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post #2371 of 3488
6/27/09 at 12:44pm
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OK so what some may say is against better judgement, I flashed my Diva 7.1 with the new bios. As reported earlier, video along with every other device needed to be reinstalled. I did run into two snags. The IR device in the Moneual 312 was unrecognised after the update. Powering down the HTPC and pulling the power plug did the trick. My second issue was my AverMedia Duet HD (A188) was no longer recognised by the system, not even in the BIOS list of devices on the boot screen. I moved the card from the PCI-e x1 (closest to the CPU) to the PCI-e x16 and it worked fine. In the BIOS I set the Integrated Graphics option to GFX0-....(don't know if that made a difference).

System-wise I don't see much a difference. Also loaded the Catalyst 9.6 drivers.
Anyway, as others have said, if you don't need the update, don't bother.

Michael.
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post #2372 of 3488
6/30/09 at 11:07am
Hi all,

I tried to use SpeedFan under Windows 7 RC1, but it seems that it is not able to correctly detect temp and fan speed on this board.

Someone found a sw that is able to monitor this board under Win 7?
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post #2373 of 3488
6/30/09 at 12:10pm
Can you use the Amp card to run outdoor speakers for music and use the HDMI through the Onkyo for the Home Theater or is it one or the other once you install the card?
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post #2374 of 3488
6/30/09 at 12:17pm
Hope this is NOT breaking the forum/thread rules...IS so, please delete to garbage can.............

I have NOT used my 5.1 AMP/Sound Card that came with my MOBO and I just installed a new Graphics Card that took up two spots in there - thus had to remove it.....would be willing to sell it IF you are interested, make me a FAIR offer and I will send it on it's merry way.

TKS michael
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post #2375 of 3488
6/30/09 at 12:50pm
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Originally Posted by jh2pizza View Post

Can you use the Amp card to run outdoor speakers for music and use the HDMI through the Onkyo for the Home Theater or is it one or the other once you install the card?

Both the HDMI and Amp are treated as separate sound sources/sound cards in Windows. So it'll work just like any other multiple sound card computer - that is, it can be done but it's kind of a pain in the butt because you constantly have to switch which of the sound sources is the default/primary one.

However, there are a few programs that will allow you to choose which sound card to output to regardless of which is set to be the default - Winamp[1] being one of them. So if the primary purpose for your outdoor speakers would be to play music then you could set up Winamp[1] to be your jukebox player going through the amp, then set the HDMI to be the default windows output for all your other needs. In fact with such a setup you could play sound through both the amp and HDMI simultaneously.

[1]There may be other programs which allow you to set which sound card to output to, but Winamp is the one I'm most familiar with.
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post #2376 of 3488
6/30/09 at 6:25pm
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However, there are a few programs that will allow you to choose which sound card to output to regardless of which is set to be the default - Winamp[1] being one of them. So if the primary purpose for your outdoor speakers would be to play music then you could set up Winamp[1] to be your jukebox player going through the amp, then set the HDMI to be the default windows output for all your other needs. In fact with such a setup you could play sound through both the amp and HDMI simultaneously.

[1]There may be other programs which allow you to set which sound card to output to, but Winamp is the one I'm most familiar with.

Basically, stream music from the internet such as xm or Pandora. If I connect the HTPC with the RCA jacks versus the HDMI, would that be an analog input? The issue I am having is with the receivers Zone 2 only working with Analog signal.
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post #2377 of 3488
6/30/09 at 6:41pm
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Originally Posted by jh2pizza View Post

Basically, stream music from the internet such as xm or Pandora. If I connect the HTPC with the RCA jacks versus the HDMI, would that be an analog input? The issue I am having is with the receivers Zone 2 only working with Analog signal.

The RCA outs mirror the front left and right outputs of the amp/preamp.
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post #2378 of 3488
7/2/09 at 12:25pm
I'm just curious if anyone has had any problems with the 2 channel analog out with this board. I'm trying to trouble shoot a problem with a board that has the 5.1 amp card. I'm not getting any output out of 2nd zone channels.

I have done vanilla installs of both Vista and Windows 7 with and without the D2Audio drivers. I'm unable to get any sound to come out of the seperate 2 channel out.

The other problem is the audio in is not outputting to the amplified card. Windows detects incoming sound but nothing is ever outputted.

