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post #5521 of 5594
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Originally Posted by hawkster27 View Post

For the first time, I'm interested in buying a region 2 DVD not available in the US. I've always thought the 983H was region-free. However, on page 61 of the owner's manual it states, "Region Management Information: This DVD player is designed and manufactured to respond to the region management information. If the region number of a DVD disc does not correspond to the region number of the DVD player, the DVD player cannot play the disc. The region number for this DVD player is region No. 1." Did Oppo enforce region management late in the 983H production run?

Oppo "enforced" the Region code requirements throughout all production runs on all models as any up-standing consumer electronics manufacturer was/is obligated to.
It was nefarious purchasers of the products who promulgated and used the "hack" to watch the non-Region 1 discs that they had purchased. In some cases that region-free DVD possibility was at least one reason for spending the extra coin for an Oppo.
Also kudo's to Bill for the quick response with the remote codes.
Mike K
post #5522 of 5594
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Originally Posted by Mkard View Post

Oppo "enforced" the Region code requirements throughout all production runs on all models as any up-standing consumer electronics manufacturer was/is obligated to.
It was nefarious purchasers of the products who promulgated and used the "hack" to watch the non-Region 1 discs that they had purchased. In some cases that region-free DVD possibility was at least one reason for spending the extra coin for an Oppo.
Also kudo's to Bill for the quick response with the remote codes.
Mike K

And should either of you forget them and Bill isn't arround you can always find the codes in the 1st post of the thread. Where you guys been?
post #5523 of 5594
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Originally Posted by Mkard View Post

Oppo "enforced" the Region code requirements throughout all production runs on all models as any up-standing consumer electronics manufacturer was/is obligated to.

Indeed, this makes perfect sense. But I'm curious: why did Oppo allow the hack to work on the entire 9XX series and then completely lock it out on the BD-83? I've heard they didn't want to alienate the blu-ray consortium, but surely the blu-ray people are no more powerful than the DVD people, and are probably the same people, ie the major studios.
post #5524 of 5594
Thread Starter 
Because no one was enforcing it. The BDA (Blu-ray Disc Association) is enforcing regional locks on players. There have been several players released which supported regional locks, but all of them have either been pulled from the market or have been patched to not allow for simple software unlocks.

European and Asian manufacturers may be more lax, but OPPO is a North American company, so they are ensuring that their player can't be unlocked through means other than hardware modifications.
post #5525 of 5594
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Originally Posted by hawkster27 View Post

Rohr's Axiom: If there is no solution, there is no problem.

Well, I doubt there is a solution to this problem, but here goes anyway. I recently bought a new, sealed copy of the Stones' More Hot Rocks hybrid SACD. This is a two disc set, and both play wonderfully on my 983 as CDs. Disc 2 plays as a multichannel SACD as well (although the OSD flags it as Stereo). However, Disc 1 only plays the center channel in SACD mode (also flagged as Stereo). Any ideas?

FWIW, here's what fixed this problem: by default, I was overprocessing these discs. Although SACD, they are Stereo only, not multichannel. By turning off Pro Logic II in the 983H (which probably didn't need to be on, regardless) and setting my Onkyo PR-SC885P to Stereo instead of Neo 6, I'm now getting correct output.

Now, if I could just find the SACD of Let It Bleed for less than $30 I'd be all set...
post #5526 of 5594
Here's yet another reason to hold on to our 983Hs as long as they last. I'm a fan of quirky and "weird" (as my wife likes to deride them) films. One of these is Peter Greenaway's The Cook, The Thief, His Wife, and Her Lover. The OOP Region 1 NTSC has been selling on eBay recently for as much as $50 for used copies, and $100 new. I picked up a new R2 PAL disc on Amazon for $7 (missed the earlier $4.50 deal) and of course it plays perfectly on the Oppo. At these prices, I may need to clear a shelf for a whole bunch of new "wierd" imports.
post #5527 of 5594
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Originally Posted by hawkster27 View Post

Here's yet another reason to hold on to our 983Hs as long as they last. I'm a fan of quirky and "weird" (as my wife likes to deride them) films. One of these is Peter Greenaway's The Cook, The Thief, His Wife, and Her Lover. The OOP Region 1 NTSC has been selling on eBay recently for as much as $50 for used copies, and $100 new. I picked up a new R2 PAL disc on Amazon for $7 (missed the earlier $4.50 deal) and of course it plays perfectly on the Oppo. At these prices, I may need to clear a shelf for a whole bunch of new "wierd" imports.

