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post #421 of 12670
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Originally Posted by Footbaggin View Post

It's not the same. I can't find it anywhere.

Huh, well the information will come from somewhere I'm sure. At this point, I just wanted to use it to count my break-in hours.
post #422 of 12670
Just received my 50pz85u.

First impressions.
This is an incredible TV. PQ is great, features are nice, and the design is very sleek (Not nearly as wide as last years 50 inch models). Overall extremely happy with this purchase. NO dead pixels that I can see.

In regard to some of the issues addressed in this forum, I have seen no phosphor trails (even when I hooked up a wii), the blacks are pretty goddamned black (I have not played with the settings yet/ and also have no comparison point in the home), and the anti reflect screen is very good. There is some reflection, but nothing that has forced me to change the lighting in my extremely bright living room.

I do not consider myself a videophile. Personally, when using this site to research my purchase, I read a lot of complaints about the little things with the TV. For example, people were complaining about a buzz coming from the back of the TV. Yes, when I stand behind the TV and place my ear near the TV I can hear a faint buzz. Given the size of the contraption I just added to my livingroom, I would think it was weird if it was whisper quiet. For those of you considering the set, rest assured that you cannot hear any noises when actually watching the TV. This is not a concern (at least not on the set I received). So, for those in the non videophile boat, I will offer this - You will be very, very happy with this television. I damn near jumped out of my skin when I ran the Matrix Reloaded highway fight scene (in HD). Absolutely incredible. And, I dont yet have a blue ray player. I can only imagine how good that will look. Still early, so I will repost if necessary, but I dont anticipate that.
post #423 of 12670
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Originally Posted by Purpose View Post

Just received my 50pz85u.

First impressions.
This is an incredible TV. PQ is great, features are nice, and the design is very sleek (Not nearly as wide as last years 50 inch models). Overall extremely happy with this purchase. NO dead pixels that I can see.

In regard to some of the issues addressed in this forum, I have seen no phosphor trails (even when I hooked up a wii), the blacks are pretty goddamned black (I have not played with the settings yet/ and also have no comparison point in the home), and the anti reflect screen is very good. There is some reflection, but nothing that has forced me to change the lighting in my extremely bright living room.

I do not consider myself a videophile. Personally, when using this site to research my purchase, I read a lot of complaints about the little things with the TV. For example, people were complaining about a buzz coming from the back of the TV. Yes, when I stand behind the TV and place my ear near the TV I can hear a faint buzz. Given the size of the contraption I just added to my livingroom, I would think it was weird if it was whisper quiet. For those of you considering the set, rest assured that you cannot hear any noises when actually watching the TV. This is not a concern (at least not on the set I received). So, for those in the non audiophile boat, I will offer this - You will be very, very happy with this television. I damn near jumped out of my skin when I ran the Matrix Reloaded highway fight scene (in HD). Absolutely incredible. And, I dont yet have a blue ray player. I can only imagine how good that will look. Still early, so I will repost if necessary, but I dont anticipate that.

That is great that you like it so much and that there is no problems with it. Any pictures of it for us to see.
post #424 of 12670
A question to the happy owners of this new generation of panasonics...

Im a unhappy pio8G owner that is having problem with a buzzing tv. If you have som hours to kill please read:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=949003

I just wonder, in a room with no ambient noise (and I mean no noise lite airconditioner/fridge etc) can these plasmas be heard from 9-10 feet?

My pio emits a sound lika an electrical shaver that is strongest in the middle of the tv (the sound is actually coming from the glass itself) and its killing me. When watching e.g. the news there is always an irritating hum in the background that never goes away. So if these are silent then Ill sell my pio, take the loss like a happy camper and buy a panasonic.
post #425 of 12670
Here are a couple, I will try to take some additional photos later. Not great photos, just a regular canon power shot

In the second photo, I think you can see the quality of the PQ in the smoke (the varying levels of black/ gray).

Hope these help.
LL
LL
post #426 of 12670
^ Looks great!!

Can't wait. I get mine tomorrow between 1 and 5pm....looking forward to it...will post pictures and my non-technical review.....
post #427 of 12670
Can anyone tell me if the height of the the TV advertised are all that accurate? Anyone have a tape measure? I think they are supposed to be as:
42PZ - 28.3"
46PZ - 31"
50PZ - 32.8"

The enclosure that I'm needing to stick it is 32" so I'm wanting to get the 46PZ.

