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post #121 of 6754
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Originally Posted by slprp1 View Post

......Here's where the manual, on board channel buttons (for your "watching" box) would really come in handy. It made sense to Zenith/Insignia (both LG products) and there may be others as well. I still protest the fact that they couldn't add $1.00 worth of additional parts to this (otherwise perhaps interesting) box!

Don't you get it? This is not about "saving" our VCRs for continued use.

This is about the corporations forcing us to upgrade to new VCRs or DVRs with built-in digital tuners. This is about corporations selling more product so they can earn more profit. ----- If it were up to them, these converter boxes wouldn't even exist. They'd want us to go out and buy whole new TVs. Therefore the corporations are making these boxes to be as "inconvenient" as possible, so you'll feel the need to go out & buy new equipment.

They don't want you to use your old VCR or old TV. They want you to say, "This is too much hassle," and buy all-new equipment.
post #122 of 6754
P.S.

My coupons expire July 7. Do you think the Echostar will be available before that date? (I am inclined to think "no".)
post #123 of 6754
remember someone had an email from echostar that said they would honor expired coupons and posted it in this thread. I would find that email and send another to echostar asking if it was true and make sure there are no gimmicks attached.
post #124 of 6754
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Originally Posted by dagger666 View Post

remember someone had an email from echostar that said they would honor expired coupons and posted it in this thread. I would find that email and send another to echostar asking if it was true and make sure there are no gimmicks attached.

Why would anyone accept an expired coupon? The gov't wouldn't pay on it, so it'll end up that the acceptor asborbs that cost. For Echostar to do so on a $40 MSRP unit, that means they'll be giving it away for free which I don't think they will do.

But let's keep our fingers crossed anyway.
post #125 of 6754
Why can't a supplier take payment from an active CECB Coupon now, back order the unit, then send it out when ready (June)?
post #126 of 6754
If they read the MaxMedia thread they sure wouldn't want to do that. Besides it's been posted that that's illegal according to the govt. guidelines.
post #127 of 6754
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Originally Posted by Jake247 View Post

Why can't a supplier take payment from an active CECB Coupon now, back order the unit, then send it out when ready (June)?

Jake, what happens then if the unit never comes to market, or if the dealer can't get any, or if the dealer can't get enough to cover the orders from all the people who've sacrificed coupons for it?  The coupon rules don't permit refunding the coupon value to the customer.
post #128 of 6754
like i said write them and ask, it was posted in an email from the company in this thread. How many coupons do you think Echostar would have to eat, most have already bought a box since they are not making this offer public. You also would need to check if their is some kind of gimmick attached. They make a bundle on the dish network the little money they would loss won't even be noticed and what they could gain in subscribers for a company that ate $40 expired coupons could be millions, it's called good PR.
post #129 of 6754
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Originally Posted by dagger666 View Post

remember someone had an email from echostar that said they would honor expired coupons and posted it in this thread. I would find that email and send another to echostar asking if it was true and make sure there are no gimmicks attached.

When the box was 1st announced, someone form EchoStar said that the box was going to be used to gain "name recognition" for the EchoStar/Dish brand in hopes that if the customer later decided that they would like to get more TV stations, Dish would be the 1st name on their list.

Thus the box is somewhat like a "free sample" & they could easily afford to give them away.
post #130 of 6754
By the way. In January the old Echostar broke into two companies. One is now called Dish Network and runs the satellite TV service. The other is Echostar and manufactures and sells TV electronics. This CECB is made by the latter.

One of the rational for dividing the company is so that the manufacturing side of the company could sell without having to protect the satellite business. I suspect this box and the OTA DVR box are a result of that decision.

Rick R
post #131 of 6754
My coupons expire on 7/16/08, I hope Echostar makes the TR40 available by that time. I also hope that they are available for you other people who are getting close to your expiration date.
post #132 of 6754
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Originally Posted by rdgcss View Post

When the box was 1st announced, someone form EchoStar said that the box was going to be used to gain "name recognition" for the EchoStar/Dish brand in hopes that if the customer later decided that they would like to get more TV stations, Dish would be the 1st name on their list.

Thus the box is somewhat like a "free sample" & they could easily afford to give them away.

Some "free sample" and "good PR" when the box they're giving away can give the people much better PQ than what they offer for a fee!
post #133 of 6754
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Originally Posted by Rick_R View Post

One of the rational for dividing the company is so that the manufacturing side of the company could sell without having to protect the satellite business. I suspect this box and the OTA DVR box are a result of that decision.

