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post #5041 of 12670
7/11/08 at 7:19am
Figured I'd take the time to post a couple of pics of my PZ85U setup, nothing special and a bad camera/my bad flash photography but here it is anyways. Yeah I know.. outta control wires, gonna fix that soon!



Here's The Big Lebowski on HD DVD, the camera makes it look darker/noisier than it is
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post #5042 of 12670
7/11/08 at 11:41am
Hey Patrick...I've got some "bad" pictures coming as well Took them a couple of weeks ago and never posted...will try for later today.
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post #5043 of 12670
7/11/08 at 4:59pm
This week I had 3 different tvs to replace my Sharp Aquos 37 inch 768p as my bedroom tv. I bought the Sony KDL-40W4100 on Monday at Circuit City and I exchanged it on Wednesday for the Samsung LN40A550, because the KDL-40W4100 had sparkles that appeared on screen. Today, I exchanged the LN40A550 for the Panasonic TH-42PZ80U, because the Samsung had ghosting problems, a halo effect, and brightness shifting.

The Panasonic TH-42PZ80U with 36 months with no interest financing plan, so I thought that I should try it out. I glad that I did. This tv is awesome, better than the Sony and Samsung in picture quality and build quaility. The TH-42PZ80U looks like a keeper. I hope that I will enjoy it.
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post #5044 of 12670
7/11/08 at 5:21pm
Here are some quickies I grabbed using my cell phone camera...












We still need to go over it with another coat of paint and touchups. This is what it used to look like...

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post #5045 of 12670
7/11/08 at 7:17pm
Very nice pankey, but where did that huge black couch go!?
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post #5046 of 12670
7/12/08 at 2:39am
I have never understood this; why do americans use shoes inside, and carpets all over?!?

JH_man
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post #5047 of 12670
7/12/08 at 5:30am
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Originally Posted by rkish View Post

Hey Patrick...I've got some "bad" pictures coming as well Took them a couple of weeks ago and never posted...will try for later today.

Can't wait, I always love seeing other people's setups
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post #5048 of 12670
7/12/08 at 5:43am
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Originally Posted by JH_man View Post

I have never understood this; why do americans use shoes inside, and carpets all over?!?

JH_man

Very good question. Our family is part Mediterranean (several generations home grown Americans though), it's taboo to wear shoes in the house. Same as the church (we swap out our shoes for slippers).

Kind of off topic though
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post #5049 of 12670
7/12/08 at 6:53am
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I have never understood this; why do americans use shoes inside, and carpets all over?!?

JH_man

I'm American and I have wall-to-wall wood flooring.
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post #5050 of 12670
7/12/08 at 9:02am
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I have never understood this; why do americans use shoes inside, and carpets all over?!?

JH_man

That's my daughter, she is lazy. We actually don't most of the time, she is in violation there!

I should say, we are not as adamant as some people, for instance, when running late for work and running back in the house to grab your wallet or something doesn't call for taking your shoes off. otherwise i have a specific cabinet built to house shoes immediately when you walk in (which is a tiled area).

as far as carpet, that's just our living room. all hallways are tiled, kitchens and bathrooms tiled, one room has a wood floor. the only things carpeted is that room plus the bedrooms. you can even see the tile on the bottom right corner of our before pic.
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post #5051 of 12670
7/12/08 at 9:04am
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Originally Posted by LBFilmGuy View Post

Very nice pankey, but where did that huge black couch go!?

it's in the garage, it is quite old now. i've been trying to give it away but most people I know are already set. thinking of having a garage sale where i list it for $0 so someone will take it. haha
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post #5052 of 12670
7/12/08 at 12:03pm
OK, as I'm still in break-in I'm keeping everything on Just or Fill for now but I'm confused about where I'm gong to want to set the display mode for HD content once I'm done with break-in. Which mode is "regular" i.e. bars on top and bottom widescreen movies, hd tv, etc?
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post #5053 of 12670
7/12/08 at 1:25pm
Yes these pannie plasmas exhibit a kind of convergence problem, i have it on all pixels. Then again most displays still do it. (which is odd cuz it makes no sense technically, plasma/lcd technology shouldn't have problems with it..)

