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post #1 of 123
2/29/08 at 9:23am
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Ok so I frequent a Cloverfield board where a reliable source has hinted at a possible issue with Paramount's "Cloverfield" Blu-ray release... This may also be a preemptive confirmation that we may be getting Cloverfield day and date with the dvd release... Anyway, here's the quote:
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A lot of people worked hard for over a month creating some amazing extra features for the HD release of "Cloverfield." At first it looked like not many consumers would see these features, as the release was planned for HD-DVD like Paramount's other recent titles. But now that Toshiba's HD-DVD format is dead, Paramount is scrambling to release "Cloverfield" on Blu-ray - on the original HD-DVD street date. As a result, the current belief is that there's not enough time to program all the extra features (including lots of new story stuff, along the lines of the viral campaign's backstory) in time for the Blu-ray release, and all this great work will be scrapped. That would suck! So I'm hoping that if you and others help spread the word, maybe the fans could make enough noise to convince Paramount Home Entertainment's marketing division to postpone the Blu-ray release by a few weeks so the disc can include all the extra materials. Demand it!

Thank you!

-"Anonymous"

Here's the link to the thread: http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/v...=490310#490310

And a link to the blog it was posted on:
http://tagruato.blogspot.com/2008/02...y-release.html

The person who provided this information is a reliable source who has provided only accurate information in the past...

Thoughts?

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post #2 of 123
2/29/08 at 9:26am
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Originally Posted by Mistersh0w View Post

Ok so I frequent a Cloverfield board where a reliable source has hinted at a possible issue with Paramount's "Cloverfield" Blu-ray release... This may also be a preemptive confirmation that we may be getting Cloverfield day and date with the dvd release... Anyway, here's the quote:


Here's the link to the thread: http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/v...=490310#490310

And a link to the blog it was posted on:
http://tagruato.blogspot.com/2008/02...y-release.html

The person who provided this information is a reliable source who has provided only accurate information in the past...

Thoughts?

Whats the problem?
Release the movie now (in lossless of course), and than double dip later on!
post #3 of 123
2/29/08 at 9:28am
Just gimmie the movie at a decent price, that's all I need.
post #4 of 123
2/29/08 at 9:32am
Just gimme the movie. I haven't bothered with extras for years.
post #5 of 123
2/29/08 at 9:34am
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Originally Posted by Mistersh0w View Post

Well, true they could do that, and in all honesty may already be on that fast track... But if they planned a loaded first release for HDDEAD, why not give Blu the slack?

Unfortunately i'm with you shamus, they'll soooo double dip with this predicament in their hands...

Im not big on special features but this movie may be one of the exceptions, since its advertisements were part of the whole experience.(haven't seen it yet).
But if thay can't make it in time they should release it day and date.
post #6 of 123
2/29/08 at 9:38am
The extras for this movie would be worth waiting if the history of the viral web stuff were included
post #7 of 123
2/29/08 at 9:48am
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Originally Posted by camaroz06 View Post

The extras for this movie would be worth waiting if the history of the viral web stuff were included

Not for me. Just give me the film with the highest PQ/AQ an you can keep the fluff and puff.
post #8 of 123
2/29/08 at 10:05am
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I'm really interested in the collective negative groaning when it comes to special features on hi-def releases...

If we're going to be paying 25 bucks for a movie, why not throw in all you can? "More bang for your buck" they call it...

I just don't see the justification in paying $25 here for a Blu-ray with no features, and then $25 there for a Blu-ray packed with stuff, and being OK with it. If there's a precedent set, why not continue on? It would make more companies, like Paramount, strive for packing on the features day and date...

I dunno it's a worthless debate I guess. And sort of off topic...
post #9 of 123
2/29/08 at 10:21am
I'm one of the few that loves Extras. So if this is true, I will just rent the DVD/Special Features.
post #10 of 123
2/29/08 at 10:23am
I think they have no choice but to release it day and date. I'm certain that some not-insignificant percentage of HDM sales comes from 1st time purchasers picking up the title during the first week of release. If the title is delayed by some factor of weeks, then it will just fall under the radar when it is finally released. Granted, those of us that follow HDM will be aware, but we're the minority.
post #11 of 123
2/29/08 at 10:24am
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Originally Posted by William View Post

Not for me. Just give me the film with the highest PQ/AQ an you can keep the fluff and puff.

Amen!!!!
post #12 of 123
2/29/08 at 10:24am
Give me the total package. Delay it by a few weeks if you have to.
post #13 of 123
2/29/08 at 10:24am
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Originally Posted by shamus View Post

Whats the problem?
Release the movie now (in lossless of course), and than double dip later on!

