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post #6541 of 6754
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Originally Posted by phildaant View Post

I did, but that didn't work. I had to wait a few minutes for it to come back. In the past, I have seen it take a few hours.

What version is your firmware on that box?
post #6542 of 6754
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Originally Posted by lgodave View Post

You might not be looking hard enough. (Or your market is in fact "out")

It might be cheating but I just visited a "Liquidators" store... that had several Memorex MVCB1000 (a "beast" of a Converter box by the picture on the box) and Craig Electronics model CVD506 (or 508) units. They wanted $35 each and only issues were the boxes are a bit beat up... (Not as bad as the DTVPal Plus box which looked like it had been run over)

Do you know where I can see pictures of the EPG of the Memorex MVCB1000
ty

OK found the manual and the EPG is really bad but the box does look nice
post #6543 of 6754
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Originally Posted by Whidbey View Post

That would be nice, but I think it's slightly more... Sears

oppps it was just $285 I made a mistake
post #6544 of 6754
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Originally Posted by lexus2108 View Post

Do you know where I can see pictures of the EPG of the Memorex MVCB1000
ty

OK found the manual and the EPG is really bad but the box does look nice

I assume it has a Now/Next type EPG and the graphics design does make that box look like a tank... Kind of reminds me of my late 90's DVD825 Philips/Magnavox DVD Player. Yet for the user that wants to "see" their converter box, I'm sure this will do nicely.
post #6545 of 6754
I would be surprised if any manufacturer is still making them since they are obsolete. Since they quit making analog (only) tvs several years ago, the number of analog tvs in service has been decreasing (even up to the transition). The transition required each analog tv in use at that time to have a box. And if the assumption is made that this is now true then there is no longer a market for the product in practical numbers. Even if the failure rate of the existing converter boxes exceeds that of the existing of analog televisions, I see no viable market and I believe the opposite will be true: there will be an increasing number of available used converter boxes as analog tvs fail and/or are scrapped.
post #6546 of 6754
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Originally Posted by ucmerick View Post

I would be surprised if any manufacturer is still making them since they are obsolete. .....I see no viable market .....

Except in Canada. Identical digital TV specs and transitioning OTA in Aug 2011.
post #6547 of 6754
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Originally Posted by ucmerick
I would be surprised if any manufacturer is still making them since they are obsolete. .....I see no viable market .....

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Originally Posted by smpowell View Post

Except in Canada. Identical digital TV specs and transitioning OTA in Aug 2011.

Won't 2007 technology be obsolete by 2011?
post #6548 of 6754
They probably wouldn't even want to buy most of these buggy, junky boxes up there.
post #6549 of 6754
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Originally Posted by Rammitinski View Post

They probably wouldn't even want to buy most of these buggy, junky boxes up there.

They are exactly what you get when you have to buy them and they are meant to last less than 3 years (not a durable good like a tv)!
post #6550 of 6754
CAN the DTVPAL be found anywhere? Can it be purchased anywhere?
post #6551 of 6754
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Originally Posted by lexus2108 View Post

CAN the DTVPAL be found anywhere? Can it be purchased anywhere?

Ebay and craigslist.org sometimes when you are lucky.
post #6552 of 6754
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Originally Posted by lexus2108 View Post

CAN the DTVPAL be found anywhere? Can it be purchased anywhere?

Keep checking your local Sears. Ask them what days they get shipments and call the next day after they have time to stock the stuff (ask them how long it takes to stock the stuff too). I've been calling mine and unfortunately these people don't know what's been ordered, they have to wait to unpack and stock it. Sad. One guy told me there was an email circulating about getting more in due to all the enquiries. I read on this MB that some stores in CA recently got more in so there is hope.
post #6553 of 6754
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Originally Posted by TalkingRat View Post

>>>Originally Posted by ucmerick
I would be surprised if any manufacturer is still making them since they are obsolete. .....I see no viable market .....

>>Except in Canada. Identical digital TV specs and transitioning OTA in Aug 2011.

>Won't 2007 technology be obsolete by 2011?

Economicaly no. Even if someone comes up with a 7th generation tuner, it's hard to believe that the canadian OTA market would justify the cost of a major redesign. Most of the converters were updated in 2008 so the better ones are already refined designs.