Also, I'm going to have huge glare issues in my room i believe. The enclosure is right above my fireplace, and the angle is such that it bounces back the overhead room light. Could anyone take a picture that would simulate that type of glare in a dark scene taken in the room at night so i can get a judgment of how bad that will be. TIA.

I'm really thinking I may have to go with the 77 series because of this, which would limit me to the 42" TV :-(
post #428 of 12670
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Originally Posted by wicketr View Post

Can anyone tell me if the height of the the TV advertised are all that accurate? Anyone have a tape measure? I think they are supposed to be as:
42PZ - 28.3"
46PZ - 31"
50PZ - 32.8"

The enclosure that I'm needing to stick it is 32" so I'm wanting to get the 46PZ.

Also, I'm going to have huge glare issues in my room i believe. The enclosure is right above my fireplace, and the angle is such that it bounces back the overhead room light. Could anyone take a picture that would simulate that type of glare in a dark scene taken in the room at night so i can get a judgment of how bad that will be. TIA.

I'm really thinking I may have to go with the 77 series because of this, which would limit me to the 42" TV :-(

No way you fit the 50pz with the stand.

Well over 32.

And, although I have no way to create the fireplace situation, I am pleasantly surprised with the screen. My Set is less than 5 feet away from, and perpendicular to 3 fairly large NYC apartment windows. The key factor is that the windows are together in one large cut out of the wall (about 7 and 1/2 feet of window. the screen has stood up to that reasonably well.
post #429 of 12670
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Originally Posted by goblin wizard View Post

A question to the happy owners of this new generation of panasonics...

Im a unhappy pio8G owner that is having problem with a buzzing tv. If you have som hours to kill please read:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=949003

I just wonder, in a room with no ambient noise (and I mean no noise lite airconditioner/fridge etc) can these plasmas be heard from 9-10 feet?

My pio emits a sound lika an electrical shaver that is strongest in the middle of the tv (the sound is actually coming from the glass itself) and its killing me. When watching e.g. the news there is always an irritating hum in the background that never goes away. So if these are silent then Ill sell my pio, take the loss like a happy camper and buy a panasonic.

It is only day one, so take this as you will.
And, I should point out that I live in NYC, so there may be a marked difference in terms of how we define quiet.

If I mute my sound system, and sit on the couch (relatively still), and focus on the TV, I can barely here a small buzzing sound. Sounds nothing like a razor though. Sounds like the small fans on the back of the TV. With any movement, or sound (from the TV audio or otherwise), the sound is imperceptible to me.
post #430 of 12670
hey purpose, sweet pics. was wondering if you could post some pics of your wii playing on the tv. i'd love to see those cartooney mario colors and see how they come out. thanks bro, enjoy that tv!
post #431 of 12670
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Originally Posted by Purpose View Post

No way you fit the 50pz with the stand.

Well over 32.

And, although I have no way to create the fireplace situation, I am pleasantly surprised with the screen. My Set is less than 5 feet away from, and perpendicular to 3 fairly large NYC apartment windows. The key factor is that the windows are together in one large cut out of the wall (about 7 and 1/2 feet of window. the screen has stood up to that reasonably well.

Those number are supposed to be WITH the stand.

And maybe you wouldn't mind sitting directly facing the TV with a lamp next to you (shade off) as an alternative?

One pic with the TV off
One pic with the TV on and a bright scene on it
One pic with the TV on with a dark scene on it

Por favor?
post #432 of 12670
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Originally Posted by wicketr View Post

Those number are supposed to be WITH the stand.

And maybe you wouldn't mind sitting directly facing the TV with a lamp next to you (shade off) as an alternative?

One pic with the TV off
One pic with the TV on and a bright scene on it
One pic with the TV on with a dark scene on it

Por favor?

That was with the stand. Almost 33 high. Just said well over because you were trying to get it into a 32 inch hole. with the stand, wouldn't happen. Are you talking without the stand? w/o you could get it into a 32 hole. A little harder to measure because the speakers are now underneath the screen and recessed, but it is less than 32.

I will try to do the pics later tonight.
post #433 of 12670
I got my new 46z85u about an hour ago. I have fell victim to another broken PDP. It looks like something dropped on the corner becouse the corner of the bezle is broke and the glass is broke. They can't send me out a new one until 4-1. I am not happy. I am going to upgrade to a 50" to try and make myself fell better though. I WILL also be hear at my house for the next delivery to make sure all is good.
post #434 of 12670
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Originally Posted by goblin wizard View Post

A question to the happy owners of this new generation of panasonics...

