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post #2671 of 3108
12/30/08 at 1:36pm
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Originally Posted by osv View Post

i'd imagine that there is a workaround or an alternative blu-ray authoring/burning program that will work for the sony and your hardware.

also, have you called hp support about the issue?

I am on the phone with Sony right now - on hold that is. I've spent a couple of hours on the phone with LG and Sony, and nobody can solve the compatibility problems. Sony's technician even has access to my computer and is directing with a last pointer icon.

I am not sure I see a fix, but you never know.
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post #2672 of 3108
12/30/08 at 1:39pm
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Originally Posted by Kimwyn View Post

quick question guys, I am interested in getting the SR10 which is simply the SR11 with less memory, but i need to know if i can transfer the videos in HD straight from the camera to my PS3???? will there be a loss in resolution???? this is certainly a deal breaker for me....thanks in advance.

Just FYI: the SR10 isn't a SR11 with less HDD space. There are a lot of other differences, including a lower rez sensor, no viewfinder and smaller LCD with a quarter of the resolution. Here's a post comparing the two:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...=#post13883024

I'll leave it up to you if ~$140 price difference is worth it for all these features, but the HDD size is far from being the only difference.

Note that the SR11 and SR12 on the other hand are completly identical except for the HDD size.
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post #2673 of 3108
12/30/08 at 2:19pm
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Quote:Originally Posted by Ken Steadman
What software are you using to make your Blu rays?

Danielwd: The software that came with the LG burner - I believe it's called Power Producer.

Ken, it looks like you were right on, and it also looks like I owe an apology to Sony. I dealt with one of their technicians that "broke" into my computer and realized that I was using an old version of Cyberlink's PowerProducer and Power2Go software, all of this despite that a LG technician failed to recognize this shortcoming himself earlier this morning. Remember that Cyberlink's software came with LG's internal blu-ray burner. So this means that one of LG's technicians failed to recognize the fact that I was running an old version of 'their' software. The old software does not recognized AVCHD files.

So get this, and this is good. LG is knowingly selling their multiblue burner with old software from Cyberlink that is not compatible with AVCHD content. That just really pisses me off.

Now, I need to choose some third-party software that can import AVCHD content and use the LG burner to burn the content onto a blu-ray disc.

Does anyone have any suggestions? Does NERO 9 recognize AVCHD and can it be compatible enough to use the LG multiblue burner to burn HD content onto a blu-ray disc?
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post #2674 of 3108
12/30/08 at 8:36pm
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Originally Posted by danielwd View Post

Ken, it looks like you were right on, and it also looks like I owe an apology to Sony. I dealt with one of their technicians that "broke" into my computer and realized that I was using an old version of Cyberlink's PowerProducer and Power2Go software, all of this despite that a LG technician failed to recognize this shortcoming himself earlier this morning. Remember that Cyberlink's software came with LG's internal blu-ray burner. So this means that one of LG's technicians failed to recognize the fact that I was running an old version of 'their' software. The old software does not recognized AVCHD files.

So get this, and this is good. LG is knowingly selling their multiblue burner with old software from Cyberlink that is not compatible with AVCHD content. That just really pisses me off.

Now, I need to choose some third-party software that can import AVCHD content and use the LG burner to burn the content onto a blu-ray disc.

Does anyone have any suggestions? Does NERO 9 recognize AVCHD and can it be compatible enough to use the LG multiblue burner to burn HD content onto a blu-ray disc?

I use Vegas pro 8 with DVD architect and though you can get it cheaper with an educational discount its still not really cheap. You might want to look at vegas movie studio platinum pro pack I have heard good things about it and its only $99.

I'm sure someone in this thread is using it? Speak up?
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post #2675 of 3108
12/31/08 at 3:24am
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Originally Posted by Ken Steadman View Post

I use Vegas pro 8 with DVD architect and though you can get it cheaper with an educational discount its still not really cheap. You might want to look at vegas movie studio platinum pro pack I have heard good things about it and its only $99.

I'm sure someone in this thread is using it? Speak up?

I am an SR11 owner, and have been trying out Sony Vetgas MS Plat Pro Pack 9.0b for the last few weeks, and generally like it. I've created regular DVD's, YouTube videos, etc., and am very satisfied in that regard.

