Originally Posted by Chu Gai
1) I've never noticed a difference in soundstage when comparing CDP's. I've listened for differences and as far as I'm concerned, a difference in soundstage is a difference. My last comparison was with the same player as you have and one from Bel Canto that a friend of mine had.
2) This 3-D holographic thing is just a vague term to me. My speakers provide a quite realistic representation with proper imaging and spaciousness if you will. FWIW, they're Whispers.
Are you familiar with Dunlavy's method for optimizing imaging?
I don't believe I have read Dunlavy's method you mention, but I have read about comb filtering. FWIW, I've gone to great lengths to optimize speaker placement, much further than the "basics" (of distance apart, distance to listener, distance from walls, toe in angle, etc) as well as basic room fundamentals.
Now, based on what I've just been reading about your Whisper speaker by Legacy Audio, I'm very impressed by your choice. They cost more than my entire current two-channel system, excluding the discarded components.
Frankly, I am very surprised that you cannot tell the difference in soundstage (and I assume, imaging as well) between two CD players. When you made your comparisons, did you use the analog out or an outboard DAC? Have you compared two CD players of different price points (example: $150 versus $500?).
I'm trying not to sound assumptive, but this leads me to question the rest of your system. IME, the more transparent and revealing one's system, the easier it is to tell differences between components or cables.
I have no doubt that you have high end components to match your speakers. Are you also taking care of things like quality power conditioning, vibration damping and using good cables? IME, cleaning up the power is "critical", whereas cabling and vibration damping are of secondary importance.
By 3D, holographic soundstage, I mean the experience is an "almost" live one with the right recording. I've described in another thread:
Quote:"a 3D, holographic soundstage, with jet black background in which each instrument and singer occupies its/his/her own space. With this kind of instrument separation, you should be able to hear the reverb, venue and hall sounds from within the soundstage and between the instruments. On certain "live" recordings, you should also be able to hear distinctly, members of the audience, conversing, laughing, whistling, and so on.
Seated in the sweetspot of listening room, especially with high quality recordings, your speakers should "disappear" and all you hear are the instruments and voices producing full bodied sound coming from distinct fixed spots. Within the sounstage these instruments and vocals should sound real or almost real, and depending on the recordings the instruments/vocalists should sound "in the room"."
My "lowly" $10K system can do this. FWIW, my speakers are just "lowly" Quad 22L's.