Im a unhappy pio8G owner that is having problem with a buzzing tv. If you have som hours to kill please read:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=949003

I just wonder, in a room with no ambient noise (and I mean no noise lite airconditioner/fridge etc) can these plasmas be heard from 9-10 feet?

My pio emits a sound lika an electrical shaver that is strongest in the middle of the tv (the sound is actually coming from the glass itself) and its killing me. When watching e.g. the news there is always an irritating hum in the background that never goes away. So if these are silent then Ill sell my pio, take the loss like a happy camper and buy a panasonic.

I had a Pio 5050 with the media receiver and built a box in my entertainment center to help cover up the noise it made. Since I am bothered by such things I sat in my silent media room with the 42pz85u on mute and turned on and off the unit to see what sound it made. You can hear the unit come on and make a little noise then it goes basically silent from viewing distance. I have to be right next to the unit to hear it.
post #435 of 12670
Ok, so I got to see a 46pz85U tonight @CC.
They had a BD player hooked to it, but it wouldn't put out 1080p for some reason.
So uncalibrated @1080i...
I have been reading about this display for some time, but even seeing it in this raw state I was very impressed and made up my mind right there. I would never buy it there, but as soon as I can get a decent buy on it I am in.


MY ONLY question remaining is this. I may want to get the 80U if I can score it cheaper, are there any real differences between this and the 85U besides the ones listed on panny's site?

They list the contrast as 20000:1 vs the 85U's 30000:1, does this mean they don't have the same screen? Because I saw the 85U I would be really bummed if the 80U was somehow not as nice.

I don't really care about PC in, and that seems like the only other difference, would I make a mistake getting the 80U?

Thanks all!
post #436 of 12670
I talked to 2 separate Panasonic reps and they said the only differences were the following: 1. 30000:1 CR vs. 20000:1 CR; 2. Computer inputs; 3. Different bezel (85u looks better in my opinion); 4. 3rd HDMI input locations (front for 80u, side for 85u).

According to them, everything else is exactly the same. One said that since the contrast ratios were so high that the differences were negligible, the other thought that you may notice a minor difference in a dark room and your eyes are really good. Take it for what it's worth. I am debating the same issue.

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Originally Posted by stickboy2k View Post

Ok, so I got to see a 46pz85U tonight @CC.
They had a BD player hooked to it, but it wouldn't put out 1080p for some reason.
So uncalibrated @1080i...
I have been reading about this display for some time, but even seeing it in this raw state I was very impressed and made up my mind right there. I would never buy it there, but as soon as I can get a decent buy on it I am in.


MY ONLY question remaining is this. I may want to get the 80U if I can score it cheaper, are there any real differences between this and the 85U besides the ones listed on panny's site?

They list the contrast as 20000:1 vs the 85U's 30000:1, does this mean they don't have the same screen? Because I saw the 85U I would be really bummed if the 80U was somehow not as nice.

I don't really care about PC in, and that seems like the only other difference, would I make a mistake getting the 80U?

Thanks all!
post #437 of 12670
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

When Pioneer buys there panels from Panasonic >>>> Quite obvious who is winning.

If only the consumer could win.
post #438 of 12670
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Originally Posted by lemarjo View Post

My Z85 just arrived and my wife doesn't like it on the TV stand and wants it mounted on the wall.

What's a recommended wall mount and where's the cheapest place to buy it from?

this is the one I am looking to get - http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

or this one - http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...=2#description

am concerned that the low profile one may not have enough room in the back for the cables to "bend". may probably need this even on the other one - http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2
post #439 of 12670
Hey, i was wondering what you guys think of the pz85u vs the pz700u? need help deciding which one to get, thanks
post #440 of 12670
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Originally Posted by speeeedy View Post

I got my new 46z85u about an hour ago. I have fell victim to another broken PDP. It looks like something dropped on the corner becouse the corner of the bezle is broke and the glass is broke. They can't send me out a new one until 4-1. I am not happy. I am going to upgrade to a 50" to try and make myself fell better though. I WILL also be hear at my house for the next delivery to make sure all is good.

Oh wow. Sorry to hear that. That's a fear of mine. I'll be nervous until our set arrives Monday and I get the box open.
post #441 of 12670
Wow. sorry to hear that as well.