Moving a white block over screen just shows the standard phosphor trail, its actually present with all mixed colors and even stand still images.
So technically its not a bug but a feature, if your annoyed by it id suggest returning the screen. It will only get worse over time.. and i doubt you will get used to it.

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Funny while checking my screens trails dragging some windows, i managed to concentrate my eyes on 1 spot (sort of staring at it like a zombie..).
I could still see the refresh rate tearing up the window but the trails were nearly gone. Which is kinda odd since if i watch the window normally (following it with my eyes), i can see the trail lagged over several refresh cycles (24hz) and 3 cm or so wide.


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I immediately noticed on the very right most edge of the panel (the right-most column of pixels - top to bottom) there is a thin line that is light green (lime) as opposed to white. I then figure it may be the DVD player so I switch to another DVD player (480i). Same problem.

This produced a white scrolling bar (left to right) and I watched it move over the right edge of the set. Sure enough, when the white bar moves over the right most column, the column is green not white. At this point I thought I had a defective set.
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post #5054 of 12670
7/12/08 at 1:40pm
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Use Full, Size 1 or Size 2 for your HD content.
Size 1 has 5% overscan, Size 2 has no overscan. Your preference.
I use Full, size 2 to get the most picture area. But with no overscan you will see noise on the top of your display on some HD programming. I read somewhere that this noise is CC info, do not know if thats true or not. If that becomes bothersome then try Full, Size 1.

So FULL is not zoomed at all, i.e. straight aspect off the disc? Also, Size 2 fills the screen, correct? I thought overscan meant it fills the screen? Obviously I'm a bit slow here.
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post #5055 of 12670
7/12/08 at 5:48pm
HD Size 1 (which is the only option for all modes except 1080i/1080p format in FULL mode) crops 2.5% of the picture off on each of the four sides.
HD Size 2 has zero cropping but is only selectable with 1080i or 1080p format in FULL mode. This is fine for most true HD programming, but for some reason NBC's HD programming has a think white line at the extreme left edge that is visible in Size 2 only. Also upconverted SD programming on HD channels will usually show color noise at the extreme top edge that isn't there on true HD programming.
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post #5056 of 12670
7/12/08 at 5:53pm
Has anyone watched closely for sometime how much and how quickly the pixel orbiter shifts the image in "auto" mode? The manual settings allow for fixed time of 1,2,3,or 4 minutes, does it shift only one pixel each time or more?

Looking at a fixed image like the AVIA Overscan image should make it possible to see how much pixel movement occurs overtime. I was using it with a DVD player for testing today and initially noticed it wasn't perfectly centered and after awhile it was centered, so it must have been the pixel orbiter shifting it away and back to center. With a 480p format input (forces Size 1 mode) when centered there was 2.5% overscan crop on each edge, but with the pixel orbiting it shifted down to almost 2% and up to 3% from what I could see at times.
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post #5057 of 12670
7/12/08 at 6:29pm
Well...here are some pics of my 50" 85U plus a few shots from the "Yes-Live at Montreaux" BD

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post #5058 of 12670
7/13/08 at 1:17am
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maybe the non-ir in so far is due to break in+ good settings???

also, i wouldnt get too cocky about the side bar thing, granted the ESPN ones are better than nothing/black, i think that's a slow creeping thing, and once it's visible it's built up pretty strong....do you put grey bars on SD content? If so and you've had no problems so far thats good news at least (some have said even grey bars dont work perfectly eventualy).

spincut...I originally used grey bars during the first week, but watching 4:3 channels it started annoying me(even though they say it's better than black bars). Fortunately, instead of using the TV's side bar settings at all, Comcast HD box has a service menu option to leave 4:3 channels as is with no stretching while keeping the 1080i output to tv. So I get a full 1080i signal on the screen(confirmed when I hit info on tv)with the SD channel showing right in the middle with black bars on left and right(I guess the Comcast box does the processing). I don't know if this is better for burn in since it's always feeding a "full screen" 1080i signal on all channels even for 4:3 content, even though it's still black on the sides. To me though, the black side bars are so much better for viewing standard def content. We'll see if I start to notice any burn in with the HD ESPN channels as time passes, i'll post an update in a month(keeping fingers and toes crossed).
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post #5059 of 12670
7/13/08 at 2:55am
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Originally Posted by solen View Post

