Panasonic PZ80/PZ85 Owners Thread [No Price Talk] - Page 318

Originally Posted by auskck

PS TVs when off are ugly black rectangles staring back at you.

Originally Posted by neverfaithful

The panny plasma and other plasma have deeper colors (slightly) and less ghosting with sports or concerts with a lot of lights and fast moving images. The lcd has a sharper, crisper, brighter and more lively image on the screen. Thats my opinion. So you have to choose which is better for you. For gaming its lcd for movies its plasma. However, lcd is more advanced now there is not much of a difference anymore and thats the truth.

Originally Posted by bodosom

Sez a person with a powered screen.

You should check out those built-ins with the motorized Picasso covering them up. No ugly there.

Originally Posted by mikeyraw

LCD's are made for people like you, the panny is better than the lcd, IMO....but im not paranoid about burn in and IR and whatnot, as i will be breaking my set in correctly and i understand the drawbacks of plasma

Originally Posted by achavez2k6

I Agree that the panny is better then the lcd.. Ive seen them both in person, Thats why im here.. The panny is also cheaper but im woundering is there anyone that plays games on it and have they acutally burned something in rather then IR which can be taken care of... ??

Originally Posted by achavez2k6

I Agree that the panny is better then the lcd.. Ive seen them both in person, Thats why im here.. The panny is also cheaper but im woundering is there anyone that plays games on it and have they acutally burned something in rather then IR which can be taken care of... ??

Originally Posted by cvearl

I play Rock Band 2 a few hours a night since Xmas and a little Virtual fighter. All in game mode on the XBOX 360.

Have no problems. Looks beutiful. Turned down the Picture setting a little for game mode though. It was too bright at 100. Settled with about 75 or 80 if I recall.

LCD'd are great for Pixar movies and gaming. After that? It's blotchy skin and blocky shadows, unnatural color and crappy viewing angles is all I can see. Plasma is king. Just does not seem like it in the showroom. Unfortunate.

C.

Originally Posted by bodosom

Sez a person with a powered screen.

You should check out those built-ins with the motorized Picasso covering them up. No ugly there.

Originally Posted by skydykker

Okay called panasonic here today and he said there was no way to change where it started up or automatically change to the input that powered up, unless I set it on hotel setting which he didnt know how to. However I got a feeling if I put it in hotel setting I won't be able to switch to a different HDMI when playing PS3

Anyway thanks everyone for the answers, its hard to give a solution when there isn't one from the manufacturers side either.

Originally Posted by auskck

I have seen nothing on the threads about screen damage due to usage, only a few dead pixels, a few with flawed screens from day 1 and a couple of DOAs

Originally Posted by skydykker

Okay called panasonic here today and he said there was no way to change where it started up or automatically change to the input that powered up, unless I set it on hotel setting

Originally Posted by auskck

It can be done for about $50 US dollars. (depends on your lighting).

Originally Posted by achavez2k6

This is good 2 hear... Now is this after the 100 hr " break in " and i know this is a touchy subject ( some say do it, others say not needed for new plasmas ) But this is the Major factor on me getting this tv or Not... Is there any out there who watched sdtv,dvd, and played games without this break in? is there specific settings you used? did u have any issues at all?

Originally Posted by bodosom

I'd be interested if you have a source for IR controlled switches or dimmers at reasonable pricing. All I could find is stuff like Luxtrol or RF cheapies.

Originally Posted by ganzhimself

I did a good amount of PS3 gaming before the 100 hour break-in was over, but I was also using the break-in settings. (Picture and Brightness <50) I know my buddy who has the same set 42pz80 didn't do any of the break-in and his set looks just fine. He does get some IR during heavy gaming sessions and long viewing of channels with a ticker or logo. Nothing that doesn't go away, so I wouldn't think it's an issue. I keep telling him that he should really turn the picture setting down a bit, but he likes it where it is.

A brief note on the break-in.... It really is not difficult to run the SD-card break-in program during the times you're not using the TV, it takes a shade over 4 days to do and it's worth it, especially if it's going to prolong the life of the panel. I'm fairly certain that these TVs are ready to use right out of the box, but it doesn't hurt to gently break-in the TV for the first hundred hours. It's comparable to breaking in a new car... You don't go pounding the piss out of it right away, you have to be a little gentle on it for a while.