On the other hand, there is no sign of a coupon program up North, so we can always dream of someone bringing out a cheap ATSC/QAM converter to cover both the OTA and digital "open" cable markets. Back when converters first showed up there was speculation that some were designed with QAM in mind, and were just crippled to meet coupon program specs. No coupon program means no QAM restriction.
post #6554 of 6754
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Originally Posted by Whidbey View Post

Ebay and craigslist.org sometimes when you are lucky.

used or new?
post #6555 of 6754
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Originally Posted by smpowell View Post

On the other hand, there is no sign of a coupon program up North, so we can always dream of someone bringing out a cheap ATSC/QAM converter to cover both the OTA and digital "open" cable markets.

There already are a few of those out here right now that are under $100.00 (though they can never keep them in stock). That's about the cheapest you're probaby going to get. Anything with QAM will not be cheaper than the most expensive CECB.
post #6556 of 6754
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Originally Posted by Rammitinski View Post

There already are a few of those out here right now that are under $100.00 (though they can never keep them in stock). That's about the cheapest you're probaby going to get. Anything with QAM will not be cheaper than the most expensive CECB.

Just wondering, what models are showing up in Canadian stores? Are they decent ones like the Zenith or are they the so-so models that you can still find new in the US?
post #6557 of 6754
Speaking of QAM, I wonder if the chips in any of these CECBs support it given the right code and a few hardware mods?
post #6558 of 6754
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Originally Posted by smpowell View Post

Just wondering, what models are showing up in Canadian stores?

That I wouldn't know. All the ones here are only avalable on the internet.

I hope for their sake they get better than what we've got - I hear about a lot of QC issues with the ones here (in the threads here and in customer reviews on the net).
post #6559 of 6754
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Originally Posted by Floydage View Post

Speaking of QAM, I wonder if the chips in any of these CECBs support it given the right code and a few hardware mods?

I'm pretty sure the answer to that is no.
post #6560 of 6754
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Originally Posted by lexus2108 View Post

What version is your firmware on that box?

Sorry for the late reply... F105 (screen capture: http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/2702/snapshotqoq.png ).
post #6561 of 6754
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Originally Posted by phildaant View Post

Sorry for the late reply... F105 (screen capture: http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/2702/snapshotqoq.png ).

What was the original question lol
post #6562 of 6754
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Originally Posted by lexus2108 View Post

What was the original question lol

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...5#post17330805 :P
post #6563 of 6754
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Time changes are a bug. 106 fw is the best firmware ,but still have bugs.

Too bad no way to update FW. The DTVPAL DVR has two ways to update.
post #6564 of 6754
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Originally Posted by lexus2108 View Post

used or new?

Used and considering someone got mine on eBay for almost $50 the prices are holding up very well. If anyone has any of these laying around, this is a good time to unload them.
post #6565 of 6754
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Originally Posted by biker19 View Post

Used and considering someone got mine on eBay for almost $50 the prices are holding up very well. If anyone has any of these laying around, this is a good time to unload them.

I have a brand new TR-40cra, still sealed in the box, never been opened. Pretty sure it has firmware 105 according to the serial number, and the fact that I bought it at the same time as another that has 105. I believe firmware versions 105 and 106 are the same.

I've had it listed on craigslist.org for a few weeks now at $40, but so far no takers. I don't really care for e-bay that much.
post #6566 of 6754
Heh, I have 3 still sealed in my closet somewhere. I should get rid of them while I still can...
post #6567 of 6754
I have a few barely-used Zinwell ZAT-970As. I didn't need to use them but preferred to run them (hopefully) enough shake out any infant mortality-type defects since I knew the warranties would expire before doing anything with them.
post #6568 of 6754
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Originally Posted by Symbios View Post

Heh, I have 3 still sealed in my closet somewhere. I should get rid of them while I still can...

eBay is the way to go - Craigslist doesn't seem to do as well.
post #6569 of 6754
I have had a VCR go out and replaced it with a Magnavox DVD Recorder and 4-Head Hi-Fi Stereo VCR, (Model: ZV457MG9 which HAS a ATSC tunner built in). I have not had time to try setting this up but would like to be able to use it in such a way that I can be recording from one station via this DVD Recorder/VCR and using my Pal to watch another. Has anyone successfully done this? Neither manual seems to give any real guidance for doing this.

Any help available with be greatly appreciated.
Jane B.
post #6570 of 6754
Hook the DVD/VCR up to a line in port on the TV, and put the DTVPAL on the RF input (or a 2nd line input on the TV). Use an RF splitter coming out of the wall, with one output on the splitter going to the DTVPAL and one to your DVD/VCR.
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