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DIY SCREENSHOT SHOWCASE - COMMENTS & QUESTIONS
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~ Cautionary Note ~

This thread will contain photographs of images projected onto DIY Screens that were implemented by the members of this forum. What you see on your monitor is subject to the performance of several pieces of equipment and the environment in which that equipment was setup. In addition it will be dependent on how well the equipment is calibrated and also on the photography skills of the member presenting the photos. It is therefore imperative that you the reviewer take all this into account when looking at the resulting screenshot images and not pass judgment too harshly on the DIY Screen since it will be playing a fairly minor roll in the quality of the resulting screenshot images.

Introduction

This thread is intended to provide a common repository for screenshots taken of various DIY Screens that have been implemented by the members of the DIY Screen Community. As such it is meant to be a fun and entertaining thread with much less emphasis on technical merit and more emphasis on showing off the fruits of one's labors.

An attempt will be made to provide some basic instruction on how to take screenshots using a point-and-shoot digital camera, as well as how and where to have your photographs hosted. Finally it will be suggested that contributors make use of thumbnail images so that the pages will load reasonably quickly.


Library Of Source Images:

I have spent some time scouring the internet for high resolution images that represent a fairly broad cross section of image types. First I should point out that, to the best of my knowledge, these are all Public Domain Images. That means we are not violating any copyrights or need to pay any kind of royalties to utilize these images freely for our personal use.

While the emphasis of this thread is to be entertaining the use of these digital source images does have some technical advantages. The advantages will be outline more completely in a following post, but I would like to highlight one advantage up front. Since we have the actual digital source image, it is possible to post both the screenshot and the original image side-by-side.

[ Screenshot ] . . . . . . . [ Source Image ]

Click images to enlarge.

At first glance this may seem counter to the purpose of showing off one's results, but it does provide some meaningful insight. The screenshot is never going to be as good as the original, That's a fact, but to be able to see what it should look like in a perfect world, helps to put things into a more realistic perspective.

While I would encourage people to use these images, it is not a requirement. If you wish to capture images of some of your favorite movies scenes that is your prerogative. Feel free to post any screenshots you feel best represents the results you have achieved.


Index
Limitations

Suggested Content

Image Library

Screenshot Basics

Photography Instructions For Taking Screenshots

Free Photo Editors

Hosting Screenshots

Image Hosting Websites {PhotoBucket / WebShots / Flickr / Picasa }

Include Equipment & Setup Information

Tiddler's Example!

Eager Beavers

Let The Show Begin
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Limitations

Please keep in mind that between a digital source image and the screenshot presented in a forum, there are several pieces of equipment and environmental factors that effect the quality of the screenshot.

[ Digital Source Image ] > > >
  1. DVD Player or Video Card, including the setup/calibration
  2. Transmission technology (analog/digital)
  3. Cable quality and length
  4. Projector, performance, setup, and calibration
  5. Environmental surfaces and ambient light.
  6. Screen Performance
  7. Digital Camera accuracy & settings (user skill)
  8. TRUST, has the image been enhanced by a photo editor?
> > > [ Screenshot Image ]

I am not against editing the captured photo, as long as that is disclosed and the unaltered image is presented along with the enhanced version. In the hands of a skilled photographer, camera settings and photo editor enhancements are often used to make photographs look great. In this sort of exercise the goal should be to make them as accurate a representation of what the presenter is seeing. In the end we must place some trust in the presenter but keep in mind this is the internet and "everything" should be taken with a grain of salt.
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Suggested Content

Bright Scenes



Dark Scenes



Mixed Scenes



Shadow Detail



White Detail


Colorful



Flesh Tones



Detailed
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Image Library

I have searched out some nice images that are free to download and use. These are Public Domain images that require no royalties to be paid.

The collections are located in the folder: tiddlerPics>Test Images>Screen Shot Collections
4x3 1080p These are the images setup as 4:3 format and a resolution of 1080p. I know many projectors are 1024x768 and I assumed that it is better to down convert an image rather than up-convert it. So these images should be useful for the current XGA and the future SXGA (1400x1050). If there is enough interest I will create a second 4:3 version that is higher resolution.

