Official OPPO DV-983H w/ ABT VRS FAQ/Dump - Page 36

just got back and read your comments. first question.what do u mean by 1:1 pixel mapping

Neuromancer,

I have to say that I disagree with your reasoning behind not implementing a better speaker distance setting.

Any Onkyo user familiar with their multichannel inputs knows that you only have 3 DSP options:

Multichannel - uses the receivers delay, crossover, trim and Audyssey
Direct - ignores all the above settings
Pure AUdio - ignores all the above settings, plus turns off the video processing circuits

If I want the highest quality sound from my hardware combination, it would involved analog output from the 983 and Pure Audio selected on my Onkyo 705. The lack of adequate speaker distance control and being forced into a setup where the front main speakers must be the farthest away makes this impossible for me to use.

With the price of this player set at $399, I find that extremely upsetting. It seems that Oppo has given no thought to that set of circumstances. In addition, what about users who due to room constraints, cannot have their main speakers farther away than the rest?

For the price we paid to have the 'deluxe' version of universal DVD players, the lack of independent speaker distance controls is an ugly declaration of corner-cutting. Yes that is just my opinion, and yes my tone is decidedly different from my last post on the matter. The more I think about what I paid for this player and the more I think about how top-notch quality is basically being kept out of my reach for no good reason on Oppos part just pisses me off.

Please note that I'm not trying to attack you personally; you happen to be in a position to pass along requests/feedback directly to people who might fix the issue, so I am expressing myself fully so that my dissatisfaction on this issue is completely demonstrated.

Neuromancer, what FW are you running on your 9.8?

You could ask them yourself and let us know. I was told they were investigating. I am experiencing intermittent dropouts, say once per hour, although they occur in clusters sometimes. I can live with it for a while.

If I were you I would ask Oppo what they recommend given your situation:

(1) Refund.

(2) Exchange.

(3) Hang on to the current unit waiting for a firmware fix. If you are unhappy with current performance then I would do this only if Oppo would still offer a refund if it is not corrected. I don't know if they will do that.

-Bill

It means the display uses the 1920x1080 signal from the player without any additional zooming or cropping of the image. In the past there have been displays that would not allow you to defeat their built-in overscan, which was a very bad thing.

Before you ask me how to do this on your display: I don't know. Check the thread for your display in one of the other forums.

-Bill

Thank you for your candor regarding your experience with the dropouts. As you know, I have contacted Oppo, and I will let you know how they respond.

Let us all know

I do have a 1:1 pixel mapping option on my Samsung 50 inch full HD display but I usually use 16:9 instead of 'Just Scan' as they call it. You say overscanning is a very bad thing - can you please explain why? Thanks.

Keith

(1) We went to all the trouble to make as good a 1920x1080 image as we could, and now you want to scale it by a few percent again? That has to degrade the image.

(2) It clips off part of the picture. Don't you want to see the whole picture?

-Bill

True...but some channels have that flickering garbage at the top or sides. Having a little bit of overscan is good to prevent having to see that. I agree that some TVs have too much overscan, to the point of chopping off logos and what not, but 0 overscan introduces other problems. Maybe not so much with a DVD, as in this case, but definitely with TV broadcasts.

Can't the 1:1 pixel mapping just be set for the input the DVD is attached to or does it apply to all inputs?

Or scan rates?

What numbers are people typically using for receiver delays to fix lipsync?

My old reciever doesn't have this option. But the 983 does have a digital audio delay setting. I asked a few days ago if anyone has made use of this feature/option. All in all I am much more impressed / happy wiht the Oppo 983's lipsync (without adjustment) than my previous player.

My reciever does not have a delay either, and I am currently under the impression that the 983 delay does not apply to the coax output...at least I messed with it and did not notice any change. Am I stupid? I am trying to decide whether to get a Feltston delay box or a new receiver, but I see the that receivers I am looking at have a maximum delay of 100msec. Is 100ms enough for the 983?

This is merely a common presumption, not a general rule.

I have not seen/heard any dropout. My signal path is 983H - OPPO HM-31 - Onkyo TX-SR604 - Pioneer Kuro PRO-110FD, running at 1080p. My firmware on the 983H is the original 05-0303.

Based on my reading so far, it seems that three members experienced dropout issue: mjmbond, wmcclain (a beta tester?), and hikinokie. Since hikinokie returned his/her unit without trying a replacement, perhaps mjmbond and wmcclain can ask OPPO for a replacement unit to try?

In my experience, I had a Denon DVD-2910CI which is much more expensive than the $399 OPPO DV-983H, and guess what? The speaker distance setting also required that the surround speakers cannot be further away than the front speakers. I also tried a Panasonic S97 briefly, and remembered that its speaker distance setting also had this limitation. This makes me think there might be some common restriction or reason behind this.

To study a little bit more on this, I found an article talking about speaker placement. http://www.practical-home-theater-gu...placement.html

With your 9.8 turned on, press and hold the "display" button on the front of the unit, then press the "Standby/On" button. The firmware version will display for a couple of seconds. Mine is "87 1.04."

Onkyo/Integra is not forthcoming with the purpose of every FW update, and it may be possible that if you have a more recent update, that they may have addressed some HDMI connectivity issues. I'm just trying to figure out why you're not having the problem I am.

Let me just say that this unit is capable of a wonderful picture; I want things to work out here. However, I cannot live with this purchase with the kind of dropouts I've experienced. It's my hope that it is simply a malfunctioning unit. If Oppo is willing to let me try a replacement unit and extend my return privilege (which expires shortly) to allow for a reasonable test period, then I will go that route. If not, I'll have no other choice but to return it and hope that the issue is addressed by Oppo in the future.

Well, that blows one theory

Thanks for checking.

I used the phrase "apparent position", as you appeared to have implied that the problem should not exist with the 983s as shipped, by your "replacement" suggestion. I'm glad you clarified your position.

My hope is that Oppo will be concerned about the problem enough to work with me on finding where the problem lies, but I will not put myself in the position of owning a player that may not ever "play" nice with my equipment.

It will be interesting to hear what Oppo wants to do here.