MSI 7411 Motherboard Sneak Peek (share your thoughts!) - Page 74

If it shows the bios screen it might be normal. It seems to beep everytime it finds a usb-device. Mine has a keyboard, a mouse and a vfd. Annoying feature IMO.

Well, it doesn't have to be a single app acting as a multiple source, I was more thinking along the line of various instances of different application/driver/plugin outputting to one or two channel(s) each...


Good!


Yes, though BTV has eventually lead to other opportunities related to Home Automation... The concept of Audio zones, where each room hosts one or two speakers, each fed by a different source (iTunes, Pandora, LastFM, etc.), that's one area where using the D2 and RealTek chips independently becomes interesting... Throw in the channel remapping to avoid a matrix switch, some already amplified channels to cut down on the external amplifier requirements, and on paper that Maui board can do wonders...


Right, so use the amp card for 5 channels, get the extra 2.1 channels of the D2 chip through the RCA connectors at the back and feed them to an external amp. Then get a few more channels (5.1 or 7.1?) of the RealTek from the front connector header, which is also fed to the external amp... Use the line-in of the RealTek (would the D2 provide an independent line-in too or it's just for the output?) possibly connected to some receiver...

Of course that's not the typical use, but...

Winamp also allows you to select which audio device it outputs to, so it can output to a different device than the default audio output.

JAVA: This AM I just started googeling to see what I can find in Amplifiers that have the necessary RCA INPUTS that would be needed IF I could get a 7.1 daughter card for my new mobo. Have not done much research yet BUT looked at two Sony's the STR DG820 and the STR DH700........they both list that the have 5 RCA Audio INPUTS ------- would this be what would be needed to AMP up that 7.1 Pre-amp card?

TKS michael

Those two receivers have RCA inputs for 5 devices but they are 5 separate pairs of RCA inputs (L/R only). You will need one that has what's called "Multi-Channel inputs" where it has one set of 5.1 or 7.1 RCA inputs. Something like the Yamaha HTR-6130, but they call it "6 CH External Input":

Nope, you're going to need 7 INPUT channels for the amp if you are connecting to 7 OUTPUTS from the preamp card. 'IF' you are just concerned with 5.1 sound, then yes those amps should be fine.

-PGPfan

@all

Does anyone know if D2audio plans support for older operating systems such as Windows XP? Sure, Vista and Windows 7 are flashy and have a decent HTPC interface via Media Center... but I know a lot of us still have copies of WMCE 2005 sitting around, and it's good to have options.

I finally got my setup working with an Athalon 64 5400+ under Windows 7 RC1. The OS seemed to have all the drivers necessary for the motherbaord so I did not have to install any drivers. the problem is I have no way of getting sound out of the 5.1 amplifier. I even tried installing the Realtek driver on the CD but it would not install. I was able to install the D2 driver but i got no change in the sound output. I have looked at the device manager and all devices are installed and working properly. I have tried to check settings in the Sound Devices but I am unable to figure out the solution.

Has anyone been able to get this motherboard to work with Windows 7? If so, how did you get the amplifier to produce sound?

Java Jack.

how is your lian li pc-c39 running? I am really looking into getting this platform with that case but the heat issues are scaring me.

I would probably use a 5050e or one of AMD new 65watt chips.

Thanks

If your are using a PC to decode what's missing from your TX-SR603X? Couldn't you use Zone 2 for your rear surrounds?

Just to comment on the northbridge cooling. I replaced the standard heatsink with a much larger version. Which does obscure slot 1.

Before replacing the heatsink I would sometimes have the computer freezing during post either on detection of usb items or detection of the second hdd. Since replacing the northbridge cooler this no longer happens.

Another thing I noticed, there are 3 temps in the bios. cpu, temp1 and temp2.

cpu temp...... is cpu temp

temp 1 is ??? This has always remained around the 30 - 34 degrees before replacing the northbridge cooler and also after. I don't know which temperature it measures?

temp 2 is case temp, the sensor for this is on the motherboard next to the amp card.

