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post #1741 of 12670
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Originally Posted by TomHuffman View Post

That is EXACTLY what I meant "a few of the darkest scenes." You can always cherry pick scenes or test patterns as a way of showing how important stratospheric on/off CR is. It has limited implications for the vast majority of real program material.

Darkest scenes? Here is a good list movies and shows to compare black levels:

Movies
Sin City
300
Doom
Underworld
Tansformers
2001
Fight Club
World Trade Center
LOTR (2 and 3)

TV Shows
Law and Order
CSI NY
CSI LV
Cold Case
Without a Trace
BSG
Stargate Atlantis


Let me know if you need more material
post #1742 of 12670
just a bump for all those you purchased from cc, the price online dropped again.
post #1743 of 12670
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Originally Posted by lemarjo View Post

It looks like I'm not the only one that has the white line on the right had side sometimes when I have the size on 2 instead of 1.

It drives me nights because I just find myself staring at it and wondering if I'm going to have IR. Not that IR's a big deal since it will go away.

It just bugs me seeing it so I mostly have my size set on 1.

Any way to get right of it?

From what I can tell, this is purely dependent on the channel you are watching. From the OTA I receive, some channels I can watch on 2, others have lines or junk on the sides/top/bottom of the picture. Without looking it up, I've read that sometimes that is put there for a reason by the stations. It would have been nice to have some adjustments between 95 and 100%, but size 1 works well enough to remove the junk on the edges.

spiderjericho, I believe the last picture setting Tom posted was 60.
post #1744 of 12670
Is custom mode only for the first page settings in the Picture menu?
When I change the settings Size 1 or Size 2, it is not retained per setting, it just stays the same across all settings, is this by design?
I would like to keep Size 1 (95%) for my TV stuff and Size 2 (100%) for my PC stuff, it is a hassle to change it every time I change inputs.
post #1745 of 12670
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Originally Posted by Willis52 View Post

Why on the Panasonic website it say to put your picture setting at +0 for the break-in period? wouldnt that be too low?

I thought it says to keep it at 50 ?
post #1746 of 12670
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Originally Posted by deshmukhn View Post

I saw 85u in BB today. I was setup next to Sammy A650 and A550. This forum has led me to believe that plasma's black are better than any lcd, today I could not see that. Maybe it was the store lighting or the sets were not calibrated correctly, but sammy A650's black were definitely better than 85u. 85u black looked more gray/green. A650 (or even A550) looked better to me with all in standard mode.

I actually returned a Samsung A650 for the PZ85U (had to order it, picking it up today) and would not recommend the A650 for its price. Just like 71 series, artificating, TBE/TCE, Aura/Vapors, stuttering, etc is noticeable, though not as severe, with the 120hz setting on. Additionally, the A650 randomly turns itself on and off. Apparently there is a firmware upgrade fixing the random shut offs, but causes the Auto Motion feature to "stick" and become unadjustable as well as increase stutter. Posters hope that another firmware update (fixing the first firmware update ) will be available soon. This is described in greater detail on the LNxxA650 official owners thread. I am VERY happy I returned mine, and hopefully will happy with the PZ85U
post #1747 of 12670
i got my pz80u last night....ran it for about 7 hours with some full screen content. Turned it on this morning and the buzzing seems louder...is this notmal?
post #1748 of 12670
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Originally Posted by feds27 View Post

....I never said they were good photos. I rushed, handheld, no bounce flash.

Note, the bezel has a slight curve as it nears the left and right edges. I tried to show that in these photos. More pics to follow...


the refectivity of the screen is mind obggling. Aren't they supposed to come with "new and improved anti reflective" coating?
post #1749 of 12670
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Originally Posted by David Susilo View Post

the refectivity of the screen is mind obggling. Aren't they supposed to come with "new and improved anti reflective" coating?

Some people. Its freaking GLASS, only so much can be done.

If you put a glass screen facing a window, youre going to get reflections. I have my 50" facing a wall, to the right of the tv(15 ft) are two large windows, an exterior glass door, and then 4 small windows. I have no issues in mid day watching this tv. Its much better than the plasma I had 3-4 years ago
post #1750 of 12670
I've bought various glass for photo framing but they are not THAT reflective. So material has nothing to do with the reflectivity.

what material do they use for the 77 model? the anti glare on that model is pretty much close to LCD. Do they use plastic for that?
post #1751 of 12670
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Originally Posted by ElwayLite View Post

Some people. Its freaking GLASS, only so much can be done.

