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Women on the forum chime in on how important are colors? Or,get your wife to say.

post #1 of 30
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post #2 of 30
Interesting thought. I wonder if there will be a difference. I know for my wife, she couldn't care less about the picture (they all look good to her), but man if the physical projector is bad...
post #3 of 30
Your wife has a-whole-nother level of interest than my wife. I cannot even get mine to hardly watch a movie...it's usually just my kids and I.
post #4 of 30
I think the first query should be -
"Any women on the forum", period...

=D
post #5 of 30
I would venture to guess not many. Most tech geeks like myself are of the male persuasion.
post #6 of 30
My girlfriend is definitely sensitive to oversaturated colours. I sometimes have problems getting the right black level from my HTPC, which makes the picture washed out. This she never comments on and also gets mighty annoyed when I interrupt the movie trying to fix the brighness/contrast settings. However, if we are watching a movie with oversaturated colours (I think one example was Oceans thirteen), she immediately asks me if there is something wrong with the projector and if I can fix it.

She even silently commented to me that my father’s plasma had a really bad picture when we were watching a soccer game at my parents’ house. When I persuaded my father to try to change from the dynamic setting to cinema it was much, much better to her.

My parents is another story though; my father prefers the oversaturated colours in the dynamic mode, whereas my mother never comments on the picture at all and don’t seem to care that much.
post #7 of 30
Most women I have known have been more sensitive than I am to fine gradations in image and sound.

However, being able to pick differences is not the same as caring about them.

None have cared if things aren't quite right. They have all viewed my pickiness and obsessiveness as insane and something akin to adult onset OSD, and they treated me with the requisite condescension.

Given I'm also an audiofool who has built his own speakers they have had much about which to condescend.

At least projectors produce visible differences.

Try explaining 'airiness', 'image depth' or 'dipole bass definition' to your skeptical gal.
post #8 of 30
Both my wife and I like accurate colors and it is important to both of us.
post #9 of 30
My wife and I had a great relationship until I got my RS1.

Although the colors don't bother me, they made her very upset. She got so upset, in fact, that she left me and took my daughter with her. She left saying something about how the grass in the Shire in the Lord of the Rings and in Seabiscuit were assaults on her eyes. The police agreed and took me away.

Now my life is ruined and I just sit in my theater all day and night and curse those oversaturated colors.

Woe is me.
post #10 of 30
Before I mention anything my gf thinks wwhat exactly do we mean by oversaturated. Now I like deep rich vibrant colors. However saturation such usually affects skin tones from what I have seen and made them red, and I am very picky about skin tones.


Im just trying to figure out what category I am in.

IM also a plasma owner so I really like vibrant colors, but things still have to look natural, especially the skin tones.
post #11 of 30
My wife could care less. She looks at the thousands of dollars I have spent on TVs, projectors, audio equipment, speakers, cables and components and just nods her head and says "If it makes you happy, buy it, but I can't tell the difference".

Example.... when an image (4 x 3) is stretched to 16 x 9 to fill the whole screen and is distorted, I can't watch it. She likes the stretch and until I even say something, she does not even notice.
post #12 of 30
My wife refuses to comment, based on the fact that she doesn't want to say anything which might encourage another purchase

She occasionally mentions stutter/judder during pans. But that's because I've trained her well She was very useful in the early days of my HTPC development when we were trying to lock 71.928.
I happily watched the whole of Ratatouille on PS3 Blu-ray into the Crystalio II before she said that the credits looked juddery - sure enough it was outputting 75Hz (I'd badly programmed CII to change refresh based on PAL/NTSC which is obviously no use with HD).

I guess if I were to take her into a shop and say "which projector has the best colour" she would be able to pick up on it. But no more than me I would guess.
post #13 of 30
When we were setting up my projector I felt that there were issues some of which centered around color. I called Angela in for assistance. Of course I respect her opinion period but she had a hell of a lot of great advice that she just started spitting out right when she walked in.

Art
post #14 of 30
My wife is good at seeing color but she some how cannot see SDE as well as I see unless I point it to her.
I have a HD7300 (dc3 DLP) and a Nec XG, she continuely asks for the XG for watching movies because she says color are more natural to her eyes. To me both have nice color but different a bit here and there.
post #15 of 30
I love her dearly and if she read this we woud be in a tiff for sure, but....

My wife would not know an accurate color from an inaccurate color if it came up and bit her on the tush!!!

"Write that down.. You can quote me on that"
post #16 of 30
Us guys, (especially in this forum) are definitly in the minority when it relates to color purity. They, -the girls-, are taken back more by SIZE than anything else. Let's see, I was talking about (screen size) .
post #17 of 30
My wife can't tell. It's all the same to her. She can't understand why I want to record the HD version of a show because she thinks it uses too much hard drive space.

some time I wish she could appreciate the difference like I do, but on the other hand I'm glad we don't have argue over a projector model.

But there wasa time when I was at a trade show, and I think it was a Joe Kane DLP demonstration. There were a few couples there. It seemed that women were more bothered by rainbows than men.