spincut...I originally used grey bars during the first week, but watching 4:3 channels it started annoying me(even though they say it's better than black bars). Fortunately, instead of using the TV's side bar settings at all, Comcast HD box has a service menu option to leave 4:3 channels as is with no stretching while keeping the 1080i output to tv. So I get a full 1080i signal on the screen(confirmed when I hit info on tv)with the SD channel showing right in the middle with black bars on left and right(I guess the Comcast box does the processing). I don't know if this is better for burn in since it's always feeding a "full screen" 1080i signal on all channels even for 4:3 content, even though it's still black on the sides. To me though, the black side bars are so much better for viewing standard def content. We'll see if I start to notice any burn in with the HD ESPN channels as time passes, i'll post an update in a month(keeping fingers and toes crossed).

I'm not sure exactly what you're talking about in your description of it, but from the sound of it you may have some misplaced faith in your "trick" with the comcast box. It's still black inactive bars plain and simple, having the black bars be part of the signal wont really change the fact that they are black, and hence not working the pixels.

It also means if you do set grey bars on the box, it wont show up likely (like when you watch a 4:3 SD program on an HD channel, it will transmit widescreen still, so if the box has grey bars set, the bars on that channel will still be black.

anyhoo, after a few weeks of using black bars like that, assuming you wawtch extensive SD or do SD gaming or whatnot, let me know how it looks, watch a hockey game or something, i'd be curious to know.
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post #5060 of 12670
7/13/08 at 5:54am
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Well...here are some pics of my 50" 85U plus a few shots from the "Yes-Live at Montreaux" BD

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Looking good, I like your TV stand, are those glass shelves? Like the stand alone BD player too, I'm really meaning to get one and ditch the PS3, I never game anyways (at least not on my console, more of a PC man)

BD shots look excellent, better than mine anyways
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post #5061 of 12670
7/13/08 at 6:18am
Im about to buy this set but Im a bit "on the fence" because of the "flashing" issue. My question is, for those who have this issue - is it a common occurence or one that happens like once a day.

I hate to have to budget 500 more to go to the 800u (the 42 incher) just to avoid this problem. The TV would be for my bedroom.

Any comments on how often this happens would be great. Thnx
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post #5062 of 12670
7/13/08 at 6:53am
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Looking good, I like your TV stand, are those glass shelves? Like the stand alone BD player too, I'm really meaning to get one and ditch the PS3, I never game anyways (at least not on my console, more of a PC man)

BD shots look excellent, better than mine anyways

Thanks Patrick! It's an Init stand that I got from Best Buy for about $250.00. It's designed to hold a 63" DLP. And yes, those are glass shelves...they are "supposed" to handle 300 lbs.

The BD player was a lucky purchase from EBay...it's a Panny BD-10AK that I got for $245.00. It's been working great...I almost got a PS3, but as I'm more of a Nintendo guy, so I opted to look for a standalone.

Thanks again for the kind words...my camera is a shade above bearable

By the way...NICE setup yourself Those speakers look like they really crank!

One question...how were you able to post pics directly to the page and not as an attachment? Does it have to be a URL?
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post #5063 of 12670
7/13/08 at 9:17am
Yeah it has to be hosted on an image site like image shack with a direct link to the URL. Thanks for the compliments on the speakers, I just got them about a week ago They're Energy RC-50s, would recommend them to anyone or any of their speakers for that matter
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post #5064 of 12670
7/13/08 at 10:43am
solen, I would recommend against watching much SD or HD contents with the 4:3 black bars on the side. It will lead to uneven wear after a period of time. What that period of time is depends on how much 4:3 material you watch. This is just something as plasma owners we have to be careful with.

On the Pixel Orbiter, I wish there was a way you could set it to ON, where it stayed on during video game sessions or when you watch something with a bright network bug. My understanding is the orbiter doesn't kick on unless the screen is static for a certain length of time, so any motion on the screen at all will keep it from orbiting. Or am I wrong?
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post #5065 of 12670
7/13/08 at 12:39pm
Thinking about getting the Panasonic TH-C42FD18 42 inch 1080 Plasma set at my local Costco store... $1299 is making me want to bite on this deal!

