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post #241 of 5765
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Originally Posted by fivepoint View Post

Can anyone tell me where they are finding PX80s online? I am not looking for prices here... just can't find anywhere that is actually selling them yet. I guess I found one place (fotoconnection) but they have a HORRIBLE reputation.

Thanks!

Pricegrabber.com is your friend.
post #242 of 5765
Just a FYI, pick up a change of address packet at the post office and in it you will find a coupon for 12% off Panny tvs at BB. It's off regular prices, but still beats the sale they have now. I think its good through 5-31.
post #243 of 5765
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Originally Posted by aidanpendragon View Post

It's down to either the 50PX77U (my wife really liked the idea of anti-glare) or 50PX80U.

can anyone else compare/contrast PQ between the PX77U and PX80?

Here's my take from another thread:

Spent 2 hours in BB last week comparing the 77u to the 80u. Even tho they weren't side-by-side, it was easy to tell the difference. As many have pointed out, the 77u's screen is matte & dull, making it appear MUCH like a LCD, hence the likely reason Panasonic dumped the AG.

I gave each plasma numerous angle tests using BB's giant wall of front windows & the overhead bank of lights...looking at each plasma with it on & off. No question, the 77u does a fantastic job of attenuating glare. It was just like watching a LCD, a matte, dull look.

The 80u didn't attenuate the glare as much. As someone in another thread pointed out, with the plasma off, the light seemed to reflect in a "cross-hatch" pattern. The best example I can give is it seems to reflect it in a "kaleidoscope" manner or like light reflecting through a prism or a diamond. It reflects the light off-center instead of a direct reflection like a mirror or standard plasma.

The 80u exhibited all the great PQ as standard plasmas. The picture was sharp, crisp & clear. As someone described, it's like looking out a window...because a plasma is, after all, glass.

The 77u is, as someone described, like looking at a painting. The picture was not sharp nor crisp nor clear.

Now, perhaps the 77u & 80u are near equal in PQ in a dark room...I dunno...don't have the opportunity to evaluate as such, but in daylight with overhead lights, the 80u was MUCH clearer. And it's new AR seemed to do a fair job of reflections.

The ONLY thing about the 80u I completely dislike is the bottom sliver of the plasma. The black speaker grilles leave a lot to be desired, visually. It resembles some 90s CRTs' speaker grilles...quite ugly, IMO.

The PZ77u is FAR superior in shell appearance vs. the 80u.

But other than that, the 80u wins out in every other aspect for me.

My one & only plasma is a 50PX600u, which I am very happy with except for the gray-colored shell. My next will be a 50PX80u, which is going in the living room. The 50PX600u is retiring to the bedroom.
post #244 of 5765
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Originally Posted by bobby29 View Post



The unit is completely silent and I have yet to hear a fan kick on.


There are no fans in the 42px80u, bobby.

Larry
post #245 of 5765
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Originally Posted by LarryInRI View Post

There are no fans in the 42px80u, bobby.

Larry

HA! Well I guess that's why I haven't heard them kick on!
post #246 of 5765
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Originally Posted by slbosse View Post

AVS to the rescue! Here's where to start that search:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=109

Thanks! I will do some research!



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Originally Posted by rscotta831 View Post

Here's my take from another thread:

Spent 2 hours in BB last week comparing the 77u to the 80u. Even tho they weren't side-by-side, it was easy to tell the difference. As many have pointed out, the 77u's screen is matte & dull, making it appear MUCH like a LCD, hence the likely reason Panasonic dumped the AG.

I gave each plasma numerous angle tests using BB's giant wall of front windows & the overhead bank of lights...looking at each plasma with it on & off. No question, the 77u does a fantastic job of attenuating glare. It was just like watching a LCD, a matte, dull look.

The 80u didn't attenuate the glare as much. As someone in another thread pointed out, with the plasma off, the light seemed to reflect in a "cross-hatch" pattern. The best example I can give is it seems to reflect it in a "kaleidoscope" manner or like light reflecting through a prism or a diamond. It reflects the light off-center instead of a direct reflection like a mirror or standard plasma.

The 80u exhibited all the great PQ as standard plasmas. The picture was sharp, crisp & clear. As someone described, it's like looking out a window...because a plasma is, after all, glass.

The 77u is, as someone described, like looking at a painting. The picture was not sharp nor crisp nor clear.

Now, perhaps the 77u & 80u are near equal in PQ in a dark room...I dunno...don't have the opportunity to evaluate as such, but in daylight with overhead lights, the 80u was MUCH clearer. And it's new AR seemed to do a fair job of reflections.

The ONLY thing about the 80u I completely dislike is the bottom sliver of the plasma. The black speaker grilles leave a lot to be desired, visually. It resembles some 90s CRTs' speaker grilles...quite ugly, IMO.