But it crashes when rendering 1920x1080-60i AVCHD files (.m2ts or .mp4). This problem is also reported in Sony's support forums, but it isn't clear if this is a universal problem, or only in certain systems and configurations.

I've asked this same question now in several threads, but have yet to get answers:
  • Is anybody successfully using Sony Vegas Movie Studio 9 with their original AVCHD files to render 1920x1080-60i Dolby 5.1 AVCHD files (mt2s or mp4) which could then be burnt to plain DVD and played back on PS3 or appropriate BluRay player?

  • And as another follow-up: can anybody with Vegas Pro 8.x render full 1920x1080-6-I Dolby 5.1 AVCHD files frp, SR11/SR12, etc.?
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post #2676 of 3108
12/31/08 at 7:14am
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Originally Posted by DLCPhoto View Post

[*]And as another follow-up: can anybody with Vegas Pro 8.x render full 1920x1080-6-I Dolby 5.1 AVCHD files frp, SR11/SR12, etc.?[/list]

Okay... I did a few experiments for you.

First, I don't have a avchd cam but I do have a small pile of avc samples downloaded from the net.

They range from 1440 to 1920, ntsc to PAL, TS, M2TS, MTS..... about 8 minutes worth and I just took them all and threw them on the timeline (in Vegas 8c). I tried to render out as avc (just the video stream) 1920x1080 at 18M.... and I got nothing but crashing

So I took it all over Vegas 8.1 (Vegas 64 bit version). Again... put it all as-is on the time line with no prior converting and let her rip. My settings were AVC (just the video stream) 1920x1080 60i at 18Mpbs (BTW... there is a 20M setting there but I didn't bother trying it).

While that was rendering I opened up another instance of 8.1 (with vegas pro, unlike any other editor, you can open and run multiple instances at the same time), loaded the same project into the new instance and created my AC3 (DD5.1) file.

Everything went just fine... even the PAL 25p sample was converted over with no issues (there is NO smart render for avchd however). I then took the AVC and AC3 files over to DVDa and burned a avchd blu ray 25gig disk (some were complaining that they could not do a REAL blu Ray disk in avchd). DVDa accepted both files with no recompressing at all.

So the message is that while Vegas pro 8c struggled and failed.... 8.1 went off without any issues at all.

The bottom line is that with the FULL pro version you have quite a few options at your disposal (including access to the free 8.1 64bit download)... so if one road doesn't work, there is always another one to take.
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post #2677 of 3108
12/31/08 at 7:32am
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Originally Posted by DLCPhoto View Post

I am an SR11 owner, and have been trying out Sony Vetgas MS Plat Pro Pack 9.0b for the last few weeks, and generally like it. I've created regular DVD's, YouTube videos, etc., and am very satisfied in that regard.

But it crashes when rendering 1920x1080-60i AVCHD files (.m2ts or .mp4). This problem is also reported in Sony's support forums, but it isn't clear if this is a universal problem, or only in certain systems and configurations.

I've asked this same question now in several threads, but have yet to get answers:
  • Is anybody successfully using Sony Vegas Movie Studio 9 with their original AVCHD files to render 1920x1080-60i Dolby 5.1 AVCHD files (mt2s or mp4) which could then be burnt to plain DVD and played back on PS3 or appropriate BluRay player?

  • And as another follow-up: can anybody with Vegas Pro 8.x render full 1920x1080-6-I Dolby 5.1 AVCHD files frp, SR11/SR12, etc.?

I just did that on Pro 8 two weeks ago it took very long to render and it conked out as an MP4 but worked as mt2s. However, I rendered as 29.97P though not 60i and didnt do audio.

I assumed it was not vegas though, I thought that the problem was my machine because it was my old single core editing rig.

I just now copied the mt2s file to a DVD and played it on my PS3 to check for you and it ran fine (198mb for 105 secs).
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post #2678 of 3108
12/31/08 at 8:31am
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Originally Posted by DLCPhoto View Post

[*]And as another follow-up: can anybody with Vegas Pro 8.x render full 1920x1080-6-I Dolby 5.1 AVCHD files frp, SR11/SR12, etc.?[/list]

In testing Vegas 8.1 with avchd disks (dvd media).... it works but not without issue


8.1 seems to have the same irritating bug that 8b and 8c have... it produces a BDMV disk but the PS3 does not recognize it as such. Instead it is looked at as a data disk and you must open the bdmv stream folder and manually start the video.


