Originally Posted by gbaby
Mike, I really appreciate your response as you have an excellent system where one can appreciate good electronics. However, I am concerned about your comment that you can tell a "discernible" difference in the sound of the old codecs versus the new codecs. For the money that the 3800 cost, it would have to be a major jump in sound not discernible. I, too, have a decent system with my pre/pro being an Arcam AV9 with a Krell and Aleph J amps. I am concerned that my Arcam may sound just as good with its legacy format as with the sound of the new codecs and getting the new codecs would only produce an incremental not "major" improvement in the sound. Is this true?
It all depends upon definitions of major vs. discernible, to me the change is sufficient to warrant the cost of the 3800BDCI and make me long for the day when all music (which is really my passion) is produced on Bluray discs in any of the three "lossless" formats as it is significantly better than anything that is currently out there on CD or DTS DVDs. Don't know about SA or DVD-A since I did not invest in these formats as they always seemed temporary, a compromise based upon the storage space avaialble at that time and certainly not universally utilized.
To be honest, most of my purchases over the years have been incremental, the incremental improvement gets smaller and the cost of each increment goes up! Based upon your setup I believe you will be very impressed by the audio improvement with any of the three TrueHD, LPCM, DTS-MA. It is very difficult to determine if there is any difference between the three of them since they all do not appear on one disc. But across discs using any of the three my aging ears cannot perceive any difference in quality.
The analogy I would use is comparing a good modern recording on vinyl on a good deck against a CD. If you have the right equipment and manage to keep the record in good condition it is always going to sound better than the CD.
One of the "tests" I like to use is how long can you listen to something before your ears become fatigued and you want to turn it down. I can listen to BDs using the lossless codecs at higher volumes producing a more theater like environment, whereas sometimes with DVDs I want to turn the volume down because of fatigue.
I am not sure this helps you because it is still all subjective. I do not have any cold facts of figures for the differences I can hear. I can only repeat what many in this forum have already said, that the lossless codecs sound better than the legacy codecs, sufficiently so to justify the cost based upon the audio alone.