Yes, thanks to TiVo.
post #134 of 6754
http://www.solidsignal.com/prod_disp...om=Large#xview
Listed for pre-orders, no coupons for pre-orders.
post #135 of 6754
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Originally Posted by Rammitinski View Post

Some "free sample" and "good PR" when the box they're giving away can give the people much better PQ than what they offer for a fee!

the box is nothing, it comes down to content. will digital OTA tv provide more content that cable or dish, it has a chance with 6 sud channles per station if they play it right.
post #136 of 6754
This box is on pre-order only, and will not be instock until the week of june 16th
post #137 of 6754
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Originally Posted by dagger666 View Post

the box is nothing, it comes down to content. will digital OTA tv provide more content that cable or dish, it has a chance with 6 sud channles per station if they play it right.

God, don't even say that.
post #138 of 6754
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Originally Posted by dagger666 View Post

This box is on pre-order only, and will not be instock until the week of june 16th

Excellent! My coupons expire the 27th.
post #139 of 6754
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Originally Posted by dagger666 View Post

This box is on pre-order only, and will not be instock until the week of june 16th

Dang, my coupons expire on June 12th. Oh well it looks like i'll be looking for a different brand for my second one.
post #140 of 6754
post #141 of 6754
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Originally Posted by dontbugme View Post

http://www.nulime.com/Digital-Analog...verter/p284135

instock May 21

Does this site allow use of the $40 coupon?
post #142 of 6754
All echostar press releases (If this helps anyone...)
http://sats.client.shareholder.com/releases.cfm

Perhaps official release dates or info will appear here ...




Official TR-40 release...
http://sats.client.shareholder.com/r...leaseID=284881
''The box will be sold under both the EchoStar and Sling Media, Inc. brand names''

Sling Media's version of PR
http://www.slingmedia.com/get/pr-converterboxes.html

TR-50 Wins ''Best of CES''
http://sats.client.shareholder.com/r...leaseID=286289
post #143 of 6754
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Originally Posted by Rammitinski View Post

Some "free sample" and "good PR" when the box they're giving away can give the people much better PQ than what they offer for a fee!

Most people seem to be interested in quantity, not quality -they just want a whole bunch of stations & don't really care about how much the picture is compressed.
post #144 of 6754
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Originally Posted by KCC07 View Post

Does this site allow use of the $40 coupon?

In the description it says free with coupon but then their price is 40.95 so it looks like they just took the text from Dish..... and almost $10 in shipping.

I have a feeling this site may know that there are many folks looking for this CECB with coupons set to expire on 5/23 and set the availability date to capture those orders - regardless if they actually have the units.
post #145 of 6754
If you click B/O a space is available for coupon.

But it won't accept either coupon.
post #146 of 6754
I have a Sony PIP TV with 2 analog tuners and a Panasonic DVR/VCR with digital and analog tuners.
My question. How many converters will I need if I want to watch 2 different TV programs with the VCR turned off? Will the DVR/VCR work even if it isn't turned on for one tuner or do I need 2 converters one for each TV analog tuner.

Have another analog TV with analog VCR. Do I need 1 or 2 converters for this one if I want to watch TV with the VCR turned off?
post #147 of 6754
You need two for the Sony - tho you could get away with just one if you'd use the tuner in the VCR.

You need one for the other TV.
post #148 of 6754
How do I hook the converter up to each TV?

Also if the converter would work on the analog TV even if the VCR is turned off why wouldn't just 1 work on the Sony?

This is so confusing. I really thank you for your help.
post #149 of 6754
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Originally Posted by daiquiri View Post

How do I hook the converter up to each TV?

Also if the converter would work on the analog TV even if the VCR is turned off why wouldn't just 1 work on the Sony?

This is so confusing. I really thank you for your help.

Use either coax via the RF input or composite cable via the video input.

I assumed you wanted the PIP feature - for that you need 2 tuners, either two converters or one converter and the VCR. If you don't need PIP one converter is enough - or you don't need a converter at all - just use the VCR.
BTW if the PIP feature only works via the TV's built in tuners then you'll definitely need 2 converters using the coax outputs.
post #150 of 6754
I just got a Harmony One (Logitech all in one remote...will that work 2 converters from 2 different manufacturers???????) And I was falling in love with the EchoStar...now I need a second converter from a different manufacturer?

The simpler setup with the analog VCR...How do I set up the converter? I figured it goes on the VCR not the TV...how would I use the VCR to record?

Gosh this is confusing....you guys are the best.
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