I heard its like the same thing as a PZ80U but with a PC input, if that is the case, how was the PZ80U, or better yet, anyone with experience, how is gaming on this TV?

I'm going to be using this mainly for gaming so I'll have to break it in real nice....

I play a ton of games that require timing (fighting games), so I hope the response time isn't worse than my current LCD TV (Sony XBR2 46 inch, with an 8ms response time)...

If anyone can answer, I'd appreciate it. The best way to test for lag is via rock band calibration or guitar hero 3.
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post #5066 of 12670
7/13/08 at 12:45pm
Oh yea, I should mention that any type of noticeable lag will really affect my decision. I think 8ms is my limit, anything more than that I can't stand. Does anyone know for sure if it's better on this Panny?

I know it sounds anal and all but I plan on taking the TV around to various conventions to display upcoming fighting games. I don't want to do a disservice to the players/competitive people by having a screen that does not perform as well as a clunky CRT in terms of input. I don't want to bite the bullet and test it myself, but it looks like I might have to do that seeing as my upcoming event is 2 weeks away -_-
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post #5067 of 12670
7/13/08 at 1:56pm
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Originally Posted by Patrick. View Post

Yeah it has to be hosted on an image site like image shack with a direct link to the URL. Thanks for the compliments on the speakers, I just got them about a week ago They're Energy RC-50s, would recommend them to anyone or any of their speakers for that matter

Energys...WOW...I've got a set of them up in my attice that I must have bought over 20 years ago. They were one step below their top of the line at that time and cost me between 800.00-900.00. YES...Energys are a good investment!

I inherited my brother-in-laws BOSE Acoustimass system that he bought back in 1997 for about a 900.00 or so. I have it hooked up to an older Sony receiver and am using the analog outs on my BD player for a "core" DTS scenario with the 5.1 setup. A LOT better than DD 5.1 . I'm pretty impressed with the sound, considering that I don't have an HDMI option as far as audio is concerned.

If you look closely in that pic, you will see a Pioneer LD player as well
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post #5068 of 12670
7/13/08 at 6:21pm
bobski510, I remember this information on the Orbiter from early in the thread:
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Originally Posted by rdoggy1976 View Post

For anyone who is curious about the pixel orbiter setting:
According their Concierge hotline it is only for static screen such as a a dvd player screen saver. On automatic it starts the pixel orbiter after 4 min of a static screen. Or you can change it to force and select 1 to 4 min.

So, in AUTO, the set waits for a static image, but if you force it, the pixels will orbit every X minutes? That's what I'm hoping it does, anyway...
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post #5069 of 12670
7/13/08 at 6:36pm
On my 42PZ80, gaming is awesome! I can't stop playing Burnout Paradise. Those car wrecks in slow motion in all their full HD glory are simply beautiful.

Guitar Hero 3 tested a nice big fat 0 ms lag. And I agree with it. I don't see any lag on mine.

This is my first HDTV, and I just love it.


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Originally Posted by MarkMan23 View Post

Thinking about getting the Panasonic TH-C42FD18 42 inch 1080 Plasma set at my local Costco store... $1299 is making me want to bite on this deal!

I heard its like the same thing as a PZ80U but with a PC input, if that is the case, how was the PZ80U, or better yet, anyone with experience, how is gaming on this TV?

I'm going to be using this mainly for gaming so I'll have to break it in real nice....

I play a ton of games that require timing (fighting games), so I hope the response time isn't worse than my current LCD TV (Sony XBR2 46 inch, with an 8ms response time)...

If anyone can answer, I'd appreciate it. The best way to test for lag is via rock band calibration or guitar hero 3.
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post #5070 of 12670
7/13/08 at 7:20pm
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Originally Posted by shpankey View Post

Here are some quickies I grabbed using my cell phone camera...












We still need to go over it with another coat of paint and touchups. This is what it used to look like...


Nice setup, but you should try moving the sub in from the corner so you can move the right main speaker there and then move the left main further out since there seems to be more more on the left to do this.

I think you would appreciate the better sound separation with those front main speakers further apart. It will likely sound like a new sound system if you did that.

I know when I movies my Klipsch RP-5s about 10 feet apart instead of right next to the display it sounds worlds better.
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