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post #61 of 1091
Yes, the movie and extras play fine for Gone Baby Gone work fine.
post #62 of 1091
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Originally Posted by bradavon View Post

Thanks guys. I'll add them.

5harkology: Surely the film isn't letterboxed (i.e - non-anamorphic)?
dickydoo: I presume the film and extras for Gone Baby Gone work fine?

Thanks. I hope we weren't premature saying this player works so well. The number of problem titles is gradually building up.

Yeah, the actual movie isn't isn't letter boxed, but the flashing overlay over the menu appears that way. I may have used the wrong terminology. I can't accurately comment on whether these are new defects introduced by the new firmware as mainly other players exhibit their own issues. Overall, I'm happy with and LG has demonstrated they are capable of fixing mainy of the flaws/defects and are at least listening to us.
post #63 of 1091
Thread Starter 
The problems with Across the Universe sound very much the same as Dickydoo explains for Gone Baby Gone.

Letterbox just means a non-anamorphic shape (for want of a better way of explaining it). Non-anamorphic itself technically encompasses more than just the letterbox type shape and is only used on SD content, except for some HD Broadcast TV which cheats.

I thought you were talking about the film hence why I ask, but yes that's the correct terminology. Thanks for clarifying.

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Originally Posted by 5harkology View Post

I can't accurately comment on whether these are new defects introduced by the new firmware as mainly other players exhibit their own issues.

I always remind people of that when they start moaning about a Player. Just because we've started a thread which "deliberately draws attention to the problem discs" it doesn't actually mean putting it in context it's any worse than other players.

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Originally Posted by 5harkology View Post

Overall, I'm happy with and LG has demonstrated they are capable of fixing mainy of the flaws/defects and are at least listening to us.

So you're not too concerned about the sudden rise of titles? I am a little as it was only 1-2 the other week and is now at 6, this could rise further.

Any more than 2-3 titles total I begin to worry. It is reassuring though an actual LG BH200 owner isn't particularly worried. I still plan to buy one as I was only ever interested in a Combo Player and the BH200 is by a country mile the best one on the market.

EDIT: Of the 6 problem discs 4 are what I'd say are serious and 1 (300 HD-DVD) it has been confirmed the USA version works fine. Which is worth nothing when HD-DVDs don't use Region Coding, and Warner don't use BD Region Coding anyway so you could buy the BD (although the BDs don't have the PIP features).

So I guess 3 serious problem discs isn't too bad. They are:

Afro Samurai Japanese HD-DVD
Enemy at the Gates (aka Stalingrad in France) French HD-DVD
La Vie En Rose (La Môme) French HD-DVD


Thanks again.
post #64 of 1091
found audio drop outs with Cars (blu ray)
first time i watched it was fine. I think i was watching it on dolby EX though.
when i switch the audio to true HD it takes about 30 seconds before my reciever reads the signal. once sound is being decoded it drops out pretty frequently.

this is with the march 17th firmware.
post #65 of 1091
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by dcgear View Post

when i switch the audio to true HD it takes about 30 seconds before my reciever reads the signal. once sound is being decoded it drops out pretty frequently.

Thanks for the post.

I presume you're talking generally here? As Cars doesn't have TrueHD. Does the above always happen?
post #66 of 1091
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Originally Posted by bradavon View Post

Thanks for the post.

I presume you're talking generally here? As Cars doesn't have TrueHD. Does the above always happen?

The Canadian version of the disc does have True HD. This seems to be a problem limited to bitstreaming True HD disney movies as I had the same problem with Enchanted. There is a thread discussing the Enchanted issue in the Blu ray software section.
post #67 of 1091
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Originally Posted by bradavon View Post

Thanks for the post.

I presume you're talking generally here? As Cars doesn't have TrueHD. Does the above always happen?

Perhaps our friend is from the top bit of the North American continent, as apparently some copies of the Canadian version of Cars have TrueHD.
post #68 of 1091
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Originally Posted by peterjcat View Post

Perhaps our friend is from the top bit of the North American continent, as apparently some copies of the Canadian version of Cars have TrueHD.