Agreed. Give us the movie with great PQ/AQ and I'll be a happy camper.
post #14 of 123
2/29/08 at 10:31am
I prob would only watch the extras once. I also want them just so I have a "complete" disc.
post #15 of 123
2/29/08 at 10:37am
Just the film, please.
post #16 of 123
2/29/08 at 10:37am
Ehh guess I'll just buy the DVD, I love extras.
post #17 of 123
2/29/08 at 10:42am
Why can't they start doing it like dvd's, where you can pick up the one-disc at a much lower price if you don't care about extras? I'd love to see a BR come out on release day at 19.99 for the no-frills edition.
post #18 of 123
2/29/08 at 10:56am
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Originally Posted by MattGuyOR View Post

Why can't they start doing it like dvd's, where you can pick up the one-disc at a much lower price if you don't care about extras? I'd love to see a BR come out on release day at 19.99 for the no-frills edition.

I like that idea, that way it would solve the whole "extended edition/directors cut versions" debacle. They could sell the bare bones movie-only Blu-ray, AND the packed up 2-disc directors cut with 80+ hours of bonus features and commentaries!!!
post #19 of 123
2/29/08 at 11:00am
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Originally Posted by MattGuyOR View Post

Why can't they start doing it like dvd's, where you can pick up the one-disc at a much lower price if you don't care about extras? I'd love to see a BR come out on release day at 19.99 for the no-frills edition.

That would be ideal. Barebones new releases could be $19.99 just like catalog titles (save Fox) and Special Editions could be $24.99.
post #20 of 123
2/29/08 at 11:02am
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Originally Posted by nyg View Post

That would be ideal. Barebones new releases could be $19.99 just like catalog titles (save Fox) and Special Editions could be $24.99.

If they want to get serious about competing against DVD, they need to do something like that. Every new release should come out on both formats, side by side. People need to see it's here to stay. If it's only 5 bucks more than the dvd counterpart, it's got a chance.
post #21 of 123
2/29/08 at 11:10am
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Originally Posted by William View Post

Not for me. Just give me the film with the highest PQ/AQ an you can keep the fluff and puff.

Yep, I'm in it for the HD experience.
post #22 of 123
2/29/08 at 11:18am
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Originally Posted by dpags View Post

Yep, I'm in it for the HD experience.

Well, sometimes the special features are in HD... Experience that!
post #23 of 123
2/29/08 at 11:18am
I have my doubts about how much the "wizz-bang-flash" effects are worth. They usually tend to be gimmicky and "cheapen" the experience. It's hard to give a damn if they are forced to drop some lame on-screen game or other gimmicky stuff.

I have no problem if they use it wisely, but it's hard to judge how much it is worth "site unseen". I suppose Cloverfield could be the first title to really use the new tech to good effect, but there's no logical reason to distinguish it from the rest of releases out there.
post #24 of 123
2/29/08 at 11:58am
I wouldn't mind a few weeks delay to get not only the best AQ PQ avalible, but also the best bonus materials.
post #25 of 123
2/29/08 at 12:59pm
Paramount's recent HD DVD releases, from Transformers on, have been very feature heavy indeed. I'm not surprised that such a release was planned for Cloverfield, nor am I surprised that some sacrifice of features will be necessary to achieve a day-date BD release. I seriously doubt if the time frame necessary to get all the planned features on a BD release is as little as a few weeks, probably more like months. Chances are the HD DVD version was already finalized, while the BD will have to be done from scratch in a hurry by a studio who originally had no plans for a BD version at all, and that this is a temporary problem that should not become prevalent on future releases.

The learning curve for doing special features using Java on BD has always been acknowledged as being fairly steep compared to doing the same thing on HD DVD, but it's not insurmountable. I'm looking forward to some really amazing stuff in the future from BD and am thankful for having a PS3 that should have little problem utilizing the features.
post #26 of 123
2/29/08 at 2:45pm
Part of the "Next Gen" format are extras/interactivity. Do it right, Paramount!
post #27 of 123
2/29/08 at 3:46pm
Is not Cloverfield an 80 minute movie?

They would have room left over. Bring on the extras.
post #28 of 123
2/29/08 at 3:51pm
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Originally Posted by ElChupacabra View Post

Is not Cloverfield an 80 minute movie?

They would have room left over. Bring on the extras.

It's not about room. It's about running out of time before the DVD release. Even on a 25gb disc, this movie poses no threats.
post #29 of 123
2/29/08 at 4:10pm
Considering the MSRP of these BR discs and the fact that actual street prices are not usualy considerably better unless you get in on some sort of sale (which will not be happening as much since the "war" is over), I want everything they will put on this set and every other set for that matter. If it is only a matter of a few extra weeks to get these extras and a more complete set, I certainly hope they postpone the release.
post #30 of 123
2/29/08 at 4:23pm
I hope they postpone it too. Cloverfield is the rare movie where I'd be very interested in the extra material. A *lot* of the story was intentionally left out in order to increase suspense, so the ability to get more content would be a big plus for this title.

I'd wait.
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