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post #1 of 19
Thread Starter 
I'm designing, more or less, speaker covers and not really a full false wall. I have a few questions.

Should I have the entire stage covered with carpet first and then build the framing and fabric covered panels on top of it? Should I build the framing and fabric covered panels and then have the stage covered with carpet up to the framing and panels?

Do you think it's better to make custom AT panels to fit the framing or is it better to make the framing fit standard fabric stretcher panels?

Thanks in advance!

Dave
post #2 of 19
Millions of ways to do it. I built the frame and had the carpet installed after, so behind my false wall is just plywood (no carpet). I built custom fabric covered panels to attach to the false wall frame.

False wall frame:


Fames built but not covered with fabric yet. Frames are attached with velcro:


Carpet installed:
post #3 of 19
Thread Starter 
mbgonzomd,

Did you build the fabric covered panels after the carpet was installed? I'm concerned about lining up the top edge of the panels with the framing.

Thanks for the reply.

Dave
post #4 of 19
Uhhhh, well, you see...ahhh...hummmm.

I built the panels before the carpet was installed. After the carpet was installed the panels did not fit anymore. I tried to leave some wiggle room, but I did not leave enough. It was not that big of a deal though, I just removed the staples from the bottom of the 2 lower side panels and pulled the fabric back a little. I then ran that edge over the table saw and cut about 1/2" off the bottom. Then I reattached the fabric again. Took about 45 minutes to fix. The large panel in the middle did not require any adjustment because I could shift it up a little since the top lies behind the screen.
post #5 of 19
Carpet first, panels on top. I used 1/2 inch pieces of MDF to reserve space for carpet and pad, it was a little tight but no surgery required.

I actually just had them carpet up to the supports for the false wall. The panels cover the carpet edge. Saved some $$ by not having the entire area carpeted.
post #6 of 19
I carpeted up to screen wall framing and the made panels to fit after.
post #7 of 19
Is MDF the best choice for framing? Price, acoustic concern, ability to hold the shape after a few years?
post #8 of 19
Thread Starter 
Did anyone have a pad put on their stage under the carpet? I'm just trying to figure out if a 1/2" allowance for the carpet will be enough or do I need to allow for the pad as well?

Dave
post #9 of 19
I read a post (wish I could remember which but I've done nothing today except read posts). They didn't compensate and ended up taking a half inch off their bottom panels (removed the AT fabric, cut a 1/2" in off and stapled it back on. From what I remember it was medium carpet, so unless you have extremely thick carpet I think 1/2" is right.
post #10 of 19
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Originally Posted by Dave J View Post

Did anyone have a pad put on their stage under the carpet? I'm just trying to figure out if a 1/2" allowance for the carpet will be enough or do I need to allow for the pad as well?

Dave

Dave:
I put a pad under my carpet for my stage.

I built the screen frame first, then like others, laid the carpet after I had the frame down. I built my "proscenium" AFTER I carpetted, so I avoided the fitting problem.

Worked like a champ!
Best,
Chinaclipper
Tom
post #11 of 19
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Originally Posted by distoga View Post

I read a post (wish I could remember which but I've done nothing today except read posts). They didn't compensate and ended up taking a half inch off their bottom panels (removed the AT fabric, cut a 1/2" in off and stapled it back on. From what I remember it was medium carpet, so unless you have extremely thick carpet I think 1/2" is right.

Would that be post #4 in this thread?
post #12 of 19
Fella's...how are you attaching the framed sections to the wall framing?
post #13 of 19
If you are referring to the fabric covered frames being attached to the skeleton walls, then:

1)Velcro
2)speaker grill clips (partsexpress.com)
3)Finish nails though the fabric and driven below the surface with a nail set
4) cabinet latches
5) screwed from behind

combination of above

I thought originally I was going to need Velcro but it turned out all of my panels are snug and are just friction fit into place.
post #14 of 19
Thanks BIG...alright...one question down!!! 999,999 more to go...lol.

I don't want a permanently attached solution...I'll check out those grill guides.
post #15 of 19
I did carpet and pad first and then built my screen wall on top. I thought if I ever wanted to reconfigure my screen wall I wouldn't have to worry about having to have the carpet redone if my new wall did not match the original foot print of the old wall.
post #16 of 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by BIGmouthinDC View Post

1)Velcro
2)speaker grill clips (partsexpress.com)
3)Finish nails though the fabric and driven below the surface with a nail set
4) cabinet latches
5) screwed from behind

combination of above

6) magnets (countersunk & glued is best)
post #17 of 19
Thread Starter 
Thanks everyone for all of the input.

Dave
post #18 of 19
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Originally Posted by BIGmouthinDC View Post

Would that be post #4 in this thread?


post #19 of 19
I built my screen wall first then had the carpet and pad installed. After they finished the carpet I cover the screen wall with GOM black.
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