After that however the resulting disk was playable in the PS3 with good data rates (fluctuating between 17 and 21Mbps) and good AC3 (5.1) sound.
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post #2679 of 3108
12/31/08 at 9:13am
Many thanks to you, bigbarney, for taking the time to run those tests for me. And thanks to Ken Steadman as well.

Since I have a 64-bit Vista system, I would definitely want 8.1. The B&H version (without DVDA and AC-3) says only Version 8, not specifying which flavor, but apparently I can upgrade to 8.1 without additional cost.

The remaining question is whether Vegas Movie Studio 9b can successfully render 1920x1080-60i Dolby 5.1 .mt2s or .mp4 files. I'd have to think that somebody here has both the SR11/SR12, and using Sony Vegas Movie Studio 9b to render full res AVCHD files!

I think the Pro version is more than I need for my limited purposes, and I'm reluctant to spend another chunk of change to get the full version.

At the same time, I'm reluctant to pay for SVMS9 and not be able to render full resolution AVCHD files at least in the near future!

Thanks again.
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post #2680 of 3108
12/31/08 at 5:12pm
Wow is all I have to say! And a hearty "sorry" to Sony. Thanks again Ken for your suggestion. I just authored my first Blu-Ray disc using AVCHD files from my Sony HDR-SR11 using my HP quad core and LG multiblue BD burner (and Corel MovieFactory6 plus), and all I have to say is that the video quality and resolution on my Mitsubishi 73" blew my wife and I out of our seats. All of this despite of the fact that I almost returned it all.
I still think LG and Sony need to do better informing people of my level of computer incompetence how to do things!
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post #2681 of 3108
1/1/09 at 7:57am
My son owns a Canon HF100, the HD camcorder that uses SD flash memory as the media. He recently has played his recorded SD on a Panny blu-ray player with the HD quality. This seems to be a simple and affordable way of playing back HD video on a TV, when burning a DVD with AVCHD is not so streamlined. I checked the features of some Sony blu-ray players. They could not play the memory stick.

I happen to have a Panny blu-ray player but not a PS3. Is there an easy way to copy AVCHD files from a memory stick pro duo to an SD?
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post #2682 of 3108
1/1/09 at 8:48am
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Originally Posted by gjl148 View Post

My son owns a Canon HF100, the HD camcorder that uses SD flash memory as the media. He recently has played his recorded SD on a Panny blu-ray player with the HD quality. This seems to be a simple and affordable way of playing back HD video on a TV, when burning a DVD with AVCHD is not so streamlined. I checked the features of some Sony blu-ray players. They could not play the memory stick.

I happen to have a Panny blu-ray player but not a PS3. Is there an easy way to copy AVCHD files from a memory stick pro duo to an SD?

I would just buy something like this and use your computer to transfer them.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...er_Writer.html

BTW the 60 gb PS3s have built in card readers at least mine does.
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post #2683 of 3108
1/1/09 at 5:12pm
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Originally Posted by Ken Steadman View Post

I would just buy something like this and use your computer to transfer them.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...er_Writer.html

BTW the 60 gb PS3s have built in card readers at least mine does.

Apparently the new PS3's do not have a card reader. I would have bought one if they did. I bought a Panasonic instead. It has an SD reader, but no MS reader. I might have bought a Sony BR player, but they don't even have a MS reader, believe it or not.
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post #2684 of 3108
1/2/09 at 12:22am
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Originally Posted by DLCPhoto View Post

The remaining question is whether Vegas Movie Studio 9b can successfully render 1920x1080-60i Dolby 5.1 .mt2s or .mp4 files. I'd have to think that somebody here has both the SR11/SR12, and using Sony Vegas Movie Studio 9b to render full res AVCHD files!

Nope. Same here. SR11 and Vegas MS 9. Had to step down from 1920 in order to use Vegas. Sony needs to fix that. I mean why did I spend the coin on a quad computer with monster card and ram up the yingyang only to be defeated by the codec or whatever it is that doesn't allow us the full flavor of 1920x1080. Shame on Sony.
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post #2685 of 3108
1/2/09 at 12:59am
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Originally Posted by PJ Theater View Post

Nope. Same here. SR11 and Vegas MS 9. Had to step down from 1920 in order to use Vegas. Sony needs to fix that. I mean why did I spend the coin on a quad computer with monster card and ram up the yingyang only to be defeated by the codec or whatever it is that doesn't allow us the full flavor of 1920x1080. Shame on Sony.