Originally Posted by achavez2k6

This is good 2 hear... Now is this after the 100 hr " break in " and i know this is a touchy subject ( some say do it, others say not needed for new plasmas ) But this is the Major factor on me getting this tv or Not... Is there any out there who watched sdtv,dvd, and played games without this break in? is there specific settings you used? did u have any issues at all?

Originally Posted by JaredFlaherty

does anybody have a link to some sort of dictionary or something of terms to use when talking about picture quality? such as what phosphur trails or whatever are? i am VERY happy with my 85U, but, the one thing i'm looking to improve on is when the screen is mostly all white or bright i see what i will call "blotchiness". kind of little speckles of reds and blues and whatnot. i broke the tv in for well more than 100 hours with break in images and settings down low. i am using a directv hd box with hdmi going through a harman kardon reciever. ???? settings:

cinema
pic 70
brigh 63
color 51
tint 0
sharp 0
color temp cool
all other crap= off
black level light

Originally Posted by JaredFlaherty

does anybody have a link to some sort of dictionary or something of terms to use when talking about picture quality? such as what phosphur trails or whatever are? i am VERY happy with my 85U, but, the one thing i'm looking to improve on is when the screen is mostly all white or bright i see what i will call "blotchiness". kind of little speckles of reds and blues and whatnot. i broke the tv in for well more than 100 hours with break in images and settings down low. i am using a directv hd box with hdmi going through a harman kardon reciever. ???? settings:

cinema
pic 70
brigh 63
color 51
tint 0
sharp 0
color temp cool
all other crap= off
black level light

Originally Posted by neverfaithful

LCD does not have fake colors, I dont even kn ow why u would say that. that just not true. They look very good to me and many others or else they would not be on top of the list for LCDs

Originally Posted by neverfaithful

Ok, I have had my Panny 85u for 7 days now and I am not really impressed. The picture does not pop and there is no wow factor viewing HD movies or playing games on 360 and PS3. I decided to exchange it for the Sammy 750 series and pay an extra $500 and for a 46". Sorry but this panny is not that great and my Pioneer 5070 thats is 2 years old and is a 1080i set produces a better picture. I don't see how some of you guys on this thread are so impressed. The only explanation is that most of you are new to HD and are just happy to see a change. To me is just ehhh. The Sammy definately has a sharper and crisper image then panny and I dont have to deal with the stupid IR/burn-in.

Originally Posted by jrimmer

Yeah I basically did none of the break in and I have been fine with my 42PZ85U. Initially I was consumed with worry that if I didnt do it I would wreck my tv. I did however vary my content quite a bit. I also had my picture and contrast down to 50 but they eventually crept up to acceptable level. I would say that you are quite safe. I would imagne appart from the people in this forum, or similar ones. People pay no attention to break in, wich when you think about it is probably the majority of Panasonic Customers. People who go out there and blindly buy sets. In summary, I would just set it and forget it. Most people's habits in TV watching are sufficiently variable that it doesnt make a difference.

Another thing..... people out there saying the LCD's are preferable for gaming? Seriously? that hasnt been my impression - The games that I have played are way more natural looking and smoother than on LCD's. Plus as we all know the colours are more accurate. Paticularly on games where dark scene's are an issue.(i.e. i dont seem to need to run around with the flashlight on the entire game to see stuff properly)

Last note about the LCD v. Plasma thing? Why would someone go to a plasma owners thread and essentially tell people they wasted their money? Clearly this person need attention and perhaps some professional help as well as some medication for their issues. Every store that i went to and asked for the best PQ and performance directed me to the Panny section, 5 out of 5 times. (LoL they would also mention Pioneer and we would laugh together at the price. My sense is that people going into a store asking for a Pioneer, know what they are talking about and can actually afford one)

On my way to the LCD thread to mock them now!.

Originally Posted by jrimmer

LOL - the "look" I am familiar with too funny my wife goes mental with the 3 remotes we have - but I tell her just to put the god-stick/remote down and everything will be ok. For me its the only thing in the house that I know how to do better than her, its a power thing that's why you get the look. Everything else in the house she can do better than you except that, that why she wants you to get a programmable remote so you are even... Do not give in my brothers!!

Originally Posted by mikeyraw

right, i can barely afford this one