If you put a glass screen facing a window, youre going to get reflections. I have my 50" facing a wall, to the right of the tv(15 ft) are two large windows, an exterior glass door, and then 4 small windows. I have no issues in mid day watching this tv. Its much better than the plasma I had 3-4 years ago

Agreed. I have no issues during the day watching this TV with 3 windows on the side wall and an exterior door next to my couch. Sure, if I go over to my computer at a very wide angle I get more, but in my normal viewing location it's just not even close to an issue.
post #1752 of 12670
For me, the anti-reflective coating is working great, but as I mentioned earlier when this was brought up, I came from a CRT Tube TV. We can watch TV in the day with lights on and don't experience any washout, and have few reflections, but they can occasionally be seen on dark scenes. The light from outside sources is diffused, but still visible with the TV off. It is not the same as an LCD or the 77U. I guess it could be better, but think for most circumstances it will work fine.
post #1753 of 12670
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Originally Posted by JCBoomer View Post

For me, the anti-reflective coating is working great, but as I mentioned earlier when this was brought up, I came from a CRT Tube TV. We can watch TV in the day with lights on and don't experience any washout, and have few reflections, but they can occasionally be seen on dark scenes. The light from outside sources is diffused, but still visible with the TV off. It is not the same as an LCD or the 77U. I guess it could be better, but think for most circumstances it will work fine.

Thank you for the informative answer (as opposed to "it's freakin' glass" when the material has nothing to do with it). I'm still waiting for the 800 to be released.
post #1754 of 12670
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Originally Posted by David Susilo View Post

Thank you for the informative answer (as opposed to "it's freakin' glass" when the material has nothing to do with it). I'm still waiting for the 800 to be released.

Sorry, took complaint frustration out on you.

Its just that one type of technology does not make everyone happy, then neither does the second.

If Im not mistaken, all 2008 just have the AR filter so not much we can do about it. I do feel that someone who potentially has a window behind them should not buy a plasma unless the reflection does not bother them.
post #1755 of 12670
my watching area has an open back where I see light from all around. As long as it's not "clear as mirror" (or as reflective as my Sony RPTV surface) then it should be okay.
post #1756 of 12670
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Originally Posted by David Susilo View Post

my watching area has an open back where I see light from all around. As long as it's not "clear as mirror" (or as reflective as my Sony RPTV surface) then it should be okay.


I dont think its near the RPTV surface. Good thing is, you can bring it home and try it out, if you dont feel its for you you can take it back. Unless your ordering online then thats a seperate problem.

When I do see a reflection during the day, its only in the very black areas of the screen. My older plasme showed them over the colors too, but I had two windows directly behind me.
post #1757 of 12670
Speaking of the new AR screen,

Anyone have any smears on the screen? I went with the soft cloth and water for a wipe down, there is smudge mark in the upper left corner that does not seem to come off. It can only be seen when the tv is off and Im not sure if it was there before or not.

I wondering if I did not allow the screen to cool before wiping it and it dried too fast before I could move a dry cloth over the area. Every spray windex on a car window on a warm day, then notice the streaks later because it dried too fast? Thats what this looks like, but I dont want to get too crazy with trying to clean it because Im not aware of the ins and outs of the new AR screen.
post #1758 of 12670
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Originally Posted by ElwayLite View Post

I dont think its near the RPTV surface. Good thing is, you can bring it home and try it out, if you dont feel its for you you can take it back. Unless your ordering online then thats a seperate problem.

When I do see a reflection during the day, its only in the very black areas of the screen. My older plasme showed them over the colors too, but I had two windows directly behind me.

I'll be buying my TV from an independent store that doesn't have return policy (but their price, after taxes, will approximately be $400 cheaper than the big boxes in Canada). However, as you say, if the reflectivity is less than RPTV, then it shouldn't pose any problem with me.

Another question, ElwayLite, do Plasmas have size problem? What I mean to say is that I find that any LCD starting 46" and larger tend to have less colour accuracy, worse viewing angle than the 42" or smaller sizes.
post #1759 of 12670
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Originally Posted by David Susilo View Post

I'll be buying my TV from an independent store that doesn't have return policy (but their price, after taxes, will approximately be $400 cheaper than the big boxes in Canada). However, as you say, if the reflectivity is less than RPTV, then it shouldn't pose any problem with me.

Another question, ElwayLite, do Plasmas have size problem? What I mean to say is that I find that any LCD starting 46" and larger tend to have less colour accuracy, worse viewing angle than the 42" or smaller sizes.

I cannot answer that. Ive only owned a 42" amd 50" plasma along with a 46" lcd rptv. I do know that I can stand almost sideways of the 50" and still watch just fine. When I sat on my couch to see the view visitors would have(about 60-70 degrees), it looked great(other than the crazy angle )
post #1760 of 12670
Hey Guys,

When I first received my PZ85 (about 2 weeks ago) I noticed that there was some noise around the picture when watching one network HD channel (perhaps NBC) but there was no noise around the picture when watching ABC and CBS.