Note there is a thread for everyone's favorite PAL DVD imports: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1252945

-Bill
post #5528 of 5594
I'm posting this message sent to Oppo here, as I'm curious if anyone else is exhibiting this error.
My apologies, as I know this is an older product, but I recently attempted to correct Y/C delay response that I discovered my Oppo 983H was exhibiting on my display (no other devices connected to my display show Y/C delay), so utilizing test patterns and the player's Y/C delay control, I am able to correct that problem. However, when I leave the test pattern (to the discs menu) and then return to the Y/C delay test pattern, its shows Y/C delay again despite adjusting it with the control previously, as if I never adjusted it to begin with (or what it looks like with the '0' setting). Now here is the strange part; while the test pattern is still running (where it looks as if its at '0' when the player is in fact set to '+1'), if I open the Oppo menu and adjust the Y/C delay control (from +1, its corrected value, to +2), the player "wakes up" and there is a large shift in the pixels, as if it suddenly remembered the control was activated. Again though, once I leave the test pattern and then return, the pattern looks as it did when Y/C delay was set to '0'. I am running the latest BETA firmware (and I have tried the last official release), connected directly to the display through HDMI at 720p (though this error still occurs at every resolution). I have tried all four major test discs (Digitial Video Essentials, Avia II, GetGray, and the ABT disc), and I have this Y/C delay pattern problem with all four discs.

I would greatly appreciate any help you're able to provide on this matter. Thank you.
post #5529 of 5594
Well that sounds really strange. If it were a FW problem, it might forget your settings after a power-cycle, but not after leaving the test pattern and returning. Something else must be going on.

I'll check this tonight.

Gary
post #5530 of 5594
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Originally Posted by GSB View Post

Well that sounds really strange. If it were a FW problem, it might forget your settings after a power-cycle, but not after leaving the test pattern and returning. Something else must be going on.

I'll check this tonight.

Gary

Thank you, and agreed regarding its strangeness. I wonder if it could be related to cadence lock?

Oppo too said they would try to replicate the issue.
post #5531 of 5594
Just did some additional testing. I can replicate the error (testing with GetGray and AVIA II) while still in the test pattern by pressing the 'INFO' button; setting the Y/C delay for example to -3, press the INFO button, exiting the browser and the pattern shows how it looked under '0' setting.
post #5532 of 5594
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Originally Posted by Blackrose666 View Post

Hi all,

Just an update for those interested.

The latest firmware update for the Yamaha v1.11 seems to really improve the HDMI compatibility with the 983.

I've done about a weeks testing with firmware v1.11 and so far it has either worked no problems or been able to get 1080p back easily.

When I first updated 1080p worked straight away (or after I turned HDMI output back on, on the 3900 ) it ran fine for several days turning equipment off and on and changing resolutions on the 983.
Now after a few days I turned the 983 and 3900 both on, changed the 3900 from the DTV input it was on to DVD and no sync with the 983, I tried turning 983 off/on no luck turned RX-V3900 off/on still no luck, at this point I'm thinking damn as this is the same behaviour v1.10 showed.

Now this is how I got 1080p back from the 983.

I turned the 983 off, selected a different input(audio only) on the 3900 and waited for the Yamaha background to come up, then switched back to DVD input for the 983 and made sure it still had the Yamaha background screen on this input (when 1080p sync is lost from the 983 no background screen is shown, only blue screen) turned the 983 back on and it synced up at 1080p no problems.

I've only had this happen twice and the above worked to get sync back at 1080p both times.

1 other difference I noticed with firmware v1.11 over v1.10 is that when you go through the resolutions on the 983 1080p takes the same amount of time to sync as other resolutions with v1.11, with v1.10 1080p would take around 4-5 secs longer to sync up when it was working.

Hopefully others with this combination are getting better results with firmware v1.11 aswell.

Cheers!

I have the RX-V3800 model, do you know of a possible solution for that model?
Please advise.
Cheers
post #5533 of 5594
Extremely satisfied with picture quality of the player. A good transfered standart dvd produces a fablous picture. Have blu ray as well and sometimes the difference is not that significant.
One issue I noticed recently was a stuck dvd. Once I had to open up the player to remove the dvd - the other time I could grab it half way out.
Is there any trick to avoid this issue? Is it a known problem with this player?
post #5534 of 5594
Hi, I have been browsing this tread for 3 hours and I gave up. I have a few problems, so here they are.

1. I'm using my 983h with tv Philips PFL9603D. When tv is on, my oppo remote control isn't working. It sometimes takes me up to 20-30 times to press a single button. I heard that the problem is a light sensor on Philips tv models, but turning it off does nothing. Is there some way to change oppo remote frequency? What should I do?

2. Subtitles with more lines are reduced (end of sentence is cut) even when using a smallest font settings. Also missing some palatals letters.

3. First 2 seconds of song is cut off with some hdcd cd's. I took the same CD in a store where I bought a oppo player and problem was the same. So far I bought a 3 or 4 cd's that cause the same problem. One of them is "Willard Grant Conspiracy - Regard the End", just for a record.

4. How can I determine version (European or American) of my player?
post #5535 of 5594
Hoping someone can help me. My oppo 983 just stopped outputting any signal, audio or video, through HDMI.

Component out works as well as optical out is working.

My PS3 is working fine so I tried using it's hdmi cable with the oppo and it made no difference. I used the PS3 video mode on my receiver thinking it may be the hdmi switcher but no luck.