The PZ77u is FAR superior in shell appearance vs. the 80u.

But other than that, the 80u wins out in every other aspect for me.

My one & only plasma is a 50PX600u, which I am very happy with except for the gray-colored shell. My next will be a 50PX80u, which is going in the living room. The 50PX600u is retiring to the bedroom.

Very interesting information! Thanks rscotta!
post #247 of 5765
I just compared a PX80U to a Pioneer 5080 at BB. The displays had 1 other monitor separating them. As others have mentioned, the Pioneer's blacks are slightly darker. The Panasonic had nicer whites and much truer color. Faces on the Pioneer were very red.

I didn't try any different settings on either box, so don't know how much of what I saw is calibration related. I liked both pictures a lot and would be happy with either set.

The anti-reflective screens on both sets were similar in glare reduction. I didn't spend a lot of time evaluating it, but didn't see any big difference.

Artifacts from the poor feed seemed to show up a bit more on the Pioneer, but it might have just been a difference in feed quality between the 2 sets.

Both of them blew the Toshiba Plasma away for picture quality.
post #248 of 5765
My 50PX80U arrived at 7AM...Now just waiting for UPS to deliver the wall mount....

Lit the tv off with it leaned up against a love seat and with the screen facing a very large window that was full of reflected sunlight. Another window to its right was booming in light off the white wall of my garage. Turned off, the screen did reflect a bunch of the light, but with the tv on (watched a little of a Mary J. Blige concert) it was barely noticeable.

Picture was excellent right out of the box and no tweaking.

Kinda wish the border around the screen was a matte finish as the shiny is pretty reflective in its own right. Minor quibble though. The look of the case otherwise is ok with me.

Good thing is, the tv will be oriented away from the direct path of the windows.

More later....
post #249 of 5765
I just got my 42px80 today and it's great! I chose it mostly on the research done here, so thanks to all posters. Compared it to the 42 Kuro, but decided that the PQ was almost as good-- the Kuro not worth the hundreds of dollars more.

Can't wait to get through the 100 hour break in and use Larry's settings.

I basically have to put my nose to the screen to pick up a "screen door" effect.

The only problem so far is with the audio. I have a Philips 5982 DVD and a TW HDDVR Scientific Atlanta 8300 hooked up to the set with HDMI cables and a Onkyo HT-R510 hooked up with a toslink cable. What I get on the Onkyo is only PCM-- no DTS. Any suggestions to get DTS? Can the current Panasonic models even pass through digital?

Thanks for any help.
post #250 of 5765
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Originally Posted by seifertb View Post

Hey guys, I am new to plasmas, well new to HD for that matter. I am looking to replace my Sony 27" that has always been to small for my living room. I was ready to pull the trigger on the TH-50PX77U until the 80 series was released.

What is my real question that you might ask? I am wondering if anyone has had any regrets over purchasing a 720P model instead of a 1080P in the 50" size? I do not have a BD player, but someday would like to think about it.

I want to make sure I get the most bang for my (limited) buck.

Thanks!

I was wondering the same thing
post #251 of 5765
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Originally Posted by davgel2 View Post

I was wondering the same thing

Really depends, what is your viewing distance and if you are looking to get blu ray as well. The price difference is pretty large between 720P and 1080P, not as bad as last years but still pretty substantial.
post #252 of 5765
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Originally Posted by sam2wi View Post

I just got my 42px80 today and it's great! I chose it mostly on the research done here, so thanks to all posters. Compared it to the 42 Kuro, but decided that the PQ was almost as good-- the Kuro not worth the hundreds of dollars more.

Can't wait to get through the 100 hour break in and use Larry's settings.

I basically have to put my nose to the screen to pick up a "screen door" effect.

The only problem so far is with the audio. I have a Philips 5982 DVD and a TW HDDVR Scientific Atlanta 8300 hooked up to the set with HDMI cables and a Onkyo HT-R510 hooked up with a toslink cable. What I get on the Onkyo is only PCM-- no DTS. Any suggestions to get DTS? Can the current Panasonic models even pass through digital?

Thanks for any help.

The TV will not pass DTS. As far as I know, no TV will do the conversion. The TV will send DTS optical data only from OTA or QAM signals received through the RF input. Connect the 8300 directly to your amplifier for digital 5.1 sound. This has been discussed in much detail in this forum. Do a search.

Larry
post #253 of 5765
You said: "Can't wait to get through the 100 hour break in and use Larry's settings."

What are "Larry's" settings? Can you forward them to: kmil123@msn.com

Thanks!
post #254 of 5765
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Originally Posted by AlexInvision View Post

Really depends, what is your viewing distance and if you are looking to get blu ray as well. The price difference is pretty large between 720P and 1080P, not as bad as last years but still pretty substantial.