Just curious if anyone has any suggestions.
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post #2379 of 3488
7/2/09 at 12:29pm
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Originally Posted by jbworks View Post

I'm just curious if anyone has had any problems with the 2 channel analog out with this board. I'm trying to trouble shoot a problem with a board that has the 5.1 amp card. I'm not getting any output out of 2nd zone channels.

I have done vanilla installs of both Vista and Windows 7 with and without the D2Audio drivers. I'm unable to get any sound to come out.

The other problem is the audio in is not outputting to the amplified card. Windows detects incoming sound but nothing is ever outputted.

Just curious if anyone has any suggestions.

If you are not getting sound through the amp card OR the analog outputs, it sounds like you are not using the D2 device as your default output.

If it is set as your default output device, try setting the default output format to 48/16 or 48/24.
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post #2380 of 3488
7/3/09 at 1:08am
Hi,

I haven't been able to find any discussion on why there aren't any tone controlling features in the D2Audio driver or a graphic equalizer?

Most audio chips have these features, even low end. Am I missing something in my software setup for the MS-7411? I am running the 5ch power amp with all the latest drivers installed under vista ultimate and it is working but it is lacking in features in my opinion.

Regards
Jens
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post #2381 of 3488
7/3/09 at 8:55am
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Originally Posted by tisnot View Post

Has anyone successfully installed a 705e on this board?

... my 1.5 yr old 780g gigabyte with a 3 mn old bios runs it fine...

I updated the bios using Jacks manual with the 5050e. Flashing without problems. After that I put in a 705e, running smoothly.
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post #2382 of 3488
7/3/09 at 11:33am
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Originally Posted by jschoorl View Post

I updated the bios using Jacks manual with the 5050e. Flashing without problems. After that I put in a 705e, running smoothly.

VERY GLAD to hear everything went SMOOTHLY for you.....especially after hearing SCARY reports about Flahing up this BIOS. Could you PLEASE share a LINK to Jack's Manual wo I too might do the same w/o problems.

TKS michael
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post #2383 of 3488
7/3/09 at 1:33pm
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Originally Posted by cyberized View Post

VERY GLAD to hear everything went SMOOTHLY for you.....especially after hearing SCARY reports about Flahing up this BIOS. Could you PLEASE share a LINK to Jack's Manual wo I too might do the same w/o problems.

TKS michael

Bios upgrade link

ps. I did a fresh Win 7 install !
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post #2384 of 3488
7/3/09 at 7:51pm
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Originally Posted by jens_rasmussen View Post

Hi,

I haven't been able to find any discussion on why there aren't any tone controlling features in the D2Audio driver or a graphic equalizer?

Most audio chips have these features, even low end. Am I missing something in my software setup for the MS-7411? I am running the 5ch power amp with all the latest drivers installed under vista ultimate and it is working but it is lacking in features in my opinion.

Regards
Jens

Coming soon we hope! If you have not read the blog linked below, you should take a look at it:
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Originally Posted by Java Jack View Post

Thanks. I guess you could say both.

The signal flow is a result of the f/w. Therefore, new f/w beyond this upcoming release could add some other functionality. However, f/w alone is not enough...it really needs to have the capabilities of the chip to really make the majic happen.

I don't know if the inputs could be mapped os outpus. I don't think so, but will ask the D2 guys to be sure.


Thanks for the feedback. Anyone else have comments on the new features coming? Are you guys excitied about what we are trying to enable?

For those that have not see it yet...

http://links.amd.com/TurnItUp
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post #2385 of 3488
7/4/09 at 7:22am
So I know have two Diva systems one with a 5050e and 2GB and one with a 705e with 4 GB ram. Both have one SATA hdd (content is played from a NAS).

Both systems I flashed with the new BIOS, this went smoooth and I am using Win 7 (new fresh install, 7100, 74Bit). I thought both systems where running fine (everything was recogniced) but I noticed that both systems are running much slower than before. Typing and mouse handling is very slow. The 705e is even slower than the 5050e ?

Both systems have no extra videocard, have one SATA hdd and a SATA DVD drive.

I suspect that the Bios settings are far from optimal. (I loaded the optimal settings) and set it to RAID.

So anyone already figured out what the optimal settings are?
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post #2386 of 3488
7/4/09 at 9:13am
I have the ATI wonder Combo 650 in my MSI HTPC as the Tunder Card - it has 2 INPUTS, the upper one is Digital, and I presently have my TV Antenna connected in there........I don't have Cable anymore or SAT, so NOTHING is going into the other connector. I'm not sure, but I "think" the 2nd connection is for ANALOG???