I hope that by replacing the northbridge heatsink I will improve the reliability of the board. Time will tell.

That's not quite true. MS plans to extend XP's support cycle through April 2014. Certainly, they probably won't do any new major developments (i.e. new Service Packs), but they will continue to make updates available and do other support.

Really, given the general feelings about Vista both in the business community (many of whom didn't want to upgrade to maintain both hardware and software compatibility across all their machines) and in the consumer base (many of whom felt Vista was pure tripe) it is unfortunate that a hardware vendor would ignore Windows XP (at least until Win7 becomes available). Many people simply don't want to deal with Vista, and many consumers will be - or have already - gone directly from XP to Win7, skipping Vista completely.

Frankly, I was going to get Widows XP Media Center until I found this platform; the only reason I went with this platform was because I was able to obtain a copy of Windows 7. I had no intention of running Vista on my Media Center, or any other computer I owned. I had it on my laptop for two weeks, then moved that to XP and haven't looked back.

UAA class driver is available even for Windows 2000 (since 2004).

Microsoft KB 888111

That's funny, because Microsoft has publicly said it will continue to support XP through April 2014.

Sales of XP have almost stopped, except for the NetBooks and OEM's that stocked up before the sales deadline. But support will continue for at least another 4 1/2 years, and Microsoft continues to release security updates on every 2nd Tuesday of the month. I don't think that Microsoft will continue "development" of the OS (witness the lack of DirectX10 for XP - there's no real reason why XP couldn't have DX10 except that Microsoft doesn't want to throw resources into it), but they will continue to support XP. And it's a shame that some manufacturers aren't doing the same given the huge base of users and wide spread disgust with Vista.

Sorry, someone alot more HIGH Tech than I would have to tackle that question.......Hee HEE! Wish I knew - - - I am just trying to get Sound out of the COAX-Digital OUTPUT and can't even do that right now! YIKES!

I sure hope and pray that a GOOD High Tech Samaritan can help me along me way here today. I made the deal and now own a NEW HTPC - traded all of my PS3 and stuff for it.......it was put together in one of the Special Antec HT/Media Cases with the 380W PSU; the MSI 4711w 5.1 card; AMD Dual 2.3GHz CPU; LG BluRay Drive; 1 TB Seagate HD; ATI PCI-e 650 Tuner Card. W'7 Ultimate.

The ol' Nerd delivered it yesterday and Thank God for that - - - because he went about getting it up and running with my components here. We spent HOURS chasing our tails and when he left we still did not have Sound Output to my 7.1 system setup.........and it appears that after the Official Transition day to ALL digital TV - - - that 2 of the major channels in my area changed their frequency or some darn thing.....one is 4 channels of PBS and the other is 2 NBC's - - - before 12th with my HDTV Silver Sensor antenna they all came in GREAT - now NOTHING.....I wnet and bought a new UHF and VHF HD antenna today to solve that....BUT...only took more $ out of pocket....still NO signals. And now to actually get to where I REALLY want/need some help:

The Sound - I am wanting to use the Realtek SPDIF built into this mobo for the time being so I bought a NEW Coaxial/digital cable this AM - came home and ran it from the Coax OUT on MSI mobo to COAX 1 IN on my Onkyo AVR - - - BUT NO lousy sounds at all [except I can hear the 2 CH tests on one page; and hear the MS Sounds] for Video, TV etc.......the utility where you are supposed to hear sounds from each of the 7 speakers does NOTHING! I have really been scratching me head and more over this - - - do you suppose that maybe in the BIOS he was supposed to Turn something ON in order to use the sound chip? I was going to re-install the HD built in Sound off of the MSI Disc just in case he overlooked something [I doubt it BUT.....] anyway that did not go like I am used to with W'XP and before.....always put it int the drive and engaged it - then on your screen you'd have the whatever graphics and choices to make about install etc....NOT with this W'7.....checked it was set on Auto Run too - but a screen with some questions comes up instead of the MSI Program.

