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post #12511 of 12669
hey everyone i was thinking about buying a g20 or maybe getting my 85u isf calibrated any advice out there your help or input would be appreciated
post #12512 of 12669
Is there a way to disable overscan in the TH-42PZ85U?
post #12513 of 12669
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Originally Posted by Scallica View Post

Is there a way to disable overscan in the TH-42PZ85U?

HD Size 2 in advanced picture settings
post #12514 of 12669
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Originally Posted by Scallica View Post

Is there a way to disable overscan in the TH-42PZ85U?

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Originally Posted by PlasmaPZ80U View Post

HD Size 2 in advanced picture settings

Why would you want to disable overscan ?
Is there a benefit to it?

And how do you get to advanced settings ?
post #12515 of 12669
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Originally Posted by cj19791979 View Post

hey everyone i was thinking about buying a g20 or maybe getting my 85u isf calibrated any advice out there your help or input would be appreciated

I would personally wait for the next gen Panny's (if you are wanting a Panny) to see if the black level issue (erm..feature) is fixed.
post #12516 of 12669
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Originally Posted by JCBoomer View Post

I would personally wait for the next gen Panny's (if you are wanting a Panny) to see if the black level issue (erm..feature) is fixed.

If you are going to do that , you may as well get a 3D television.
post #12517 of 12669
Tis may be a weird question, but apparently my pz85 should have a pixel orbiter function, but i cannot find any such option in any of the menus.
post #12518 of 12669
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Originally Posted by Raymond42262 View Post

Why would you want to disable overscan ?
Is there a benefit to it?

And how do you get to advanced settings ?

(1) to see the whole picture and (2) to get 1:1 pixel mapping

To get to advanced scroll to the bottom of picture settings and select advanced settings.
post #12519 of 12669
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Originally Posted by Dreassic View Post

Tis may be a weird question, but apparently my pz85 should have a pixel orbiter function, but i cannot find any such option in any of the menus.

under setup, anti-image retention, pixel orbiter
post #12520 of 12669
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Originally Posted by PlasmaPZ80U View Post

under setup, anti-image retention, pixel orbiter


Thats the weird thing, no such option exists there.
post #12521 of 12669
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Originally Posted by PlasmaPZ80U View Post

HD Size 2 in advanced picture settings

Thank you, it worked perfectly!
post #12522 of 12669
does anyone know what size the holes are in the back of the flat panel and what size screws fit those holes? I was told 8mm but that is not correct.
post #12523 of 12669
I recently added a 2nd HD TV in my office (Sony Bravia 22EX308). I added a 1x2 HDMI splitter from Monoprice between my 50PZ80U and Tivo HD so that I could watch my Tivo in both places. For the most part things work well, but it seems like after about 2 days I lose audio for any HD content on the Panasonic TV (Sony has been fine so far). To get it to work again I have to power down the Panasonic and the splitter. I've ordered another brand of splitter that is labeled as HDCP 1.2 compliant hoping that it solves the problem. Wondering if any others have experience with HDMI splitters going to your Pannasonic and if you see any handshake type problems like this?
post #12524 of 12669
Hi all,
I really hope someoNe can offer some advice.

I have had the 46pz85B for some time now and generally very happy. However, i cannot shake the feeling that cinema mode is somewhat off. I have had the set calibrated and everything set so that in cinema mode the default settings are accurate. However, when using it, the picture lacks punch. It's almost as if it's a bit too airy/'washed out.' this goes away if I turn down the brightness but of course then I lose detail.

Swithing to normal mode makes th picture alot punchier, but loses detail. Is cinema meant to be like this, am I going mad etc? Should cinema only be used in low light conditions?

Apprecite your help.

James
post #12525 of 12669
So no one has any ideo why my 42PZ85E has no pixel orbiter options??
post #12526 of 12669
Dreassic, my answer is the same as PlasmaPZ80U. I also own the PZ80U. We own the model for the U.S.A. market. What market do you reside in?
post #12527 of 12669
As you can see in the post, the E model, thus Europe. But that should not make a difference, this is about a vital feature, a pixel orbiter.
I know of other, less important features, differing in models from different countries/regions, but one would think a pixel orbiter would be in ANY model.
post #12528 of 12669
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Originally Posted by JamesP1701 View Post

Hi all,
I really hope someoNe can offer some advice.