Anyone know what is going on?
post #5536 of 5594
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Originally Posted by Kamikaze13 View Post

Hoping someone can help me. My oppo 983 just stopped outputting any signal, audio or video, through HDMI.

Component out works as well as optical out is working.

My PS3 is working fine so I tried using it's hdmi cable with the oppo and it made no difference. I used the PS3 video mode on my receiver thinking it may be the hdmi switcher but no luck.

Anyone know what is going on?

It sounds busted.

Try unplugging power for 20 minutes. If no good, contact OPPO. They have reasonable fixed-price out of warranty repair.

-Bill
post #5537 of 5594
Wow, there is a 983 on e-bay now with a $420 Buy-it-now price and $25 shipping. It does get tempting when you see that.
post #5538 of 5594
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Originally Posted by moxie1617 View Post

Wow, there is a 983 on e-bay now with a $420 Buy-it-now price and $25 shipping. It does get tempting when you see that.

I say go for it. It's exactly how I got mine (was 50.00 cheaper when I bought it last April). I just love mine and it saves me money in the long run since I don't have to buy certain blu-rays because the 983 makes the dvds look so good. Came home and watched Rocky on dvd tonight since I saw the blu at Wal-Mart for 10.00 and decided to pass since the dvd looked great. For some of the quieter films I don't mind not having the HD soundtracks and it's great to have a dvd player that is region free so I can grab those movies if I find one I really want. Probably the best 425.00 I've spent on my HT upgrade.
post #5539 of 5594
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Originally Posted by subavision212 View Post

I say go for it. It's exactly how I got mine (was 50.00 cheaper when I bought it last April). I just love mine and it saves me money in the long run since I don't have to buy certain blu-rays because the 983 makes the dvds look so good. Came home and watched Rocky on dvd tonight since I saw the blu at Wal-Mart for 10.00 and decided to pass since the dvd looked great. For some of the quieter films I don't mind not having the HD soundtracks and it's great to have a dvd player that is region free so I can grab those movies if I find one I really want. Probably the best 425.00 I've spent on my HT upgrade.

I'm going to have to write better, I meant it's tempting to sell.
post #5540 of 5594
I saw an oppo 983 for sale at amazon for 299.

Jacob
post #5541 of 5594
Hello all. Ive got some dvds which are not very good quality. The material was originally on VHS tapes then recorded to dvd. So the picture is not so great. Will the OPPO DV-983H be able to help the picture quality of the dvds? Or is there nothing that can be done with these dvds since they where recorded first to VHS?
post #5542 of 5594
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Originally Posted by lltoolj View Post

Hello all. Ive got some dvds which are not very good quality. The material was originally on VHS tapes then recorded to dvd. So the picture is not so great. Will the OPPO DV-983H be able to help the picture quality of the dvds? Or is there nothing that can be done with these dvds since they where recorded first to VHS?

My experience with very low quality AVIes or very compressed DVD played on the 983 has been nothing less than stellar. The work on noise that the VRS chip does is simply outstanding, I've never seen better video 'enhancer'. Moreover, it does it with a very 'natural' feel.

Of course, you mileage may vary.
post #5543 of 5594
Bear in mind that garbage in = garbage out. Of course the VRS chipset does wonders, but there's a limit, of course, so don't expect a night and day difference on poor authored dvd's, though.
post #5544 of 5594
Thank you both for your replies. Very helpful
post #5545 of 5594
I just purchased a used 983H to go with my new Panasonic plasma S2; so far I'm very pleased with the results.

I'm not positive if I have the newest firmware installed; anyone know of a way to check this?

Thanks!
post #5546 of 5594
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Originally Posted by Andrius27 View Post

I just purchased a used 983H to go with my new Panasonic plasma S2; so far I'm very pleased with the results.

I'm not positive if I have the newest firmware installed; anyone know of a way to check this?

Thanks!

See OPPO's support page: http://www.oppodigital.com/dv983h/dv983h_support.asp

It describes how to check your firmware version and has links to the last production and beta firmware.

I'd use the beta.

-Bill
post #5547 of 5594
Thanks for the quick response! Looks like I'm up to date (not counting the beta, which doesn't really affect me at this point).
post #5548 of 5594
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I'd use the beta.

Why do you say that Bill?; I have installed the latest non-beta release, should i go for the beta?.
Thank you.
Eduardo.
post #5549 of 5594
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Originally Posted by defuentes View Post

Why do you say that Bill?; I have installed the latest non-beta release, should i go for the beta?.
Thank you.
Eduardo.

The first post in this thread describes what's new in each firmware level. If you don't need any of the changes since your installed version, then it's not important to install the beta.

-Bill
post #5550 of 5594
In perfect darkness, I can sometimes see the faint red glow of the laser through the disc tray's outline while watching a movie. I noticed it the other night when I was sitting in the sweet spot in my ht, I was sitting in my home theatre recliner with my legs folded under me. It is only when I sit in that spot with my legs folded under me that this event manifests.
The Oppo people said that from certain angles this is certainly possible. Has this been observed by anyone else?
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