Dish DTVPal / Echostar TR40 digital to analog converter - Page 26

I just confirmed the right directional button brings it up. Additionally, if you have a timer scheduled for a particular show it will display like a little green clock icon.


Back in the old days I had a dedicated ATSC tuner stb feeding my projector. Then I moved to clear QAM. Then I just gave in and got CableCARDs. I'm on a special with Comcast for $60/mo which includes digital cable AND broadand - basically I get all the television channels for free for the price of high speed Internet. For ten more months anyway. Unless FiOS gets here first.

Thanks Dave, Your the best

Just to confirm once your watching a tv channel if you push the right arrow button you get the show description. is this correct?

Also if you continue to push the right arrow button do you get later hours of what is on? like 7pm then 8pm then 9pm ect?

How do you clear it after your done? or does it clear itself

thanks

hmm..I get broadband (up to 6 mbs) for $35 (ATT Yahoo)

No, if you continue to press the 'Right' button it will move ahead to the next show, as Rammitinski said. You press the 'Info' button to get a show description.


You press 'Cancel' or keep pressing the 'Left' button until it clears. I'm not sure if it times out or not. It probably does eventually.

If you look at the picture I posted you will see a right arrow next to the FRIENDS tv show info. It seems that if you click the right arrow you will get latter Tv show times like 8pm 10pm ect Why would there be a arrow if you can not advance the hours?

" I understand perfectly. Like I said above - you hit the "right" cursor button on the remote and the BOTTOM banner shown in that picture comes up."
by Rammitinski

So it seems to me if you keep pushing the right cursor button you will get later time shows info. Just trying to get the guys with the box to confirm that

Scott's pictures do not even show the show info on the Tv channel page. This is why I asked what does one need to do to get that info and skip ahead to later times

So

You can advance the hours. Continually pressing the right cursor button will do that.

That is a great feature. Any idea on how many hours in advance you can go in that mode? This is a similar feature to the MagnavoxG9 that gives 4 hours in advance.

This is a nice feature if you do not want to use the guide. Dish thought ahead on this one.

Ok One more Different question.

For analog passthr you press the passthru button on the remote. Then you select yes or no to the question "do you really want to do this"

Question is after you go into analog passthru mode. How do you go back to box mode?

Again thanks to the guys with the boxes for giving us this information.

YES to his confirmation of what I first said, and

YES, if you keep pressing the right cursor button, it'll keep showing ahead another half hour, possibly until the info actually runs out.

And you can clear it by hitting an Exit button, or letting it time out (which might take awhile and keep blocking the picture, so you'll most likely just use the Exit button).

I'm a Dish customer, and trust me - the remote, menu, guide and OSD's work and look EXACTLY the same as the ones I've been using for the last 3 1/2 years.

So far there has not been ONE EXCEPTION to this - I see no reason for any of the answers to the few questions of it's workings left to stray from it. EVERYTHING we know for sure so far about it (which is about 90% of all there is to know) works EXACTLY like Dish's equipment - at least like my standard def 322 tuner and it's remote. They OBVIOUSLY modeled this EXACTLY after the Dish ware, because their main reason for even bothering releasing these things is to tie people in to getting used to using the equipment from their service, right down to the minutest detail and feature. It's like a big advertisment for the service, but actually goes one better, because it puts everything about the service right into your home and hands sans all the pay-for programming that they offer - just the free, OTA channels that you're gonna get anyway with someone else's receiver, if not theirs - so it might as well be theirs. Very very smart marketing move, if you ask me.

It is a nice feature. One thing I always missed about having Dish was that browse banner. But D* also has it now, so I don't care anymore.

I assume the browse banner will go as far ahead as the PSIP data will let it.

And on the passthrough, I would also assume pressing it would toggle back and fourth, much like the TV/VCR button on your VCR remote does.

Do we know for sure if the pass-through will work only when the box is off, like most of the others, or has that not been covered yet? I don't recall.

Or it would have been if they hadn't gotten greedy at the last minute and raised the price. Now the average CECB buyer will say "Why should I go out of my way to order a Dish box when I can get a Zenith at the mall for the same price?"