Please refer to my earlier postings. I was very, very upset with Sony and LG for their inability to coordinate devices to produce full 1080 resolution.

I am still not completely satisfied, but I am still trying to work things out with Sony as their PMB software that came with the SR-11 allows me to attempt a "AVCHD creation" on a blu-ray disc, but will not read my BD-RE disc for some strange reason. They claim I should be able to burn 1080 content using the PMB using my LG internal blu-ray player. That has not come to pass as of yet.

However, I did pay $60 for Corel's MovieMaker 6 plus and its BurnNow 4.5 software actually allowed me to transfer .m2ts files and burn them on my BD-RE without a hitch. The results were unbelievably spectacular and play with stunning crisp detail on my Mitsubishi HDTV.

So, I cant knock Sony that bad, and if they can figure out why my PMB will not create a BD-RE using AVCHD files, then I will be happier. I would probably ask for a refund from Corel because their software, for some odd reason, is not completely functional for me. Its MovieMaker and DIscRecorder software does nothing for me and is useless for editing because of some weird glitch I guess. The problem with these 3rd party software makers is that it cost money to just call and get support after you buy their product - it is ridiculous.

But dont get too discouraged as someone pointed out to me after some of my previous posts. I too purchased a quad core HP and an internal blu-ray player (along with my SR-11) and almost returned the whole thing.

I'm glad I didnt now as I have really never seen a better high definition output on my Mitsubishi 1080p DLP, ever in the 2 years I've owned it. My recordings using my SR-11, just walking around my house and focusing in on objects and panning out for landscape shots, are more sharp and crisp than any blu-ray movie I have ever seen using my PS3. I focused in on my grill handle outside and the detail on which it showed up on the blur-ray disc left my wife and I speechless.
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post #2686 of 3108
1/2/09 at 1:20am
DLCPhoto - I purchased Vegas Movie Platinum Pro 9 recently and have now spent some time with it. I imported files from my SR11 directly to Plat Pro. It saves the files as .MTS (and .MTS.sfk0 and .sfk1 - do not know what this means). I then did some edits and rendered as Sony AVC type and template AVCHD 1920x1080 PAL 5.1 which renders a .M2TS file which I have been able to successfully export back to the SR11 using Sony PMB. I do have often crashes - allmost always when I save a project and often when I render. It is a PITA to restart and save the recovered .vf file everytime! I a, going to download v 9.0b now. I do not know if the crashes are due to my PC not being powerfull enough ito RAM or processing power (only Intel Centrino Duo). Hope this helps, anybody else please share your experiences. I have also tried to work on .m2ts files imported from the SR11 into PMB but not rendered it. I do not understand why PMB imports as .m2ts and Plat Pro as .mts. Cheers
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post #2687 of 3108
1/2/09 at 1:26am
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I have also tried to work on .m2ts files imported from the SR11 into PMB but not rendered it. I do not understand why PMB imports as .m2ts and Plat Pro as .mts. Cheers

From what I understand from SONY, and this is from a personal discussion I had with them, there is no difference between them in content and quality.

The issue surrounds how much content each file name can hold, or something like that. The MTS files can only hold so much data before a new file is created. I think the .m2ts file extention allows more data in one file (unless I have that backwards).

I hardly know what any of that means, but that is what they told me.

What I am more interested in is seeing if anyone is personally using PMB to burn blu-ray discs in full HD resolution using a third-party blu-ray disc burner (such as with my LG internal burner)..
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post #2688 of 3108
1/2/09 at 2:43am
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Originally Posted by danielwd View Post

Please refer to my earlier postings. I was very, very upset with Sony and LG for their inability to coordinate devices to produce full 1080 resolution.

I am still not completely satisfied, but I am still trying to work things out with Sony as their PMB software that came with the SR-11 allows me to attempt a "AVCHD creation" on a blu-ray disc, but will not read my BD-RE disc for some strange reason. They claim I should be able to burn 1080 content using the PMB using my LG internal blu-ray player. That has not come to pass as of yet.