Excuse the ramble....

TKS michael

@Renethx

Do you know whether or not that hotfix will work for adding D2audio support under XP for this board? I, like poster Ericbsmith, am only using Windows 7 because... well... the price of the RC is right. But I already own WMCE 2005, and would like to get some more good years of use out of it if that's possible. While I like Windows 7, I get the feeling Microsoft is going to ask a small fortune for it once it's on the retail shelf. I'd certainly buy it if the cost isn't unreasonable... but that's not really my experience with Microsoft, and I hate boxing myself in.

Beginning 6/26 (for 16 days) you can supposedly prepurchase Home Premium upgrade for $49:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10258259-56.html

@Vladd

Thanks for the link! Depending on where the "gotchas" are, that may be a sweet deal.

Does someone know what new features the new BIOS will cover?

Will it support CPU settings (bus frequency, voltage)?

And more importantly, will it support more memory settings, especially default voltage? (for running the board with OCZ Titanium memory modules)

It seems to be included with XP SP3. The KB also says the following:

Version 1.0a of the UAA High Definition Audio class driver does not work on High Definition Audio implementations that were disclosed to Microsoft after August 1, 2004 If anyone would like to try the driver and report back it would be interesting for use of software like SageTV, Beyond TV and others.

I can't--my system is K's of miles away.

TKS to Mr. JAVA and ALL:
Getting some of these things/problems kind of sorted out today - so maybe you can help me from here:
1] to TEST to see whether it might just be the Tuner and it's capabilities preventing me picking up what were my most powerful local digital channels or not - - - I connected the antenna back up to my HDTV's built in tuner....WALA.....Perfect reception.....don't think I even needed to buy the new antenna. And it appears I wish I'd never bought this ATI All in Wonder hd 650 PCIe which is in this HTPC I bought. At least I now know forget the PC Tuner........will really miss the guide info though. Vanilla OTA....is a grab bag.
2] About no sound out of SPDIF....I decided to put in the MSI CDROM and re-install the Realteck drivers/program........so it first uninstalls them.....then I try my sound.......right off the bat, I notice when I scanned lightly over the sound icon.....was using the SPDIF......so I tested my MS Sound bag - all working....I then went to HULU and tried a show there.....WALA....Sound at least in Center, Right, Left Front.....which was quite an improvement and a BIG relief.........when I went into Device Manager it showed all the drivers were MS drivers.
I then re-installed the Realtek setup off of MSI disc......and went back to NO SOUND.....I think I now know why....when you read what it says over the sound icon now it says " HDMI" not "SPDIF" - - - - I think the ol' fella that was here setting it up....he had screens I cannot even FIND, in order to set it up right, and I remember he was real shaky on which options to choose...I kept telling him "SPDIF" and he kept thinking it was HDMI....appears he must have ignored me and picked HDMI......and I cannot for the life of me get to initial setup program for it. I looked at that little connector job to connect up the 5.1 card....WOW! That would drive me even crazier, little holes for wires and even littler screws - YIKES!

Can someone tel me how to access original setup of that Realteck Sound Program?

Also - the man I got this from e-mailed me with what he said was a solution for the poor reception from tuner card.....said I needed to use the features available on the ATI Catalyst Media Center,,,,,,,I don't know if he even installed it.....all I can find is the Catalyst Control Center....NO C. Media Center - which has the very tools that I need. Does anyone know HOW/where to look for this mystery software?

Getting BURNT out on this new high tech toy - let me tell you

TKS michael

He could have been using either the Realtek control panel or the Windows control panel. Either one will do what you want to do.

Right click the white speaker in the taskbar (bottom right) and select "Playback devices". If you have only a couple of icons and some arrows pointing to the left, click the arrows to show all the icons.

In the window that pops up, right click the SPDIF output ("Realtek Digital Output" or something like that), then select "Set as default".