4x3 - 1024x768 is the same set of images but formated for 4:3 1024x768 resolution presentation projectors.

16x9 1080p is the same set of images but formated for 16:9 1080p. Again the assumption being that it is better to down-convert to 720p.

16x9 1080p 4x3-Stretch is the same set of images but formated to 16:9 and then squeezed down to 4:3 format. The reason for this is my PC monitor is 4:3 but my projector is 16:9. Since I could not find a way to get the 16:9 images to project properly, I made this set to allow me to project them stretched back out to 16:9 for my screen. This is by no means the end of the search for nice images to include in this library. As New images are located they will be added.
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Screenshot Basics

First of all I would like to state that I am no photographer, amateur or otherwise. What I will outline in this post is just the basics of how to take some reasonably good screenshots with a point and shot digital camera. I will keep the following post reserved for anyone who is a knowledgeable photographer to contribute more detailed instructions.
  1. Turn off the flash.
  2. Use a tripod or set the camera on a table or stool.
  3. If your camera has a timer, use it.
While you may think the image is quite bright, the camera will more than likely need to use a longer exposure time. That means that if the camera is not very stable the image will be blurry. By using the camera timer you can avoid inadvertently shaking the camera when you press the shutter button.

I generally just use the camera's Auto mode. There is also a night scene mode and a fireworks mode for my camera. Do a little experimenting to see what mode works best for bright and dark scenes.

Canon S2 Auto Mode


Canon S2 Night Portrait


Canon S2 Night Snapshot


Canon S2 Fireworks


Keep in mind that the goal here is to produce a photograph that represents what you see not the best that your camera can do. The Auto or Fireworks modes seem to produce the most accurate representation of what I see.

If however I was trying to make the images look as good as possible the Night Snapshot mode made the Northern Lights image look fantastic.

Framing: It is best to include some of the surroundings in the photograph. If there is some ambient light then the viewer can judge by the amount of light on the surrounding walls.
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Photography Instructions For Taking Screenshots

Looking for some expert instructions to include here.
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Photography Instructions For Taking Screenshots


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Free Photo Editers & Organizers


There are at least two free or "open source" applications available to perform photo editing. There may be more and if any are brought to my attention I will include links to them here.

One is called GIMP and is an open source project. There is a very comprehensive description available at Wikipedia. There is also comprehensive help available. For those familiar with the Adobe Photo Shop applications this will look and feel similar.

Another free image editor and photo organizer is Picasa that is from Google. It also includes a photo organizer that allows the cataloging and tagging of your photos. There is also the Picasa Web Albums web-hosting site. This allows you to share and post images to a forum like this.

If you do a Google search for "free photo editor" you will find several web pages with links to various applicatioins.

You will also find that some of the free photo web hosting sites now offer fairly powerful image editing tools online.
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Hosting Screenshots

The administration of this forum absolutely does NOT encourage the attachment of screen shot images to posts. It is suggested that images be posted to the image galleries.

There are three sizes of the image available in the gallery:

Small thumbnail:

[_IMG_]http://gallery.avsforum.com/data/508/thumbs/IMG_4243.jpg[_/IMG_]

Medium Size Image:

[_IMG_]http://gallery.avsforum.com/data/508/medium/IMG_4243.jpg[_/IMG_]

Full Size Image:

[_img_]http://gallery.avsforum.com/data/508/IMG_4243.jpg[_/img_]

NOTE: I have included the html codes with underscores included in the tags to disable them. To get the address to any image right click and select "Copy Image Location". You can then manually surround the link with the img tags or use the [Insert Image] button on the forum advanced editor page.


A Better Way To Post Screenshots

The recommended method of posting these screenshots from the gallery would be to display the thumbnail or the medium image and link it to the full size image. Like this:


Click image to enlarge.

Here is the disabled html code:
[_url=http://gallery.avsforum.com/data/508/IMG_4243.jpg][_img_]http://gallery.avsforum.com/data/508/medium/IMG_4243.jpg[_/img_][_/url_]

The reason this is recommended is to speed the loading of the thread pages. With only small images to render your browsers don't have to download as much information and display a full size image.