However, I did pay $60 for Corel's MovieMaker 6 plus and its BurnNow 4.5 software actually allowed me to transfer .m2ts files and burn them on my BD-RE without a hitch. The results were unbelievably spectacular and play with stunning crisp detail on my Mitsubishi HDTV.

So, I cant knock Sony that bad, and if they can figure out why my PMB will not create a BD-RE using AVCHD files, then I will be happier. I would probably ask for a refund from Corel because their software, for some odd reason, is not completely functional for me. Its MovieMaker and DIscRecorder software does nothing for me and is useless for editing because of some weird glitch I guess. The problem with these 3rd party software makers is that it cost money to just call and get support after you buy their product - it is ridiculous.

But dont get too discouraged as someone pointed out to me after some of my previous posts. I too purchased a quad core HP and an internal blu-ray player (along with my SR-11) and almost returned the whole thing.

I'm glad I didnt now as I have really never seen a better high definition output on my Mitsubishi 1080p DLP, ever in the 2 years I've owned it. My recordings using my SR-11, just walking around my house and focusing in on objects and panning out for landscape shots, are more sharp and crisp than any blu-ray movie I have ever seen using my PS3. I focused in on my grill handle outside and the detail on which it showed up on the blur-ray disc left my wife and I speechless.


Reading your bottom column i can not understand why you did not defend your sr/11 danielwd against all the knockers,my views are as yours by the way. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1070836&page=5
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post #2689 of 3108
1/2/09 at 4:54am
does anyone know what interface the internal drive uses is it sata or ata-6 (ide) ?
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post #2690 of 3108
1/2/09 at 5:04am
Thanks to both of you for your reports on using SVMS9 with AVCHD files.

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Originally Posted by danielwd View Post

So, I cant knock Sony that bad, and if they can figure out why my PMB will not create a BD-RE using AVCHD files, then I will be happier.

But dont get too discouraged as someone pointed out to me after some of my previous posts. I too purchased a quad core HP and an internal blu-ray player (along with my SR-11) and almost returned the whole thing.

Actually, that was me advising you not to get discouraged, as things weren't quite as bad as they seemed to you at that point.

I've had the SR11 for a number of months, and have no problem with the camera itself, video quality, etc. But I do have a beef with Sony in terms of their software support for working with these files:
  1. Picture Motion Browser 3.0.00, which ships with the SR11, could come in handy for both burning AVCHD files to DVD-R, as well as putting video files back onto the SR11, but is not compatible with 64-bit Vista. Reports on Sony's support forums indicate that it frequently (always?) crashes the entire OS, resulting in people being unable to boot their computers. But the kicker here is that they have PMB 3.3.00 available which reportedly is compatible with 64-bit Vista, but only as an update, and requires 3.0.00 to be present on the computer. This is a huge Catch 22!

  2. The inability to consistently render full resolution AVCHD files, the format which Sony uses on its own SR11 and other camcorders, in the most current version of Sony Vegas Movie Studio is simply ridiculous, you have to admit.

This is way more complicated and frustrating than it needs to be. I'm pretty sure these bugs and quirks will eventually be rectified, but things as basic as this shouldn't even be present to begin with!
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post #2691 of 3108
1/2/09 at 5:15am
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Originally Posted by DLCPhoto View Post

Thanks to both of you for your reports on using SVMS9 with AVCHD files.



Actually, that was me advising you not to get discouraged, as things weren't quite as bad as they seemed to you at that point.

I've had the SR11 for a number of months, and have no problem with the camera itself, video quality, etc. But I do have a beef with Sony in terms of their software support for working with these files:
  1. Picture Motion Browser 3.0.00, which ships with the SR11, could come in handy for both burning AVCHD files to DVD-R, as well as putting video files back onto the SR11, but is not compatible with 64-bit Vista. Reports on Sony's support forums indicate that it frequently (always?) crashes the entire OS, resulting in people being unable to boot their computers. But the kicker here is that they have PMB 3.3.00 available which reportedly is compatible with 64-bit Vista, but only as an update, and requires 3.0.00 to be present on the computer. This is a huge Catch 22!