Top bit of North America. Need I give you a geography lesson: The land area of Canada is greater than the US. Lots of that area is not very hospitable but it is still larger
post #69 of 1091
Thread Starter 
Well Americans of old did quickly leave America for Canada, so there must be something in what you say

Seriously thanks. I didn't know the Canadian BD had TrueHD. Does it also have PCM? The American BD has PCM or DD5.1 EX.
post #70 of 1091
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Originally Posted by drj2000 View Post

Top bit of North America. Need I give you a geography lesson: The land area of Canada is greater than the US. Lots of that area is not very hospitable but it is still larger


i've been a canadian citizen for quite sometime and i didnt even know that lol

i do have the canadian copy which has true HD. thats really strange how the US version does not..
post #71 of 1091
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Originally Posted by bradavon View Post

Seriously thanks. I didn't know the Canadian BD had TrueHD. Does it also have PCM? The American BD has PCM or DD5.1 EX.

no PCM on the canadian version just true HD and 5.1EX
post #72 of 1091
Thread Starter 
Thanks. I'd pick up the USA BD then. PCM is less hassle.

It is odd they're exchanged PCM for TrueHD on Canadian BD. Does it have any dub tracks? (such as French) and therefore they needed more space. That could explain why. There are no dubs on the USA BD.

I cannot find out what the UK BD has but lots of other European BDs seem to have TrueHD and various Dubs. The PCM seems exclusive to America.

I'd pick up the USA BD myself, it like the others is Region Free.
post #73 of 1091
ya you're right there are french and spanish 5.1 tracks on the canadian disc.
post #74 of 1091
Thread Starter 
Thanks. I bet that is why. It's weird the American BD hasn't also got Spanish.
post #75 of 1091
found some problems with french studio canal hd dvd's since the march firmware upgrade. On all of the ones I have - rambo 1,2,3;terminator 2, and king kong (1976) the movie starts and then a display box appears for the entire movie in the left hand corner. this is too bad because the visual quality of these movies on my pio 5010 is nothing short of terrific. oh well...... also, stalingrad(enemy at the gates) is unplayable-known issue.
post #76 of 1091
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by dlittle View Post

found some problems with french studio canal hd dvd's since the march firmware upgrade. On all of the ones I have - rambo 1,2,3;terminator 2, and king kong (1976) the movie starts and then a display box appears for the entire movie in the left hand corner.

Thanks DLittle.

What does the display box say?

To clarify what country are these from? I presume they're from France? I doubt it matters much when the Studio Canal HD-DVDs released in the UK, Germany and Australia are all 100% identical ports of the French originals, but it would help to clarify.

Of all the titles Studio Canal could've released I still find it weird they choice to release King Kong (1976). Most (myself included) seem to think it's utter rubbish.

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Originally Posted by dlittle View Post

oh well...... also, stalingrad(enemy at the gates) is unplayable-known issue.

I thought we were talking about Stalingrad (1993) not Enemy at the Gates (2001) but see Stalingrad (1993) hasn't been released.

I'll update the post to say it's Enemy at the Gates (aka Stalingrad in France). I didn't realise it was called Stalingrad in France.
post #77 of 1091
hey guys, I have the march firmware and there is a problem with the menu in bourne ultimatum. during playback hitting the pop up menu button returns you to the menu screen after it tries to display the side menu over the movie.

you must use the directional keys to open the menu properly during playback
post #78 of 1091
Thread Starter 
The LG BH200 seems to have a a particular problem with HD-DVDs popup menus. There are a few examples of similar HD-DVD problems in this thread.
post #79 of 1091
No problems with The Bourne Ultimatum pop-up menus on our BH200 (before, or after the March firmware update).
post #80 of 1091
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Originally Posted by dickydoo View Post

Is it possible the European version of 300 is different from the North American? My 300 Combo HD DVD works perfectly fine with the newest firmware (driver version 0701).

300 plays fine on our BH200 as well (again, both before and after the March firmware update). NA version of the player and title, and our player has always had driver version 0701.

Points to either a problem with the specific disc that won't play, or with the European version of 300. Guess we'll have to wait for more reports to really know.
post #81 of 1091
I have had my first problem with a playback of a disk. I have the March firmware and was watching Into the Wild, on a standard DVD. I turned on spanish subtitles with the Display button on the remote. When I turned subtitles off they kept displaying in spanish. I tried english subtitles and they continued to be displayed in spanish. After turning subtitles on and off a few times the subtitles went off.