For many readers the medium size image may be large enough for them and they always have the option to view the full sized image.


An Alternative to the AVS Gallery

An alternative is to upload your photographs to a photo hosting website. This allows you to share your photos with the forum or even password protect collections to share with family and friends. Many sites are free with limited capability and capacity. The fees are usually in the order of $25 for a year of extended services and storage space. In the following posts I will identify a few of the more common photo hosting websites.
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Image Hosting Websites

If you search on Wikipedia there is a great page that describes "Image Hosting Services". One of these image hosting websites is the preferred location for you to store your screenshot images. I really can't add much to what is posted there.

Links to popular Image Hosting Websites:
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Include Equipment & Setup Information

Please do include as much information describing the equipment you have included in your home theater setup. This will give some idea to newcomers what equipment people are using and where to start looking for their future setup.

Any information pertaining to the room setup will also provide some clues as to what is possible given the limitations of one's room.

The more information you provide the better informed the newcomer will be.
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Tiddler's Practice Screen




Installation Type: Integration (living room)


Environment:

This is a lliving room integration. At the time these screenshots were taken the walls and ceiling were white. There is a large picture window and the back door with a tall narrow window in it. I have managed to block the windows well enough to enable daytime use. We usually have the table lamp on the end table turned on. It has a 60 watt bulb in it. Control of the lighting could be significantly improved. There is also ambient light provided by back lighting mounted on the rear of the screen valance.



Source Of Images:
Click here to see digital source images.

These 4:3 squeezed images were then stretched out to 16:9 by the projector.


Equipment:

Source: Personal Computer

Video Card: ASUS AX700Pro

Connection: 50' DVI-D Cable

Projector: Optoma HD72

Projector Setup:

Mode: Bright
Degamma: Video
Lamp Mode: Econo

Throw Distance: 14' 3"

DIY Screen:

The screen is 16:9 115" Diagonal.
The was implemented by painting an EluneVision retractable screen with Behr Exterior ULTRA Flat UPW #4850 tinted to ~N8.25 near neutral gray.

Click here for implementation details
Tiddler's Observations

I was able to use the provided callibration image to set the brightness and contrast optimally for the PC as the source. I use a separate projector mode for the lights out (cinema), ambient light (bright), and PC Source (sRGB). For these PC sourced images I setup the sRGB mode of my Optoma HD72 to get the best grayscale performance based on the calibration image.[indent]
[ Screenshot ] . . . . . . . [ Source Image ]




Generally the images look very good but it is apparent from this side-by-side of a screenshot and the source image that the brightness is subdued. It should also be noted that the shadow details are not well represented in the screenshots. It is my understanding from the reviews at ProjectorReviews.com that this is mostly due to the digital camera's lack of dynamic range.

I was very impressed with the resulting projected images. It appears that all the image detail is present. If I take the screenshot into PhotoShop Elements and employ the image enhancing tools I can almost duplicate the original. That simply tells me that most of the information is present in the projected image.



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Tiddler's Practice Screen

Tiddler's Favorites:









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Tiddler's Practice Screen

Tiddler's Movie Favorites:









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Tiddler's Final DIY Painted Retractable Screen

Coming Soon! (or she will kill me! )


Equipment List:


My Favorites:
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Tiddler's Final DIY Painted Retractable Screen

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Eager Beavers

If you are anxious to contribute now please do so but read the following brief summary of what to include. Please remember that this thread and what we contribute to it may the best ammunition our like minded fellows will have in convincing the people who control their lives that time, money, and household space should be allocated to such endeavors.

Title: Something like "Jackal's Stealth Screen"

Introduction: A paragraph describing what your objectives were and your general assesment of the results. If there is anything you are particularly proud of or would do differently they should be briefly described.