IF I was to go back to Cable....would it be BEST to connect up the Cable input to where I have the TV Antenna IN right now [the digital connector] and then that signal would go thru my HTPC and the 4670 ATI card. OR - would it be best to leave my connections there alone and just go straight from the Cable box via HDMI to my AVR?

TKS michael
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post #2387 of 3488
7/4/09 at 9:58am
@jrschool

Are both systems identical in build other than the processor? What I mean is, the same RAM (if so, double-check your timings and make sure they match your modules' specs), power supply type (Wattage, or even manufacturer), installed programs (might want to list those; perhaps both have the same program that's eating system resources, like the same antivirus program for example)...

Windows 7 has been something else on this hardware. I had installed the 32-bit version at first, but had random lockups for no apparent reason. After installing the X64 version, my system's ran like a champ. But it's possible the file's corrupt, since any number of glitches can occur during a lengthy download like what's needed for the Windows RC (a bad download might have caused my problems with the 32-bit version, just as that might be the case with your X64). You might try downloading the installation files again and try from scratch as an option, if it turns out some hungry background program isn't causing the issue.

[Edit] Did you flash your BIOS before installing Windows? Or was it running fine... you flashed the BIOS... now it's clunky on the same Windows installation?
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post #2388 of 3488
7/4/09 at 10:46am
Thread Starter 
I never load "optimal" bios settings. I always go in and set the parameters that I want only.
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post #2389 of 3488
7/4/09 at 11:53am
Volume issues.

I connected amp card to JBL SCS 145.5 8ohm speakers but i can't get enough volume from the speakers. The Vista volume is maxed up to 100 but volume is still too weak to understand normal conversations in movies (routing sounds to TV through HDMI is a lot louder). I have a 380w PSU i just don't know if i'm missing any volume control or anything. Are there any other places to control the volume of the amp card aside from the Control Panel? I don't know if i'm missing a setting because i don't think the 100w/ch amp should sound this weak.
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post #2390 of 3488
7/4/09 at 12:30pm
BIOS Upgrade Issue - Have boot to USB and run the flash command. It's been 10 minutes and the system has not returned to a command prompt with any sort of message. This was a new system that I've burned in for 4 days, loading the OS a couple of times, copying data to the drive, etc, without failure. I'm afraid to reboot or power down at this point, but I can't think of any alternatives. Any ideas before I pull the plug?

**UPDATE - I pulled the USB drive and restarted - it has come up normally and is working so far. BIOS stayed at 1.10. I tried booting off the USB again. The keyboard response is sporadic, like a buffer issue. After about 7 characters the screen doesn't reflect a key press. After about 5 seconds I can enter a few more characters, but it stops again. A second keyboard exhibits the same symptoms, so it's either the USB drive or something else. Have a couple of drives at work - will try those later.
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post #2391 of 3488
7/4/09 at 1:23pm
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Originally Posted by rlm1241 View Post

**UPDATE - I pulled the USB drive and restarted - it has come up normally and is working so far. BIOS stayed at 1.10. I tried booting off the USB again. The keyboard response is sporadic, like a buffer issue. After about 7 characters the screen doesn't reflect a key press. After about 5 seconds I can enter a few more characters, but it stops again. A second keyboard exhibits the same symptoms, so it's either the USB drive or something else. Have a couple of drives at work - will try those later.

I actually had that issue the one time I tried booting to a Win9x bootdisk. I discovered that removing and reinserting the keyboard allowed me to enter a few more characters before it went unresponsive again. Do that enough times and you can get the job done. Figured it was just my keyboard.

The next time I tried it was to flash the BIOS; for that I just put all of the necessary commands in the autoexec.bat, which ran it fine.
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post #2392 of 3488
7/4/09 at 2:10pm
Why did you set it up for RAID, with only a single HDD? Am I misreading something?
Are the KB and mouse cordless, or require an updated driver for Win7?
I'm a few hundred miles away from my Diva so I can't check how I'm setup in BIOS. But those are two things that jumped out at me.
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Originally Posted by jschoorl View Post

So I know have two Diva systems one with a 5050e and 2GB and one with a 705e with 4 GB ram. Both have one SATA hdd (content is played from a NAS).

