Re: My Panny E85H connected to the Pal+ in cable box mode using OTA
OK, it's been over 12 hours later from my last posting and TVGOS show info for a couple of days was filled in overnight. However.... lots of channels were missing that my Pal+ receives, there were station duplicates, there were channels that didn't have any connection to my Pal+ and were asking to be scanned for. A real mess. One of the stations on the guide was WABC News Channel 8? Never heard of it. It's always been Channel 7 in NYC. And some Channel 20 called WTXXD. It's not even on cable. Never heard of it in my 50 years of watching TV in NYC. Must be from some other region.
Worst of all, all these stations that are being fed to the Panny are some sort of a low resolution SD output. They weren't standard definition, they were of even lower quality than that. You could see pixel lines. (I'm using an 19" LCD HD display for testing this setup) The Panny or Pal+ must have been fed some crappy resolution data.http://www.flickr.com/photos/8219571@N08/3526801390
There were no digital stations on the Panny whatsoever and certainly no subchannels (and I normally get a dozen or so subs). Most of my higher UHF stations were missing on the Panny TVGOS. I don't know how to explain it. There's no reason for the channel mapping to be so screwed up.
The Pal+ in standard mode gives me nice digital high-quality video, so how the heck these low resolution non-digital stations leaked through is beyond me. And no, I did not have the Pal+ set for analog pass-through. It was showing digital pictures before and after I put it in cable box mode. I'm sure my equipment is working just fine, but whatever data is getting fed to the Panny must be a garbled mess.
So, how I got my Pal+ to gather data for my Panny was to give the Pal+ another zip code in my area. I used a zip code from my local TimeWarner Cable center which is about a mile north or so from where I live. I had tried a couple of different zip codes because I had read here http://home1.gte.net/res18h39/tvgos....m/general.html
that TVGOS might not be able to match certain zip codes and I wouldn't get any data. So I put in zip code 11355 which is where one of the TWC centers is and that seemed to grab data much faster. So anyone in Queens should try that zip code. That zip code gives the same channel lineup to the Pal+ in standard mode as my real zip code does. I had also set the Pal+ to Zoom mode but I had already done that before this new zip code and still didn't get any data.
I can't logically troubleshoot stuff the way many of you fellow members can and I make assumptions due to lack of understanding all these subcarrier signals, imbedded data and stuff. I totally don't understand video carrier signals at all. One of you mentioned that I had gotten the proper Host station for NYC and I didn't catch that at all. So if that's correct, then I'm only going to assume they are not sending out the proper data yet because channel lineups are wrong and no digital stations.
I only can say that at least 96% of the people that are going to rely on TVGOS would be in my category and it's insane to think it's going to be this difficult once the transition is complete. I'm sure most of you know what you're doing is correct as far as the setup is concerned, but as you can see the results are varied and mostly unsatisfactory.
Look, the OTA signal in my area is mainly generated from one powerful source, the Empire State Building and maybe two other weak sources, so, no matter what zip code is put in the Pal+, for a three mile radius around that transmitter has to give the same channels and that's that. So why the hell are all those channel listings out of whack? Assuredly, incorrect data sent from the Host station. No way I can get around that. The data being sent from the Host station must be incomplete to miss all those common channels. I'd estimate the Panny got 10-12 viewable channels out of my 35 normally viewable ones. That's plain stupid.
During the time I was typing this info, the Pal+ seemed to have gone to sleep, stopped sending video to the Panny and even though the green light blinked when I changed channels using the Panny remote, no video ever resumed so I suppose it's gone bye-bye temporarily. If I use the Pal+ remote, the Revert Back To Standard Mode message pops up, so it's not completely dead, just no more video which makes it temporarily useless.
I'll be glad to answer any specific questions if I'm able to or take screen shots or whatever is needed if it will be of any use. Sorry if I could have condensed stuff, but my thoughts are kind of random. I'm really just about done with this stuff until 30 or so more days pass. I wish the rest of you the best of luck if you think you can get proper data sooner. I've done the best I could with what little knowledge I possess and met with failure.