  2. The inability to consistently render full resolution AVCHD files, the format which Sony uses on its own SR11 and other camcorders, in the most current version of Sony Vegas Movie Studio is simply ridiculous, you have to admit.

This is way more complicated and frustrating than it needs to be. I'm pretty sure these bugs and quirks will eventually be rectified, but things as basic as this shouldn't even be present to begin with!

well since I do not have the x32 version of vista, this is gonna suck........maybe I'll just get power DVD power director 7
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post #2692 of 3108
1/2/09 at 5:25am
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Originally Posted by YeuEmMaiMai View Post

well since I do not have the x32 version of vista, this is gonna suck........maybe I'll just get power DVD power director 7

Well, I've considered this as well, but when checking out this application, and seeing posts on their support forums, this application also seems to have significant issues rendering and/or smart-rendering AVCHD files.

Short of going to the expensive Sony Vegas 8.1 pro, I am currently not aware of any reasonably priced software that is both compatible with 64-bit Vista, and which also consistently and successfully renders to full 1920x1080-Dolby 5.1 AVCHD .m2ts or .mp4 files!

If anybody is aware of an application that can do this, on 64-bit Vista, please let us know!
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post #2693 of 3108
1/2/09 at 6:07am
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Originally Posted by DLCPhoto View Post

Well, I've considered this as well, but when checking out this application, and seeing posts on their support forums, this application also seems to have significant issues rendering and/or smart-rendering AVCHD files.

Short of going to the expensive Sony Vegas 8.1 pro, I am currently not aware of any reasonably priced software that is both compatible with 64-bit Vista, and which also consistently and successfully renders to full 1920x1080-Dolby 5.1 AVCHD .m2ts or .mp4 files!

If anybody is aware of an application that can do this, on 64-bit Vista, please let us know!

What about Corel's Videostudio Pro X2?
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post #2694 of 3108
1/2/09 at 6:17am
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Originally Posted by danielwd View Post

What about Corel's Videostudio Pro X2?

There is a known bug that creates visible "glitches" during transitions when rendering AVCHD files. So for now, even though it is compatible with 64-bit Vista, it doesn't get the job done.

Pinnacle Stuiod 2 Ultimate is also compatible with 64-bit Vista, but you lose the Dolby 5.1 sound when importing AVCHD files (they're converted to plain 2-channel stereo). If that's not important to you, this might be an optioin. There is no smart-rendering. I also don't have any idea how good it is as an Editor compared to Sony VMS9.

Again, if anybody is aware of another option, please let us know.
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post #2695 of 3108
1/2/09 at 6:34am
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Originally Posted by DLCPhoto View Post

There is a known bug that creates visible "glitches" during transitions when rendering AVCHD files. So for now, even though it is compatible with 64-bit Vista, it doesn't get the job done.

Pinnacle Stuiod 2 Ultimate is also compatible with 64-bit Vista, but you lose the Dolby 5.1 sound when importing AVCHD files (they're converted to plain 2-channel stereo). If that's not important to you, this might be an optioin. There is no smart-rendering. I also don't have any idea how good it is as an Editor compared to Sony VMS9.

Again, if anybody is aware of another option, please let us know.

Hmmm...Interesting you mention "glitches" because I believe I just witnessed my own glitches while using Corel's MovieFactory 8 plus, which by the way, I believe is also supported by 64-bit Vista.

When I finally figured out how to use AVCHD files from my computer's hard drive in MovieFactory, I began to edit the content so my files would run seamlessly. I was very disappointed at the overall quality of playback on my BD-RE. The content was choppy and there was what I call video noise and distortion added in. I was not happy with the outcome. I also noticed in the manual that the editing software converts the m2ts files to a lower quality mpeg format to edit and then upconverts it back to m2ts files for burning to blu-ray. I guess that process is what is causing the hangups.

The bottom line is that the BurnNow 4.5 software (Part of MovieMaker software) is the most consistent source of HD content for me in terms of burning AVCHD content. I have burned a good amount of content using the BurnNow software and it works like a gem. I have not seen even an inkling of glitches or static or distortion. It has produced unbelievable results. I have also noticed that the BD-RE is produced as a "data disc" and each file must be opened up and played on my PS3. Yet another interesting note is that when I used the MovieMaker's software to edit and burn to BD-RD, my PS3 would not read it but my Cyberlink Blu-Ray reader on my computer did read it. On the other hand, whenever I use BurnNow software, my PS3 plays each file individually and my Cyberlink BLu-ray reader does not play it.

