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post #211 of 3490
Thread Starter 
To my knowledge, yes it will still be the 7411. However, since it is a retail package, they may give it a name like other retailed packaged products, not really sure.
post #212 of 3490
In that case, I won't limit my searching to "7411" just in case.

Thanks.
post #213 of 3490
Release must be getting close. Some resellers now have it listed, and are even taking orders.

Compsource: $132

Provantage: $137.47

Others found via Froogle.

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Just did a straight Google search on "MSI MS-7411 ATHLON 64X2 AMD RS780M DDR2 8GB MICRO-ATX," which is how this board is apparently listed in whatever distributor database MSI feeds, and that pretty much weeds out all the editorial and forum references, giving some additional reseller listings.
post #214 of 3490
Thread Starter 
This must be some of the preperation steps MSI is working on to get things ready to go.
post #215 of 3490
Now we just need pricing on the addon boards.
post #216 of 3490
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Originally Posted by Java Jack View Post

Hey Folks,

I had a call with MSI today. They are working on the retail packaging now. The board is done and ready to go, but they need to finalize the packaging and then ship some to the US. They confirmed that they will make this board available via Newegg and a couple of other retail sites. I would expect it to be availble in early Sept. I am not sure how many they will get in stock, but they may go quickly.

Thanks for the update. Any chance you can comment on a MSRP price, and/or what is included in the retail box (i.e. any of the add-in cards, or none, or ?)
post #217 of 3490
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Sorry, I don't know what MSI is going to include in the box nor the pricing that they are going to set.
post #218 of 3490
I thought they were bundling one of the add in cards, no?
post #219 of 3490
Thread Starter 
I don't know what their final decision is going to be. Last I heard, they were going to have 2 SKUs.

1) Board + 5.1 Amp card
2) Board + 7.1 Pre Amp card

However, I don't know what they will ultimately price at. We should know more in the next couple of weeks as they finish off the packaging and start stocking the shelves.
post #220 of 3490
Ok well I'm starting to plan an HTPC based around this motherboard and I was wondering if the following processor would be suitable?

AMD Athlon 64 X2 5800+ Brisbane 3.0GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM2 89W Dual-Core?

Also does anybody know what's happening with the Omaura cases - I understand there is no longer distribution via Dell but will they still become available for retail in the U.S?
post #221 of 3490
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Originally Posted by feederz View Post

Ok well I'm starting to plan an HTPC based around this motherboard and I was wondering if the following processor would be suitable?

AMD Athlon 64 X2 5800+ Brisbane 3.0GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM2 89W Dual-Core?

Also does anybody know what's happening with the Omaura cases - I understand there is no longer distribution via Dell but will they still become available for retail in the U.S?

As for the CPU I would recomend the 5400+ or the 5600+ (2.8 and 2.9 GHz respectively) they only consume 65W and are easy to passively cool with a scyth ninja mini or similar.

Regarding Omaura, it is dead. There might be a future case under a different branding that is similar to the Omaura line of models but I wouldn't hold my breath.
post #222 of 3490
Thanks Smitty - So in looking for alternatives cases I like the look of the OrigenAE S14V or the Silverstone GD02-MT so I think I'll try one of those.

I noticed people saying in reviews of the Scythe Ninja Mini that it is actually quite large so does anybody know what kind of vertical clearance I'd get inside these cases?
post #223 of 3490
Thread Starter 
If you are looking for something with a low profile, check out the Silent Flux from Noiselimit.

http://www.directron.com/slsfmedia.html
post #224 of 3490
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Originally Posted by feederz View Post

Ok well I'm starting to plan an HTPC based around this motherboard and I was wondering if the following processor would be suitable?

AMD Athlon 64 X2 5800+ Brisbane 3.0GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM2 89W Dual-Core?

Also does anybody know what's happening with the Omaura cases - I understand there is no longer distribution via Dell but will they still become available for retail in the U.S?

I'm currently looking at this case.


Lian Li, so good quality. Low profile, about the same size as a cable box, just a little on the deep side, but I think they all are.
post #225 of 3490
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Originally Posted by frankinla View Post

I'm currently looking at this case.


Lian Li, so good quality. Low profile, about the same size as a cable box, just a little on the deep side, but I think they all are.

Does it include a Microsoft IR module?
post #226 of 3490
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Not a bad chassis. They should have hid the front connectors behind a door or something. Would have given a cleaner look. Also, make the speaker and mic jacks black and denote with an icon. Overall, not bad at all.
post #227 of 3490
Any news
post #228 of 3490
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Date I am told is Sept. 9th they should have some in the States. Not sure how long to get them up on Newegg, but should not take too long.
post #229 of 3490
Google checkout is showing one retailer listing the M/B + 7.1 audio combo for $195 and a couple listing the M/B + 5.1 audio combo for about $220. So it looks like it will be in the $200 price range we wanted / dared to expect.