The owners manual suggested changing the HD Zoom Size (if I remember correctly) to size 2 vs. size 1. This slightly enlarged the picture and hid the noise. However, when I watch other stations (ABC and CBS) the picture is now too big for the screen (i.e. I am losing picture on the sides and the top of the screen)

The problem is, when I go to the Menu -> Picture Settings the HD Zoom feature is now greyed out. Can someone tell me how to get access to this option and / or why it is greyed out?

(Note, I am refering to the HD Size option in the menu, not the size options that the set cycles through when pressing the "Format" button.)

Thanks in advance.
post #1761 of 12670
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Originally Posted by madman300 View Post

Hey Guys,

When I first received my PZ85 (about 2 weeks ago) I noticed that there was some noise around the picture when watching one network HD channel (perhaps NBC) but there was no noise around the picture when watching ABC and CBS.

The owners manual suggested changing the HD Zoom Size (if I remember correctly) to size 2 vs. size 1. This slightly enlarged the picture and hid the noise. However, when I watch other stations (ABC and CBS) the picture is now too big for the screen (i.e. I am losing picture on the sides and the top of the screen)

The problem is, when I go to the Menu -> Picture Settings the HD Zoom feature is now greyed out. Can someone tell me how to get access to this option and / or why it is greyed out?

(Note, I am refering to the HD Size option in the menu, not the size options that the set cycles through when pressing the "Format" button.)

Thanks in advance.

This setting is available in 1080i/p, I noticed that it was greyed out when testing it on 720p.

Try to force your STB to output 1080i for all HD channels then you will be able to change it.
post #1762 of 12670
Im using "Full" and size 2 with no issue onscreen. Ive noticed the size feature grayed out at times so Im not sure why. What mode are you using, Ive found anything but Cinema adds noise.
post #1763 of 12670
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Originally Posted by madman300 View Post

Hey Guys,

When I first received my PZ85 (about 2 weeks ago) I noticed that there was some noise around the picture when watching one network HD channel (perhaps NBC) but there was no noise around the picture when watching ABC and CBS.

The owners manual suggested changing the HD Zoom Size (if I remember correctly) to size 2 vs. size 1. This slightly enlarged the picture and hid the noise. However, when I watch other stations (ABC and CBS) the picture is now too big for the screen (i.e. I am losing picture on the sides and the top of the screen)

The problem is, when I go to the Menu -> Picture Settings the HD Zoom feature is now greyed out. Can someone tell me how to get access to this option and / or why it is greyed out?

(Note, I am refering to the HD Size option in the menu, not the size options that the set cycles through when pressing the "Format" button.)

Thanks in advance.

It's my understanding that this option is only available for 1080 signals but the setting sticks after you change to a channel with another format. Switch over to NBC or something else in 1080 and it should be available again.
post #1764 of 12670
Also, the noise you see could be just NBC. Ive noticed they have some of the noisiest OTA feeds out there.
post #1765 of 12670
No one knows if you can adjust red push in the service menu and the steps to do this? This is the only issue I have with my 50pz85u and I would love to adjust it.
post #1766 of 12670
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Originally Posted by iatacs19 View Post

This setting is available in 1080i/p, I noticed that it was greyed out when testing it on 720p.

Try to force your STB to output 1080i for all HD channels then you will be able to change it.


That is too bad as I do not have cable but am only watching the signals over the air.

I will have to boot up the computer and display a 1080 signal. Can anyone explain the logic behind this?
post #1767 of 12670
I ordered my 50pz85U on March 31st from Amazon and am still waiting to get my set. The set sat in Reno for a couple days, then in Sacremento, now in Chicago. CEVA says on their website they called for a delivery but we've never received any call.

Anyone else waiting for their set to arrive?
post #1768 of 12670
Does anyone know if there is a way to make the SD card reader on the set be able to play the movies newer cameras/camcorders can record? It is pretty cool using the TV as a 50" digital picture frame, but it would be even better if you could watch the movie clips as well.
post #1769 of 12670
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Originally Posted by madman300 View Post

That is too bad as I do not have cable but am only watching the signals over the air.

I will have to boot up the computer and display a 1080 signal. Can anyone explain the logic behind this?

Switch to a channel that broadcasts in 1080i and you should be able to switch it.
post #1770 of 12670
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Originally Posted by edwardsd24 View Post

I ordered my 50pz85U on March 31st from Amazon and am still waiting to get my set. The set sat in Reno for a couple days, then in Sacremento, now in Chicago. CEVA says on their website they called for a delivery but we've never received any call.

Anyone else waiting for their set to arrive?

I know its not a matter of units being in stock at Panasonic. I would call the shipper and ask when they can deliver, delivery should be 5-7 bus days max. Sometimes communication errors happen between warehouse and dispatch.
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