On another ocasion I got some great advice from one of few women on this forum, Kei from digital connection. She suggested that I stop darting my eyes when I watch a movie and the rainbows won't be as much of an issue. She was right. The rainbow are not nearly as bad now that I have stopped looking for them.

~Jay
post #18 of 30
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Originally Posted by reio-ta View Post

I keep hearing over and over how orange greens for flesh tones are "alright by me" by men here on the forum.

Who said that? Can you point to a post? Or several, since you have heard it "over and over." It seems kind of odd someone would say that several times, or that several people on this forum would share that point of view.

Or perhaps you're mischaracterizing what they said so you can make a point you don't want to make directly? Was it merely a saturation issue -- as to which you might have a difference of opinion or a different preference -- or did someone really say they don't mind "orange greens" for flesh tones? Again, it seems odd someone would say that, and I find it surprising men or women have different preferences when it comes to that extreme.
post #19 of 30
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Originally Posted by Lawguy View Post

My wife and I had a great relationship until I got my RS1.

Although the colors don't bother me, they made her very upset. She got so upset, in fact, that she left me and took my daughter with her. She left saying something about how the grass in the Shire in the Lord of the Rings and in Seabiscuit were assaults on her eyes. The police agreed and took me away.

Now my life is ruined and I just sit in my theater all day and night and curse those oversaturated colors.

Woe is me.

LOL.
post #20 of 30
How does green look orange. That's something I've never heard said.

Reio-ta - we all know the colors on the RS series are over saturated. Numerous others much more knowledgable have discussed this at length. What oversaturated colors don't do is provide a brightness boost as you have claimed. Nor has anyone said that "orange greens"(whatever that is) look good.

If you don't like the colors on the JVC's, there are alternatives. Although, given your unwillingness to purchase a lamp based projector (I believe you had multiple posts complaining about lamp life and cost), I'm not sure why you continue to post in this forum.
post #21 of 30
Ok, so you detest the colors on the JVC. That's cool. Others don't like the colors either. While many others seem to have little or no issue. This has been discussed ad nauseum. So is it really necessary to start a thread suggesting that the fact that lots of people don't have problems with the JVC colors is somehow related to gender? That's a little (or maybe a lot) weird. I've heard of people being obsessed with some sort of agenda before but, dude . . . .

P.S. FWIW, my wife does not have any issue with the colors on the RS1. But then again, maybe she's really a man. I'll check again tonight.
post #22 of 30
Did someone say that there's women in our forums??
post #23 of 30
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Originally Posted by GG386 View Post

Us guys, (especially in this forum) are definitly in the minority when it relates to color purity. They, -the girls-, are taken back more by SIZE than anything else. Let's see, I was talking about (screen size) .

Umm, no we aren't.
post #24 of 30
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I was really hoping that the majority of the women out there hate wrong colors. Then maybe there can be two projectors, one for men and one for women. I could choose the projector for women, and be happy!

Why not just desaturate your JVC a bit and be happy? Your guys friends will never notice the difference when you do....don't you know that more men are "color" challenged?
post #25 of 30
You haven't seen a JVC-RadianceXD combo yet, have you?
post #26 of 30
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Originally Posted by reio-ta View Post

Nope, not rich enough to see a $10,000 combo When you factor projector, RadianceXD, screen, and calibration.

Well you should... That way you would stop posting about "slight color compression with the possibility of banding/posterization"...
If properly calibrated, this combo produces amazing results!
post #27 of 30
I would find it surprising if women were not more sensitive to colour shift than men.

It is a not well advertised fact that in general women have better sight, hearing, smell and taste than men do. Hence the much advertised women just know when you are having an affair, it is far more likely that she picked up hints off the lingering perfume smell on your clothes.

Other useless pieces of information are that they are in general much worse at spatial mathematics, their brains are orientated towards multi-tasking which is why they are so good at looking after children and men are so lousy.
post #28 of 30
I can tell you with absolute certainty that my wife prefers a sharp, bright, punchy image to anything else. I have my Sony Wega set up with 3 modes: Vivid (super bright, blue, cool), Custom (ISF calibrated) and Standard (settings, colors/brightness between Custom and Vivid) and she vastly prefers the Standard in every situation...
post #29 of 30
Bright shiny objects are eyecatching.
post #30 of 30
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Originally Posted by reio-ta View Post

Well, it bugs the hell out of me how there are tons of people who like the "saturated" colors because they're "more lively" or whatever reason. My wife doesn't like them either. But I've seen tons of people who do. I have two friends who I've tested, both men and they like the "lively colors". My grandparents are the same, well they don't care if it's wrong or right as long as it works with a VHS player! So is my wife's brother. When I even point out faces are screwed up, every single one of them is "they're fine to me".

It's like the rainbow effect (RBE), it boggles my mind why others don't see color flashes all over the place.

Life is too short to be concerned about why others have the preferences they do, and why they differ from yours. It makes sense to figure out how to achieve a projector setup that works for you, but worrying about why other folks like saturated colors (or, perhaps more accurately, why they are not so bothered by them as to make other tradeoffs) is pointless.
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