Good to know - less of a learning curve for the babysitter... "It works just like your parents dish..."

well the box has to be on to push the passthru button. So I assume the box stays on during passthru?

your buying the guide and 24 hour advance psip Zenith a nice box has just now and next. Maganavoxg9 has 4 hours ahead. I like 24 hours and I been hearing days in advance

After seeing just about every other box go up in price so far, was I really the only person around here who didn't expect the same with the DTVPal?

I pretty much knew it wasn't going to end up being 40 bucks with all those extra features - I just wasn't sure how high it would go.

You still have to expect it to be priced relative to the other CECB boxes, which is what it is, first and foremost.

Just like I've always posted here that I fully do not expect the TR-50 to be priced at a ridiculously low $200.00-$250.00 like so many naive people around here seem to think, when or if it ever comes out. I've been around this stuff long enough to know the relative value of it.

You get what you pay for, especially with all this cheap, Chinese electronic junk out there now, so I'm kind of glad they're not giving them away. By the time the coupon program is over, I'm thinkin' you might see that $40.00 DTVPal version then.

EPG and event timers and an on/off cc toggle are good features. But it will cost more: you don't get the RCA cables with DTVPal and if you need a universal remote, you're already up at least $20 over the Zenith if you want basic tv functions on the same remote.

Yeah. See if you can set the "timer" by day/time/channel/duration rather that by program name from the guide. Thanks.

If $250 is ridiculously low for the TR-50, I'll be looking at the even more ridiculously low DVRs already on the market. I don't need a Ferrari to record for my analog tv.

Not even a mention of timers in this review. Sigh...

You can get cables as good as the ones you get with the Zenith for a couple of bucks. I had one - they're cheapos. And you don't really need a universal remote with the DTVPal anymore than you would with any other box.

I'm pretty sure that Scott from Satellite Guys said that it did have a manual timer after checking thoroughly when asked specifically by someone. I believe he even showed a picture of the menu page for it. Either that or maybe Malouff posted it here. I'm positive I saw it somewhere.

Read Scott's review also if you haven't.

(www.satelliteguys.us)

I know there are cheaper cables, but if I have to drive 40 miles or pay postage, they are not cheaper. And if I want one remote for box and tv on/off, I do too need a universal remote with the DTVPal, unlike many other boxes that include basic tv functions on the cecb remote. So I figure $5 cables plus $15 remote is as good as it gets in this town.

The actual review just says:

"The DTVPal also has other features I haven’t seen on other DTV converters including the ability to search the guide, the ability to set timers, or the ability to be controlled by TV Guide On Screen (TVGOS)."

I haven't read through all 8 pages of the "Q&A" stuff yet. Maybe it's there. I saw that someone *asked* the question, but didn't see an answer. This is a "buy-don't buy issue with me.

get the RCA for the remote then lol

I have a few learning and universal remotes around anyway, so I don't wear any of the originals out. The uni's are usually cheaper to replace than the original ones (especially with the shipping).

Might've been somewhere else then, or in one of the posts after the review.

I swear I absolutely did see a screen shot of the timer page somewhere - I just can't remember where.

I knew someone was going to say that!

It was a rhetorical question. I'm well aware of the features of the DTVpal and there's no doubt that I'll be getting at least one for myself, but the vast majority of consumers are totally clueless when it comes to these features. Imagine this scenario: the Zenith and Dish boxes are sitting side by side on a shelf. People look at the Dish box, see the words "Dish Network" and think "Oh, that's satellite, that's not what I'm looking for" and grab the Zenith. If they had kept the price below that of the other boxes, these things would be flying off the shelves like condoms on prom night. Even if people were totally clueless about the technical differences (which they are) they'd buy the Dish boxes based on price alone. And that was the original plan.

As for me, I need 4 converter boxes. There's no doubt that I'll be getting a DTVpal for myself. I totally need the passthru and the timer. Couldn't care less about the EPG. As for the other 3 boxes, they're going to be used by other people who are so clueless they can barely manage to use their TV's now with just the one remote. I just know I'm going to be getting daily "tech support" calls from them when they have 2 remotes to deal with. For that reason alone I'm leaning towards other boxes for them. Believe me, they wouldn't know the difference.

My question is: does the box *have* to be on for passthru to work? If you're watching the output of the box through the RF output and you turn the box power off, will the box automatically switch to passthru mode?

satelliteguys.us timer image

Zatz DTVPal Setup, Part 2
The last image is not timer related

That third picture in that block of five shows it pefectly. Thanks.