Installation Type: Dedicated / Integrated / Stealth / Portable

Environment:[indent]Include a brief description of any particular difficulties you may have encountered adapting you space for use as a home theater. Things like large windows and how you dealt with them. Include a couple of photographs that show the room setup. In particular the screen, projector, and any lighting specifically installed to facilitate optimum picture quality while affording some level of ambient light. I would suggest the following photographs.
  1. Wide angle from the projector end of the room
  2. Wide angle from the screen end of the room.
  3. Close up of the projector installation
  4. Full frame of the screen with high room lighting.
  5. Close up of the border or any other aspect that is a source of pride.
  6. If ambient light is to be present for screenshots then a wide angle of the room from the screen area showing the ambient light conditions.

Source of Images:
  • Link To Applicable Digital Source Image Collection
  • DVD / HD DVD / BluRay / HDTV / . . .
  • List movies if applicable

Equipment: This should identify the following:
  1. Source: DVD / HD DVD / BluRay / HD TV/ PC
  2. Make and model of player, or if PC then identify the Video Card
  3. Connection type and length
  4. Projector: Manufacturer and proper model#
  5. Projector Setup, Lenses or filters, any relevant projector setting
  6. throw distance
  7. Screen aspect ratio and size
  8. DIY Screen Solution: laminate / BOC / paint
  9. Link to any thread that contains details of the construction and implementation of your theater and/or DIY Screen

Your Observations: This is the place for you to describe the image quality and system performance as you see it.

Your Favorites: Last but not least a few of your favorites. The inclusion of the source image is optional but can be insightful. To allow for more of your favorites you could add a link to the source collection you used and therefore have more screenshot space. This will typically be the second post.

It should take two posts to cover the details and include your favorite screenshots. The first post primarily being descriptive information and the second containing up to 10 images. You can include 10 images, that includes smiley faces in one post.

Remember you can edit your posts at anytime so if you want to post some screenshots immediately but don't have time to setup all the information just submit two consecutive posts. In the first post enter "Setup Information coming . . ." and in the second post a few thumbnail links to your favorite screenshots.

Suggestion: Please find out how to post thumbnail images and links to the high resolution images. This will help to speed the loading of the web pages and allow you to link images in higher resolutions.

FROM THE AVS ADMINISTRATION: DO NOT ATTACH YOUR SCREENSHOTS TO THE POSTS!

Start Posting Those Gratuitous Screenshots Folks!
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Your screen shots start here!

Where are all those laminate and Black Widow users?

Come on guys start showing off your stuff!
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New picture.


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Quote:

You forgot the / in the closing img tag.
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Thanks. How do I make the medium size picture expand when it's clicked on?
EDIT..Original picture was deleted. Here's a new one.


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Originally Posted by kbgl View Post

Thanks. How do I make the medium size picture expand when it's clicked on?


You need to make the medium image the displayed item and associate it with the larger image.

[_url=large-image-address][_img_]medium-image.jpg[_/img_][_/url_]

Note that the original medium image address and it's img tags are inside the link and it's url tags. To get the link to the larger image, right click on the medium image in the gallery and select "Copy Link Location" (not Copy Image Location).

[_url=http://gallery.avsforum.com/data/508/suv.jpg][_img_]http://gallery.avsforum.com/data/508/medium/suv.jpg[_/img_][_/url_]


Click image to see large version.

NOTE: You can include up to ten images in one post. You can also edit posts and add some images later.
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I want to thank kbgl for the exchange of information in the last few posts. I'm sure it will help others to see how to post images.
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Hope this is better than my last post
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My camara isn't all that great, but because of this form I'm turning my garage into a H/T. Tiddler it all started when I read a forum about gray screens (Behr sliverscreen). I now am on this forum everyday trying to learn something new Thanks
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What happened to all of the great images that tiddler initially posted?
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Here is my DIY DW 106" laminate screen with velvet border.


Some 1.78:1 screen shots from my Sim2 Domino 30H with A3 and PS3 as sources. 13.5' throw, shelf mounted.




Here is the same screen with my 2.35:1, quite low tech, masking of rigid foam insulation covered in black felt.


Screen shots with 2.35 masking.





Crude but effective.

bguzman
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Here is my cheap BO screen in action.


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