Just got mine and in looking at the box, not quite sure how that would happen. box is huge. glad to hear a replacement is on the way. Albeit slowly.
post #442 of 12670
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Originally Posted by halo411 View Post

Hey, i was wondering what you guys think of the pz85u vs the pz700u? need help deciding which one to get, thanks

Hi halo41,

I actually had the same question in another thread: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1006674
My post was #53. There were a few responses. Hope you get more.
post #443 of 12670
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Originally Posted by halo411 View Post

Hey, i was wondering what you guys think of the pz85u vs the pz700u? need help deciding which one to get, thanks

Well the 85u is newer and better in every way, so......
post #444 of 12670
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Originally Posted by NathanC View Post

Well the 85u is newer and better in every way, so......

Agreed. Definitely 85u.
post #445 of 12670
Hi guys, I just pulled the trigger on the 46" can't wait to receive it! I had a few questions not necessarily about this model but I guess more plasma in general. I'm getting my set from J&R since they are the only reliable delealer that ships to Canada at a decent price. I'd get it locally but we're usually behind releases of new products so I'd rather not wait around a few months. Now, I've heard that plasmas can only be transported in an upright (standing up) position, how dangerous is it to order something like this via UPS? If anyone has had experience good or bad I'd like to know. Another thing that kinda bothered me is hearing that plasmas don't do a full 1080p, only 1100x1080 or something like that, is that true? If so how does it affect the picture? Sorry for the newbie questions, just a little anxious I guess
post #446 of 12670
In Sweden we will probably have to pay more than $3300 for the 46PZ85... It's unfair.... And we still have to wait at least three more weeks for it to show up in the shops here...
post #447 of 12670
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Originally Posted by marka971 View Post

In Sweden we will probably have to pay more than $3300 for the 46PZ85... It's unfair.... And we still have to wait at least three more weeks for it to show up in the shops here...

yea but you aren't getting the same set. euro sets usually have more features. for e.g. the euro px80u has 24p cinematic playback according to the UK (htdvtest?) review that was posted unlike the US one. also last year's 700s in europe did a lot more formats than the US one. i'll try to find the post with details....but i still love how amazingly cheap our sets are compared to you guys
post #448 of 12670
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Originally Posted by am777 View Post

yea but you aren't getting the same set. euro sets usually have more features. for e.g. the euro px80u has 24p cinematic playback according to the UK (htdvtest?) review that was posted unlike the US one. also last year's 700s in europe did a lot more formats than the US one. i'll try to find the post with details....but i still love how amazingly cheap our sets are compared to you guys

well, let's hope the differences are big enough to make it worth paying almost twice the price you americans pay for it... and for some reason we don't get the 50" model here...

markus
post #449 of 12670
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Originally Posted by marka971 View Post

In Sweden we will probably have to pay more than $3300 for the 46PZ85... It's unfair.... And we still have to wait at least three more weeks for it to show up in the shops here...

We still end up getting scewed on brokerage, it's still going to cost me nearly $500 just to get it into the country. Amazingly even after addiding shipping and brokerage to the final cost it comes out way cheaper than in Canada, at least traditionally speaking with Panasonic electronics and most other companies.
post #450 of 12670
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Originally Posted by marka971 View Post

well, let's hope the differences are big enough to make it worth paying almost twice the price you americans pay for it... and for some reason we don't get the 50" model here...

markus

oh, its not worth twice imho you guys have my sympathies.....

here's the post about the 700....

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Originally Posted by jazzyjez View Post

I don't have a 24Hz source, but out of curiosity I did try a 50Hz one, i.e. a 576i PAL signal upconverted via my receiver to 1080i/50, and that failed on my 700u. I was not entirely surprised by this as the US specs, as is often the case, are downgraded from the European ones...

The really annoying thing is that the panel and its core electronics are substantially the same - sure, there are some differences such as the tuners - but it seems that many features the set is capable of are actually masked out in the US models. Now I don't expect a US model set to handle PAL - although it should, since all euro models also handle NTSC - but I really thought it would have taken the upconverted digital signal.

From their respective US and UK web sites for the PZ700 series you can see that the US model is severely hobbled! And their version does purport to handle 24p - even if not in true native mode.

US version
Receiving Systems: ATSC/QAM/NTSC
Formats: 1080p/1080i/720p/480p

UK/Euro version
Receiving Systems: PAL -I, DVB; AV-NTSC: PAL-525/60, NTSC, M-NTSC
Formats: 525 (480)/60i, 525 (480)/60p, 625(576)/50i, 625 (576)/50p, 750 (720)/50p, 750(720)/60p, 1125 (1080)/50i, 1125 (1080)/60i, 1125 (1080)/50p (HDMI only), 1125(1080)/60/24p (HDMI only)
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