MSI 7411 Motherboard Sneak Peek (share your thoughts!) - Page 7

Yes, they are a one-or-the-other solution. It makes sense if you think about it. The amp card is essentially the preamp card plus digital amplifier modules. The preamp card is the amp card minus the amp modules. My main concern is that you may NEED one or the other to get audio. If the preamp card isn't connected does the system really go down to just a 2-channel analog output? If it is not using the preamp card can it still output DD and DTS over the digital outputs? Does it do anything special with non-multi channel sound such as DTS Connect or DDLive? Just curious...

Yes, you can choose any of those two flavors... Boy am I sad for those people who want everything run by one cable... not!!!

Well June 15th has come and gone and no announcement about the availability of the "Diva" series. Figured as much.

Any idea on when this motherboard will be available to consumers, and cost? I sent an e-mail to newegg requesting them to stock it when it's available, but got the standard "we constantly look into new products" response.

Fast forward to about 5:30 on this:

http://www.tkarena.com/Videos/VideoP...utex-2008.aspx

"Absolutely!!!" Now, where can I get one?

Honestly, I hope not. Though, it would be par for the course in new products as usually the item I am waiting for is always delayed or released later then everything else =)

Any thoughts on the msrp or is that something that can't be discussed? Or, even the "official" name for the part, since usually names like "ms-7411" are their internal part numbers, not the "marketing name".

Hopefully, if they keep the price around 2 C notes for the full feature board you will not hear me complaining!

It'll be some sort of combo... unless they sell just the mainboard as a 2.1 set up (meh). Given the nature of the audio component, I think somewhere between $150 an $250, maybe more.

Even more would not a bad deal when you see these HDMI sound cards going for 199, and you still need to shell out for an AVR.

EDIT: I believe only the 5.1 Amplified card would alleviate the need for an external amplifier, as, I believe, the other 2.1, 5.1 and 7.1 solutions are not amplified.

Considering great 780G boards can be had under $90 I am really hoping you're right!

Hey guys, I'm the guy who runs Gear Live. Let me know if you have questions about this mobo that we can answer. We are trying to get one in next week

Take a look through the last couple pages of this thread and there's lots of questions. Some ones that come to mind are:

1. When will it be available for consumer purchase, and in what "bundles"?
2. What will the price be (either msrp or street prices)
3. What's the "official" name of the board, since "ms-7411" is more in line with MSI's product numbers
4. How does the video performance compare to other 780g-based motherboards for HTPC uses?
5. Confirm the audio output capabilities -- are they the same as other 780g motherboards, or have their been improvements (such as bitstreaming 8channels through hdmi)?
6. What is the real-world performance of the amplifier card? Specs are one thing, but actual performance is another
7. Are there any limits or performance hits when using Phenom processors (such as the 9150?) (see the Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2H thread)
8. What are the temps of the motherboard heatsinks when under full load?

Well, where to start...

Video: Side port Memory? PIP with CrossfireX?
Audio: Codec Support? Driver support; Equivalent control capability to external AVR
Hardware: 780M or 780G? CPU Support (9850)? PSU requirements, esp. with 5.1, 110w/chnl audio card? 750 Southbridge?
Performance: How does it all work, real world? Audio support recognized by, say, PDVD or Arcsoft?
Game Support: Just kidding... Seriously, just kidding. Seriously!
Availabilty: When? How Much? How will different audio options be packaged/priced?

How does video comare to descrete card like 3650? Does sideport memory do away with need for phenom processor to use the video post processing features. Does it deinterlace 1080i as well as descrete card?

Audio, does it support DTS connect? I don't have a reciever with hdmi, so can I connect hdmi direct to tv and connect to my reciever seperatly via spdif or analog outs?

I have an AVR with 7.1 that I run everything through (PS3, Xbox 360, DVD Player, Cable Box, 3 zones with 14 total speakers, etc) that upscales video and handles all of the audio, would this board even be something that I would need? I would have no need (or the ability) to run speakers straight through the motherboard. The video options are cool, but again, if I get a high end graphics card (or even a pair of them) would this board be any better. I'm try to justify waiting for these boards to come out vs the 780 and P45's that are already available.

I can't see why you'd want this board if you're happy with your AVR, unless you want to use analog outputs from the HTPC to the AVR. Assuming your AVR has HDMI, you'd probably be better off getting either a GeForce 8200/G35/G45 motherboard that can handle 7.1 PCM over HDMI, or if you want a high-end graphics card regardless, get any board you like with an ATI Radeon 4000 series graphics card that can also output 7.1 PCM over HDMI. That will give you optimal video and audio quality.

Was just wondering if there is any new updates/information that can be shared regarding this motherboard yet?

Today's google search finally turned up something worthwile... http://www.google.com/products?q=msi+7411&hl=en&show=dd

Shows three "no-name" retailers indicating the plans to carry this motherboard, though no pictures and not much other info. However, the price seams to be around $135.00us. Competive price, but honestly I don't think competitive enough unless your plans include taking advantage of the d2-audio add-in cards.

edit: No indication if any of the audio cards are included, or if it's just the bare motherboard

With everything being revealed regarding the TV Pack fiasco, I have a fealing this is going to channel, at least with the better d2audio boards.

I feel so frakked right now. This board was gonna be the core of my new system with Blu-ray (yes, I was gonna get one) and HD-PVR's. Now I wait till September.

bump to bring the thread alive.

oops... so much for back ups

For the past few months I've been trying to purchase an HTPC with an integrated 5.1 amplifier. I was looking at the Alienware Hangar 18 but for quite some time now it hasn't been available with the 5.1 sound. I was also looking at the Asus DAV Center A33 but despite being reviewed on some sites as far back as early 2007 it's still not made it to market.

So my attention has now turned to making a DIY solution from the MSI MS-7411. As with everybody else expressing an interest on this thread I would like to be one of the first to get my hands on it!

so when will it become available!?

I emailed MSI's Sales Department weeks ago asking the same question and never heard back.

Will the production model be called the 7411? (If you can say...).

Are there any updates to these questions asked a while ago?

I am curious if with the 780M and sideport memory, whether the phenom is still required for video postprocessing as it is with the 780G. It would seem to make sense that if there is enough video memory connected directly and the HT3/HT2 bus is not in the way, it should be able to turn all of the video processing on w/o needing a HT3 processor. Just thought I would ask.

We are only just seeing first samples now, so we have not yet looked at all the metrics. Time will tell.

Hey guys, I'm the guy who runs Gear Live. Let me know if you have questions about this mobo that we can answer. We are trying to get one in next week

How does video compare to discrete card like 3650? Does sideport memory do away with need for phenom processor to use the video post processing features. Does it deinterlace 1080i as well as descrete card?