Both systems I flashed with the new BIOS, this went smoooth and I am using Win 7 (new fresh install, 7100, 74Bit). I thought both systems where running fine (everything was recogniced) but I noticed that both systems are running much slower than before. Typing and mouse handling is very slow. The 705e is even slower than the 5050e ?

Both systems have no extra videocard, have one SATA hdd and a SATA DVD drive.

I suspect that the Bios settings are far from optimal. (I loaded the optimal settings) and set it to RAID.

So anyone already figured out what the optimal settings are?
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post #2393 of 3488
7/5/09 at 12:08am
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Originally Posted by writersblock73 View Post

@jrschool

Are both systems identical in build other than the processor? What I mean is, the same RAM (if so, double-check your timings and make sure they match your modules' specs), power supply type (Wattage, or even manufacturer), installed programs (might want to list those; perhaps both have the same program that's eating system resources, like the same antivirus program for example)...

Windows 7 has been something else on this hardware. I had installed the 32-bit version at first, but had random lockups for no apparent reason. After installing the X64 version, my system's ran like a champ. But it's possible the file's corrupt, since any number of glitches can occur during a lengthy download like what's needed for the Windows RC (a bad download might have caused my problems with the 32-bit version, just as that might be the case with your X64). You might try downloading the installation files again and try from scratch as an option, if it turns out some hungry background program isn't causing the issue.

[Edit] Did you flash your BIOS before installing Windows? Or was it running fine... you flashed the BIOS... now it's clunky on the same Windows installation?

I did a Bios flash and did a fresh Win7, 64 bit install afterwards. I have a look into the systemresources. Both systems run a crossair 350W power supply. I will have a look into memory timings. Memory on both systems isn't the same, although both where listed on MSI side. I will timings give a try later this evening.

ps for one sata HDD which kind of setting I should use (SATA, AHCI ...) ?
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post #2394 of 3488
7/5/09 at 12:12am
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Originally Posted by Java Jack View Post

I never load "optimal" bios settings. I always go in and set the parameters that I want only.

Okay, but you are a top notch engineer , I am just a bit lazy customer, that isn't quit familiair with all those many settings in the bios

If it ain't to much trouble I am very interested in what settings you are using with what setup.
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post #2395 of 3488
7/5/09 at 12:14am
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Originally Posted by JoeWPgh View Post

Why did you set it up for RAID, with only a single HDD? Am I misreading something?
Are the KB and mouse cordless, or require an updated driver for Win7?
I'm a few hundred miles away from my Diva so I can't check how I'm setup in BIOS. But those are two things that jumped out at me.

Okay, good point. Should I set it to AHCI or IDI ?

Both systems are running a cordless mouse and keyboard from Logitech (dinivo and a ..100). I loaded the Vista 64 bit drivers (win7 aren't) there yet.
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post #2396 of 3488
7/5/09 at 2:26am
Well, I had many problems with the popping / crackling audio from the 5.1 device.

I pointed out that the problem lies in the hardware acceleration. When not using the hardware acceleration I dont have popping audio anymore. I hope this will help others.
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post #2397 of 3488
7/5/09 at 7:27am
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Originally Posted by jschoorl View Post

okay, good point. Should i set it to ahci or idi ?

Set it to AHCI.
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post #2398 of 3488
7/5/09 at 11:18am
anyone seen the new AMD chips for sale yet? The below two would be perfect for this board.

Athlon II X3 405e 2,3GHz 1,5MB L2 cache 45W
Athlon II X3 400e 2,2GHz 1,5MB L2 cache 45W
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post #2399 of 3488
7/5/09 at 2:16pm
Question - how do you force the the "Display Manager" to show up? I can't get that option, even when I create a profile for it. Anyone have a recommendation on how to get that up? I'm having trouble with component out on an RP TV- KP-61 HS10 Sony. It just flickers a double-image and puts the TV in 480i mode. Is there a way to create a display setting on a different PC and export to a profile that I can copy over to this box and put in the StartUp? I have the newest 9.6 CCC, but it hasn't helped.
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post #2400 of 3488
7/5/09 at 3:17pm
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Originally Posted by jschoorl View Post

Okay, good point. Should I set it to AHCI or IDI ?

Unless performance issues with AHCI and the SB700 chipset have been resolved I would not use AHCI. I am three months away from my system and counting. So I don't know.

There is some functionality (e.g. hot removal of drives for eSATA) that AHCI brings you which may make the compromise worthwhile. This also explains why eSATA was left off the board.
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