I would be sitting as close as 3 feet as far as 6 or 8. I plan to get a ps3 sometime, but not for a while. yea the price diff between the 50px80 and the 50pz 80/85 is a lot
post #255 of 5765
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Originally Posted by davgel2 View Post

I would be sitting as close as 3 feet as far as 6 or 8. I plan to get a ps3 sometime, but not for a while. yea the price diff between the 50px80 and the 50pz 80/85 is a lot

I would say go with 1080P then, you are at the proper distance and you would utilize the PS3 to it's full potential when you get it.
post #256 of 5765
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Originally Posted by rscotta831 View Post

Here's my take from another thread:

Spent 2 hours in BB last week comparing the 77u to the 80u. Even tho they weren't side-by-side, it was easy to tell the difference. As many have pointed out, the 77u's screen is matte & dull, making it appear MUCH like a LCD, hence the likely reason Panasonic dumped the AG.

AVS Forum members - spending 2 hours in BB so I don't have to...thanks! This is helpful.
post #257 of 5765
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Originally Posted by davgel2 View Post

I would be sitting as close as 3 feet as far as 6 or 8. I plan to get a ps3 sometime, but not for a while. yea the price diff between the 50px80 and the 50pz 80/85 is a lot

If you can get a 2007 1080P model, it could narrow that gap - Amazon's 50PZ77U is right now only about $150 more than the 50PX80U, with free shipping on either.
post #258 of 5765
I would appreciate Larry's settings as well...can someone who has them PM me...thanks!
post #259 of 5765
Just bought this online and should be delivered in the next week or so. Counting down the days...
post #260 of 5765
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Originally Posted by Sarcoptic View Post

I would appreciate Larry's settings as well...can someone who has them PM me...thanks!

I haven't posted any settings. Maybe Lofty, the Other Larry, has.

I tend not to because my tastes in TV pictures seem to be ... well, too realistic. That being said, my Custom mode settings are very close to bobby29's values in post #242. The major difference is that my color setting is way lower. Some think that I am weird but I like Fenway Park to look just like Fenway Park.

Right now, however, I have settled on the Cinema mode. It seems to have a gamma closest to the standard 2.2 value. (The settings for Cinema are quite different from bobby's Custom.)

EDIT: Also, I use the Warm tempature setting rather than Normal. For my old eyes, Normal seems to have too much blue.

Larry
post #261 of 5765
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Originally Posted by LarryInRI View Post

I haven't posted any settings. Maybe Lofty, the Other Larry, has.

I tend not to because my tastes in TV pictures seem to be ... well, too realistic. That being said, my Custom mode settings are very close to bobby29's values in post #242. The major difference is that my color setting is way lower. Some think that I am weird but I like Fenway Park to look just like Fenway Park.

Right now, however, I have settled on the Cinema mode. It seems to have a gamma closest to the standard 2.2 value. (The settings for Cinema are quite different from bobby's Custom.)

EDIT: Also, I use the Warm tempature setting rather than Normal. For my old eyes, Normal seems to have too much blue.

Larry


Not me, man.

I'm still holding out for one of the soon to come models. I do agree with this Larry though. My tastes run toward accuracy rather than "pop" or "Wow" or other superlatives. I don't think that will ultimately translate into what most people want to see on their TVs. Other people's settings probably won't translate well anyway due to production differences.

I also don't like nuclear greens. Lambeau Field in the midst of a snowstorm with Bret Favre having the time of his life is my ideal perfect picture. And I don't even care about football.
post #262 of 5765
After some vexations with inconvenient wall studs, I have my 50PX80U up and running...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3193/...6db3f031_b.jpg

You can see the starburst reflection off the glossy cabinet rim from the camera flash. Note how the anti-glare seems to attenuate the the flash significantly.

Wire management is still in progress. Or perhaps not since the beer is cold and the tunes are good....
post #263 of 5765
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Originally Posted by k3k3k3 View Post

After some vexations with inconvenient wall studs, I have my 50PX80U up and running...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3193/...6db3f031_b.jpg

You can see the starburst reflection off the glossy cabinet rim from the camera flash. Note how the anti-glare seems to attenuate the the flash significantly.

Wire management is still in progress. Or perhaps not since the beer is cold and the tunes are good....

Thanks for the pic...I am currently awaiting my 42px80u which is being delivered Friday. Once I move in April...I am planning on picking up the 50" version. How do you like the pq?
post #264 of 5765
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Originally Posted by rcavictor1956 View Post

Thanks for the pic...I am currently awaiting my 42px80u which is being delivered Friday. Once I move in April...I am planning on picking up the 50" version. How do you like the pq?


When I finally got the "big bastid" on the wall, the movie Crank was playing.

