300ES. Adding credence to this, I've got a DG1000 that shares a service manual with the 3200ES, weighs the same amount and has the same front panel. What's interesting to me about this is that the DG920 has 4 HDMI inputs (vs 3 for the DG1100/3300ES) and IIRC the DG920 supposedly will internally decode HBR audio; I'm not sure if the 3300ES will.
post #102 of 2224
I'm leaning towards the DG920 right now. It seems to have the OSD that my sony 60A3000 does as well as the ps3 and I really like that. Plus the HDMI's and other features make it a good buy.

I'm still waiting on the Pioneer and the Yamaha as well to see how they turn out.
post #103 of 2224
Sorry but what is OSD and why does the receiver having the same one as your TV matter? I'm not considering the DG1100 because it's really not in the right price range. The Yamaha 663 is going for $399 delivered.
post #104 of 2224
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Originally Posted by andy sullivan View Post

Sorry but what is OSD and why does the receiver having the same one as your TV matter? I'm not considering the DG1100 because it's really not in the right price range. The Yamaha 663 is going for $399 delivered.

OSD = On screen display.

Now, I could have read it wrong and the 920 doesn't have it.

but if it does and it meets up to the specs listed (I don't need pre/pro) then I'll lean towards it because I like uniformity and my guess would be it's based on the same format as the ps3 display and my tv's display so I'm used to it and used to seeing it.
post #105 of 2224
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Originally Posted by bdrex28 View Post

OSD = On screen display.

Now, I could have read it wrong and the 920 doesn't have it.

but if it does and it meets up to the specs listed (I don't need pre/pro) then I'll lean towards it because I like uniformity and my guess would be it's based on the same format as the ps3 display and my tv's display so I'm used to it and used to seeing it.

I'm thinking the DG1100 should sound better than the DG920 right? The DG1100 has similar innards to the 3300ES right and it's THD is 0.09 as opposed to the DG920's 1.0 THD. Of course the 920 has an extra HDMI input and can decode the newer formats (but then again you're using a PS3 which I believe already decodes the HD audio formats).
post #106 of 2224
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Originally Posted by ikaden View Post

I'm thinking the DG1100 should sound better than the DG920 right? The DG1100 has similar innards to the 3300ES right and it's THD is 0.09 as opposed to the DG920's 1.0 THD. Of course the 920 has an extra HDMI input and can decode the newer formats (but then again you're using a PS3 which I believe already decodes the HD audio formats).

I doubt if you'll be able to hear the difference between a THD of .09 and 1.0 - even if you ears are a lot younger than mine. The choice should really be a matter of what features are most important to you - more HDMI inputs and AVR HBR decoding or ES type build quality. JMO
post #107 of 2224
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Originally Posted by samsurd2 View Post

I doubt if you'll be able to hear the difference between a THD of .09 and 1.0 - even if you ears are a lot younger than mine. The choice should really be a matter of what features are most important to you - more HDMI inputs and AVR HBR decoding or ES type build quality. JMO

You're probably right that few, if any, can tell the difference between a THD of 0.09 and 1.0. I'd love to listen to them side by side to see if there's any difference in sound quality but the 920 doesn't come out for a few months and there doesn't appear to be any B&M stores that sell the DG1100 (the high end stores sell the ES models and BestBuy and CC only sell up to the 910).
post #108 of 2224
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If you guys want me to update the first post just let me know.
post #110 of 2224
You can pick up the 1100 for $500 at Costco. I picked mine up last week.
post #111 of 2224
All Sony AVR's list 8 Ohm impedance. I have 6 Ohm speakers.
Is this a problem?
post #112 of 2224
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All Sony AVR's list 8 Ohm impedance. I have 6 Ohm speakers.
Is this a problem?

I would not worry about that a lower impedance speaker will draw more current from the amplifier but unless you are going to play them near full volume the amp should handle that load without a problem!!
post #113 of 2224
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Originally Posted by RCbridge View Post

I would not worry about that a lower impedance speaker will draw more current from the amplifier but unless you are going to play them near full volume the amp should handle that load without a problem!!

In the worst case, which is going to burn: the receiver or the speakers?
And what exactly could be damaged, is it something as simple as a fuse or is more serious?
post #114 of 2224
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Originally Posted by kulims View Post

I think most ARVs will allow you to change system impedance from 8 to 6 or 6 to 8.

Well, I searched carefully the manual for 910 and there is no mention about some sort of 8/6 trigger. I suppose it's the same for the newer models.
On the other hand I did see some other brands have a feature called:
"6 Ohm ready" or something like that.
post #115 of 2224
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Originally Posted by kulims View Post

I don't know about the 910, but on 661 you press power on button and another button at the same time for the system menu, I guess the 605 has similar way. I really thought the 910 has this too.

See the "TIP" on page 45 of the 910 manual but there sure doesn't seem to be alot of info in that manual about the OSD.
post #116 of 2224
I have the same ??? about 6 Ohm speakers. Now I have a DG600 now with 6ohm Yamaha speakers. Every thing works great! I'm upgrading to the 910 so I can use the HDMI switching with my new HDTV, hope to use the same speakers. On the Sony site I found the post.

Can the impedance (ohms) of the speaker be different from the impedance of the receiver?

Ohms is a rating that refers to the restriction of power, or impedance. The higher the ohm rating the more impedance is applied to the flow of power. Most home receivers and speakers are rated 4, 6 or 8 ohms. The exact rating can be found on the unit.

When matching speakers and A/V receivers, the ohm rating of the speaker should be either equal to or greater than the ohm rating of the receiver. Matching speakers of lower impedance than the A/V receiver may cause damage to the receiver and is not recommended.

NOTE: Some receivers have an impedance range, others may have an impedance switch. The switch may allow lower impedance speakers to be connected without harm to the receiver as long as the switch is set to the correct impedance.

I don't blast to the max, so I think I'll give them a try. I didn't won't to spend another $500 on new speakers for this upgrade.
post #117 of 2224
Quick question for all of you experienced receiver folks.

I currently have a HTIB and am looking to upgrade to a receiver when I purchase a blu-ray player later this year. With my proposed setup, I could have up to 6 components going to the receiver (Cable Box, Blu-Ray, 3 game consoles, and an Apple TV). However, from the looks of the back panels, it appears that the 820 can only handle 4 HD signals (the component jacks seem to match the HDMI jacks) while the 920 looks like it can handle 2-3 more (the component jacks say they are assignable).

Is this correct? Should I save the extra money for the 920 so that i would be able to hook everything up without the need for an additional switcher?

Thanks
post #118 of 2224
meaning i can only hook up 4 components? It does not look like the 820 has separate component audio hook-ups?
post #119 of 2224
You can connect different sources to different inputs with the same name. For example, you could connect a Blu-ray player to an HDMI input and a progressive scan SD DVD player to the component video input (and corresponding digital audio connection) with the same name. If the power to the Blu-ray player is ON, the receiver will give the HDMI input priority. If the power to the Blu-ray player is OFF and power is on to the SD DVD player, the receiver will give the DVD player's component video/digital audio input priority. IOW, you've got a whole lot more than four usable inputs.
post #120 of 2224
Issues with dvi is a big issue on current sony receivers, I hope newer models(820/920) overcome this problem.

I am a HTPC user and still stuck with dvi out on my pc and use coaxial for audio. I m not planning to buy hdmi equipped motherboard/videocard, till i can get decent graphics and all new hd-audio standards on htpc-hdmi output.

Sonisame
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