It was a minor glitch. But I have not tried subtitles on any other disk.
post #82 of 1091
No Country for Old Men BD:

Similar problem to Across the Universe that I reported. Once you go to the popup menu the feature window flashes. The difference is the menu interface is fine and is not flashing like it was on Across the Universe.

No Country for Old Men Glitch
post #83 of 1091
canadian version of meet the robinsons froze the video twice on me. when i press pause and resume it seems to play bakc fine
post #84 of 1091
I have only had the BH200 for a week now and have experienced no issues with any of the movies I have watched. However, tonight I tried the HDDVD Digital Video Essentials with the DTS-reencode option set. During playback of the sample videos, I only got a helicoptor-like sound. When I switched it to PCM-passthough, DolbyDigital was used and worked fine.
Note that every movie I have played has used the DTS option with no issues. I might stick with PCM-passthrough now.
post #85 of 1091
Thread Starter 
Thanks DCGear and 5harkology, titles added.

The BH200 clearly has an issue with the Pop-up menu feature. That's three titles now which exhibit the same "Flashing of the Preview" problem:

Across the Universe, USA BD - Reported by 5harkology
Gone Baby Gone, USA BD - Reported by dickydoo
No Country for Old Men, USD BD - Reported by 5harkology
post #86 of 1091
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Originally Posted by bradavon View Post

Thanks DCGear and 5harkology, titles added.

The BH200 clearly has an issue with the Pop-up menu feature. That's three titles now which exhibit the same "Flashing of the Preview" problem:

Across the Universe, USA BD - Reported by 5harkology
Gone Baby Gone, USA BD - Reported by dickydoo
No Country for Old Men, USD BD - Reported by 5harkology

Yes, the videos 5harkology posted are exactly what I was seeing with Gone Baby Gone...
post #87 of 1091
bradavon-the menu is in the upper left hand corner of studio canal hd dvd's imported-it is dealing with time remaining, chapter, audio source etc.
post #88 of 1091
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Originally Posted by dlittle View Post

found some problems with french studio canal hd dvd's since the march firmware upgrade. On all of the ones I have - rambo 1,2,3;terminator 2, and king kong (1976) the movie starts and then a display box appears for the entire movie in the left hand corner. this is too bad because the visual quality of these movies on my pio 5010 is nothing short of terrific. oh well...... also, stalingrad(enemy at the gates) is unplayable-known issue.

I can confirm the problem with the Studio Canal HD DVD release of Terminator 2 (French director's cut edition). There is an option in the popup menu saying "On-screen display" or similar which I think is the display box at the top left showing Title/Track/Time information. Unfortunately the display box is stuck on "on" and checking or unchecking the option in the popup menu does nothing.

There is no way I can see to get rid of the display box (tried all the remote buttons, all the languages, all the subtitle settings etc) and yes, it's annoying. (It's quite a big display box, half the screen horizontally and maybe a quarter vertically.) The T2 set contains two discs, one the director's cut and one the theatrical release, and the behaviour is identical on both.

So I have no trouble believing dlittle's theory that this is a common problem for the BH200 and Studio Canal HD DVDs. Can we add this to the list and hope LG is still reading?
post #89 of 1091
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the extra info Peter. Of course they can be added. I was just waiting for some info from Dlitle:

1. Is your BH200 an American Player?
2. Are you running the March firmware?

That really does suck. Many of the Studio Canal HD-DVDs have been ported to Germany, The UK and Australia. I know as fact the discs are identical and just have different cover art. Which means the UK Terminator 2 HD-DVD will also be effected.

I was going to pick up the German HD-DVD Ultimate Edition though which isn't a port. The European HD-DVDs are said to look much better than the USA BD, although that is the Theatrical Cut (technically also the Director's Cut) unlike all others which are the Extended Cut. That is except for the French HD-DVD which has both cuts, but forced subs on the Theatrical Cut. So I ignore it.
post #90 of 1091
I personally am running the March firmware on a US player. We can see what dlittle says.

The French version is a great package; opinions vary about whether it or the German version has better picture quality. I expect there'll be a new Blu-Ray "ultimate" version at some point in the future, with a new encode (hopefully a new transfer) and lossless audio.

Hope this'll be fixed in the real May firmware.
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