I have had the 46pz85B for some time now and generally very happy. However, i cannot shake the feeling that cinema mode is somewhat off. I have had the set calibrated and everything set so that in cinema mode the default settings are accurate. However, when using it, the picture lacks punch. It's almost as if it's a bit too airy/'washed out.' this goes away if I turn down the brightness but of course then I lose detail.

Swithing to normal mode makes th picture alot punchier, but loses detail. Is cinema meant to be like this, am I going mad etc? Should cinema only be used in low light conditions?

Apprecite your help.

James


The problem with Cinema mode on 2008 models is the gamma (midrange brightness) is set wrong. The picture probably looks as if someone has jacked the brightness up too high causing the image to look flat and 2 dimensional. This is essentially what you are correcting by lowing the brightness, but as you've said it's not a solution because doing so will crush blacks.

Some of the 2009 models can now achieve the correct gamma curve via an advanced picture menu and this makes all the difference in the world. I've just upgraded from a PX80 to an S10 with the gamma control unlocked and I can tell you the difference it makes is truly astounding. With the gamma corrected, images now look 3 dimensional and realistic. The picture now seems as though you are looking out a window.

I'm struggling to understand why Panasonic would not set their TV's to the correct 2.2 gamma setting by default from the factory. It clearly looks superior to any other gamma setting. Everyone I've shown the S10 to agrees at how nice 2.2 gamma looks.
post #12529 of 12669
Yes that's it exactly. Quite why my calibrator didn't pick that up I don't know. Is there a way of going into the service menu to adjust gamma?
post #12530 of 12669
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Originally Posted by JamesP1701 View Post

Is there a way of going into the service menu to adjust gamma?

Not on 2008 models I'm afraid. I've spent many hours trying to correct gamma on my PX80A, but to no avail. If you want realistic images you'll have to get a 2009/2010 model.
post #12531 of 12669
By the way, the reason Normal mode looks punchier is because the gamma in that mode is set to S-curve. But that isn't correct either and gives an artificial look.
post #12532 of 12669
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Originally Posted by sonic_blue View Post

Not on 2008 models I'm afraid. I've spent many hours trying to correct gamma on my PX80A, but to no avail. If you want realistic images you'll have to get a 2009/2010 model.

I feel very ripped off and annoyed now!
post #12533 of 12669
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Originally Posted by JamesP1701 View Post

I feel very ripped off and annoyed now!

By Panasonic or the calibrator?
post #12534 of 12669
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Originally Posted by sonic_blue View Post

By Panasonic or the calibrator?

Bit by both to be honest!
post #12535 of 12669
What I can't understand is why so many people are raving about this mode. It is really bad to me.
post #12536 of 12669
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Originally Posted by JamesP1701 View Post

What I can't understand is why so many people are raving about this mode. It is really bad to me.

Yes I know the feeling, I tried to force myself to use Cinema mode on the PX80 for nearly a year, but it's just no good. I actually found it fatiguing to watch because there is not enough variation of light and dark in the midrange, so your eyes have nothing to "latch onto". I then switched to Normal and enjoyed that for a while but then became annoyed with the caked on makeup look and crushed whites that the S-curve gamma was producing. Actually the Normal mode is a lot nastier on the PX than the PZ , so you may find Normal mode better on your PZ.

But still, none of it compares to the correct gamma.
post #12537 of 12669
Is the s10 sognifcantly inferior to the g10?
post #12538 of 12669
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Originally Posted by JamesP1701 View Post

Is the s10 sognifcantly inferior to the g10?

I wouldn't say so. The only real difference between the two is the G10 has the newer "neo-pdp" panel which enables it to go brighter for less electricity. Apart from that the basic picture qualities such as black level , colour accuracy and motion resolution are the same. Be aware though that you have to do a hack to unlock the gamma control.
post #12539 of 12669
Of course the problem now is selling my pz85 and affording a new one!
post #12540 of 12669
Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesP1701 View Post

Hi all,
I really hope someoNe can offer some advice.

I have had the 46pz85B for some time now and generally very happy. However, i cannot shake the feeling that cinema mode is somewhat off. I have had the set calibrated and everything set so that in cinema mode the default settings are accurate. However, when using it, the picture lacks punch. It's almost as if it's a bit too airy/'washed out.' this goes away if I turn down the brightness but of course then I lose detail.

Swithing to normal mode makes th picture alot punchier, but loses detail. Is cinema meant to be like this, am I going mad etc? Should cinema only be used in low light conditions?

Apprecite your help.

James


Try your CINEMA setting in the CUSTOM mode. CUSTOM looks "clearer" than CINEMA on my PZ85U.
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