PQ -even with the factory standard settings- was awesome.
post #265 of 5765
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Originally Posted by bobby29 View Post

I received my 42px80u about 10 days ago and have about 80 hours on it. To answer some previous questions - yes, the remote is weak. My 36" Panny CRT that this replaced at least had a remote that could control other components. The unit is completely silent and I have yet to hear a fan kick on. The anti-reflective filter works well, as I have the set in a pretty bright room and it's way better than my old CRT as far as glare or reflections go. I'm using a Moto Comcast HD box via COMPONENT, and to my eyes, HD content looks better fed to the TV using 1080i rather than 720p. I think it shows more detail.

Now, I did the BASIC Avia display calibrations last night. When I say basic, I mean I did it pretty quick. I did watch some HD programming with the below settings and it looked pretty damn good. After I am satisfied that I have a full break-in, I will recalibrate again and a little more accurately.

Custom Mode
Picture +50
Brightness +48
Color +49
Tint -8
Sharpness +35
Color Temp NORMAL
Color Management ON
x.v color OFF
Video NR OFF
Color Matrix HD
MPEG NR OFF
Black Level LIGHT

This was calibrated through a new PS3 running the AVIA disk at 480P via HDMI. Not sure if the PS3 was upscaling it to a higher res. I still want to watch letterboxed movies and do some gaming, so I cut back on the brightness and picture after I set these. I will make tweaks to this as the month progresses and chime in here.

Overall, I think this plasma is fantastic and I'm amazed at the price that Panasonic can sell it for (especially to EPP members!).

Thanks. Please post more info when you can. That goes for anybody else with additional settings.

I'm particularly interested in audio. I find the standard audio with this tv a bit "harsh". I've played around somewhat with my tv settings, but I don't have the natural skill to find good settings.
post #266 of 5765
Just found out today that my 50PX80 did ship out this week, but I wont get it till monday or tuesday.

I was hoping to get it friday so I could have time over the weekend to set it up and teach wife how to use it and not cause burn-in. Oh well. I saved money on standard delivery.

The other day I went to BB to pick up a new surge protector. They had the 42PX80 on the wall, next to LG and Insignia plasmas. The Samsung and Pioneer were nowhere near to compare. Compared to the LG and Insig, the Panny blew them away. Most impressive was contrast and blacks, which I guess go hand in hand. When the video feed switched runs, the screens went blank for a second. The panny was a dark charcoal, noticebaly darker than the other 2, which were more medium grey. The contrast on the Panny gave the images more "depth", and was really quite significant compared to the others, which were close in price points.

It all just continues to build in my excitement to get this TV!
post #267 of 5765
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Originally Posted by xraysight View Post

Just found out today that my 50PX80 did ship out this week, but I wont get it till monday or tuesday.

I was hoping to get it friday so I could have time over the weekend to set it up and teach wife how to use it and not cause burn-in. Oh well. I saved money on standard delivery.

The other day I went to BB to pick up a new surge protector. They had the 42PX80 on the wall, next to LG and Insignia plasmas. The Samsung and Pioneer were nowhere near to compare. Compared to the LG and Insig, the Panny blew them away. Most impressive was contrast and blacks, which I guess go hand in hand. When the video feed switched runs, the screens went blank for a second. The panny was a dark charcoal, noticebaly darker than the other 2, which were more medium grey. The contrast on the Panny gave the images more "depth", and was really quite significant compared to the others, which were close in price points.

It all just continues to build in my excitement to get this TV!

What is very exciting is much of the user feedback(most has been very..very good) I have read is related to the px models. I receive my 42px80u tomorrow afternoon. TV will be running Discovery channel for my official break-in period. I plan on just letting the tv run all weekend day and night and call it broken in Monday evening. Not going to worry so much about the 100 hours or so...it will be close enough for me.
post #268 of 5765
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Originally Posted by k3k3k3 View Post

After some vexations with inconvenient wall studs, I have my 50PX80U up and running...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3193/...6db3f031_b.jpg

You can see the starburst reflection off the glossy cabinet rim from the camera flash. Note how the anti-glare seems to attenuate the the flash significantly.

Wire management is still in progress. Or perhaps not since the beer is cold and the tunes are good....


Thanks for the photo! Mine is in the "mail" and should be here on Monday! My AppleTV comes on Friday, so I am excited to see how all of my ripped content looks on the big screen!
post #269 of 5765
Do the 2008 Panasonic Viera Plasmas, Th-50PX80U for example, come with a PRINTED manual?
post #270 of 5765
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Originally Posted by slbosse View Post

AVS to the rescue! Here's where to start that search:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=109

Here's my idea. Two years ago Best Buy was closing out their ZVOX speaker system (1 speaker) at HALF price....ZVOX 315. VERY effective in that it will multiply the quality of your sound beyond your "wildest expectations". Just Google ZVOX......excellent professional reviews across the board. I got mine for 99 dollars!!! Please check back with me/us I'm sure you'll be delighted.

Good Luck!!!
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