And for the amount of video editing I need, I am wondering if I couldn't just somehow edit the files on the SR-11 before sending to computer's hard-drive. Is is possible to combine files and transfer to BurnNow to be burned seamlessly?
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post #2696 of 3108
1/2/09 at 7:30am
Hey guys,

I just joined the HD club and picked up an SR11 yesterday to replace my old MiniDV HC30. I didn't get to play around with the computer yet, but I did hook up the camcorder to my PS3 to see if I could copy the files there. (I have a 320 GB HDD for it) I was able to watch the video from my camcorder, but I couldn't see the files as thumbnails. Basically, the video played as if it was a dvd, and each of the files were a different chapter. Also, I tried copying the files over to the PS3, and it wouldn't find anything but folders that had no files that could be copied.

Here are my two questions:
1. How do you copy files over to the PS3? (like I said, I only see folders and can't copy anything over)
2. Is there any way to view the files individually rather than having to skip through the chapters to get to what you want when it's hooked up to the PS3?


Lastly, I know that there is a lot of good info on this thread, but I was wondering what would be a good all-around software package to use if I want to put together clips from my home videos. I have an older version of Vegas Movie Studio, would it be good to just see about getting an updated version of that? Right now I'm working off of a Laptop with Vista and 2 gbs of RAM. I don't have to do anything too technical...my only issue is that I really don't have much time on my hands right now with work and trying to spend time with my family.

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post #2697 of 3108
1/2/09 at 12:25pm
Just wanted to confirm that the Sony SR11 and 12 are identical minus Hard Drive Space differences? One doesn't have better video filming sensors than the other?

I'm looking to get a back up for the radio events I film, and for the multiple panels I'm sure to be missing at the NYCC this year. I can't believe how low the prices have gotten since last year when I paid $1199 for it.


BTW, Vegas 8 Pro question. Is there any way to stop it from creating those extra audio files? The ones with .sfk and other extensions? Highly annoying to delete after words...

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post #2698 of 3108
1/2/09 at 1:37pm
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Just wanted to confirm that the Sony SR11 and 12 are identical minus Hard Drive Space differences? One doesn't have better video filming sensors than the other?

No difference whatsoever.

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BTW, Vegas 8 Pro question. Is there any way to stop it from creating those extra audio files? The ones with .sfk and other extensions? Highly annoying to delete after words...

I've been using Sony Vegas Movie Studio 9 for the last few weeks, and have come to the conclusion (someone correct me if I'm wrong) those files are generated as you make edits to the clips. The clips themselves are unaltered, and those files are used by Vegas to know what alterations you made to them.

If you delete them, and go back to your project, you'll be starting all over again, with unedited, unmodified clips. If you don't need to do this once you're finished with your project, you can go ahead and delete these. But if you'll want to go back to re-edit, re-render for a different purpose, or whatever, you'll definitely miss those files, as you'll be starting from square one!

That's my understanding at least - sorry if I'm wrong.
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post #2699 of 3108
1/2/09 at 3:33pm
yeah, those files are not needed. you know when you open a big file and it says "generating wave or peaks", that's the sfk files...

everytime you delete them, vegas will just create them again...

and yes, vegas doesnt touch your original files unless you want it to, or you do. like bring it into TRIMMER and edit the file and save it with the same name.
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post #2700 of 3108
1/2/09 at 3:46pm
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yeah, those files are not needed. you know when you open a big file and it says "generating wave or peaks", that's the sfk files...

everytime you delete them, vegas will just create them again...

Is that all those files are? I assumed they were part of the edit markings Vegas used to identify edits to clips, but looks like I assumed wrong.

If so, then there really is nothing lost by deleting them!

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and yes, vegas doesnt touch your original files unless you want it to, or you do. like bring it into TRIMMER and edit the file and save it with the same name.

Is this a Vegas Pro function?

I'm using Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 9.0b and I don't see any way of using TRIMMER in that fashion, to edit the .mt2s files themselves. And actually, I would like to be able to do that - to trip down stuff that I will never want. I do that in-camera to some extent, but that's more tedious.
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