Of course, none are in stock yet, but it gives us a good idea of the price range.
post #230 of 3490
Great that you found those! I just checked out the AlrightDeals.com listings at Google Checkout, and noticed they also include the official MSI part numbers:
  • The board alone is MSI part # MS-7411.
  • The board/5.1 bundle (with amplification) is 7411-001
  • The board/7.1 bundle (with preamplification) is 7411-002
Those part numbers can be confirmed HERE and HERE and HERE.
post #231 of 3490
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From the last link in Zenoicus post...
7411-001 MSI MS-7411 MB BUNDLE WITH 5.1 SOUND CARD, SUPPORT MSI ATHLON 64 X2, UPTO 8G DDR $213.72
7411-002 MSI MS-7411 MB BUNDLE WITH 7.1 SOUND CARD, SUPPORT MSI ATHLON 64 X2, UPTO 8G DDR $188.74
post #232 of 3490
Looks like we have some baseline prices.

Java Jack, I know you're limited in what you can and can't say but is there a possibility of an OEM producing a CableCard PC with this motherboard? That would be a killer system: one box that replaces the HTPC, receiver and cable box.
post #233 of 3490
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I guess it depends on your defintition of OEM. There our folks lined up to do that. You will see a few announce at CEDIA later this week and more to follow suit over the next couple of months.
post #234 of 3490
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Originally Posted by Java Jack View Post

I guess it depends on your defintition of OEM. There our folks lined up to do that. You will see a few announce at CEDIA later this week and more to follow suit over the next couple of months.

Thanks. I did mean OEM as in the OCUR authorized OEM builders (Dell, HP, S1Digital, etc.).
post #235 of 3490
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Originally Posted by vladd View Post

Thanks. I did mean OEM as in the OCUR authorized OEM builders (Dell, HP, S1Digital, etc.).

Yes, there will be OCUR versions using this platform available starting later this week.

Here is one....

http://www.aspenmediaproducts.com/Pr...6/Default.aspx


More to follow.
post #236 of 3490
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Originally Posted by Java Jack View Post

From the last link in Zenoicus post...
7411-001 MSI MS-7411 MB BUNDLE WITH 5.1 SOUND CARD, SUPPORT MSI ATHLON 64 X2, UPTO 8G DDR $213.72
7411-002 MSI MS-7411 MB BUNDLE WITH 7.1 SOUND CARD, SUPPORT MSI ATHLON 64 X2, UPTO 8G DDR $188.74

Any reason 7.1 is cheaper than 5.1?
post #237 of 3490
Yes. The 7.1 is a pre-amp card (no amplifiers to drive speakers). The 5.1 is an actual amp card. It sounds crazy, but that is supposed to be able to run 5 non-amplified speakers right from the computer amp card. The 7.1 needs to be hooked to an amp. It is line-level only.
post #238 of 3490
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Originally Posted by denyart View Post

Yes. The 7.1 is a pre-amp card (no amplifiers to drive speakers). The 5.1 is an actual amp card. It sounds crazy, but that is supposed to be able to run 5 non-amplified speakers right from the computer amp card. The 7.1 needs to be hooked to an amp. It is line-level only.

Yep, Denyart has it, 7.1 is pre amp, 5.1 is amplified. And, yes it does drive passive speakers directly from the card without any issues.

I have several in testing right now and 1 at home.

On my home system, I am running the Infinity Primus 160 (R&L), C250 (center) and Difinitive Cinama Pro 80 (Surround) and it sounds great. Sub is 10" Polk (sub is active). Card has more than enough power to drive the speakers for my 15 x 15 room. Even in a larger area, the Amp should work nicely.

In my test beds at work, I am running various sets of speakers from JBL, Polk, Cambridge Soundworks, etc. and they all sound great.
post #239 of 3490
I looked through most of the thread and didn't see what DAC or opamp that the card would use? I saw that the amp would be a D2Audio but wouldn't the DAC have a bigger effect on the SQ? Maybe I'm not looking at this right and might have missed it. I just remember all the talk a little while back about changing the op amps on a Creative soundcard to get better sound quality and wanted to see what people thought of the quality of the ones used here.
post #240 of 3490
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Originally Posted by sprtfan View Post

I saw that the amp would be a D2Audio but wouldn't the DAC have a bigger effect on the SQ?

No, not unless they screw up. The analog section is going to be the most important. The differences between, properly implemented, modern DACs is, for the most part inaudible.
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