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Originally Posted by Kangaroo128 View Post

Hey crispy ask your buddy how he got his job calibrating sets. I'd love to do something like that part-time but I wouldn't know the first thing about getting hired to do so.

Bro, go to imagingscience.com and you'll learn there including ideas on how to start as an ISF Calibrator. I'm thinking of doing it too but depends on my hectic work schedule. Goodluck
post #1772 of 8384
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Originally Posted by JustinHEMI05 View Post

Just be sure to get the changes he makes in the service menu. With my three previous TVs, the use menu changes were useless to others without the service menu changes.


Justin

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...9#post13062529

From this post:

"Please note, it is a well established fact that coping service menu values from any given unit into another will not provide an improved image. Every unit needs its own calibration so getting my service menu values and putting them into your service menu will not help your TV's picture and will probably hurt it. Therefore, any emails asking for service menu values will be deleted and not read."
post #1773 of 8384
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Originally Posted by peanut1015 View Post

well, I seem to not be able to capture the effect of the clouding bars as I have tried to describe them. My wife even had a difficult time noticing them, although I do. Either way, some have asked for a grey pic, and let me know what you think. To me, this does not seem right, but I never tested this before so I do not really know what to look for, other than the obvious darker areas that look like bands.


This TV is great, except I seem to have to same problem as peanut 1015. I noticed it when playing NHL 08 on my 360. When I scroll up and down the ice, I see some parts of the ice brighter than others, and it's not due to the lights shining on the ice. I then went on to photoshop, made some grey screens and put it on the TV, and I see some different horizontal shades of grey. It's brighter in the centre, and darker towards the upper and lower portions of the screen.

The funny thing is I see it when playing a brightly lit game, not in dark scenes. Is this banding? I'm still within my 30 day return/exchange window.

I'll try to post a pic later.

Your help is really appreciated!

Thanks
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Originally Posted by Ludevision View Post

This TV is great, except I seem to have to same problem as peanut 1015. I noticed it when playing NHL 08 on my 360. When I scroll up and down the ice, I see some parts of the ice brighter than others, and it's not due to the lights shining on the ice. I then went on to photoshop, made some grey screens and put it on the TV, and I see some different horizontal shades of grey. It's brighter in the centre, and darker towards the upper and lower portions of the screen.

The funny thing is I see it when playing a brightly lit game, not in dark scenes. Is this banding? I'm still within my 30 day return/exchange window.

I'll try to post a pic later.

Your help is really appreciated!

Thanks

Here's a pic of what i'm talking about. Am I looking for problems....LOL
LL
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Thanks for the stand suggestions - One other question...

Does the Samsung DLP stand (TR500X3B) work/look well with this TV?
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Originally Posted by D92Mike View Post

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...9#post13062529

From this post:

"Please note, it is a well established fact that coping service menu values from any given unit into another will not provide an improved image. Every unit needs its own calibration so getting my service menu values and putting them into your service menu will not help your TV's picture and will probably hurt it. Therefore, any emails asking for service menu values will be deleted and not read."

Yes every TV is different that is true. Again, with this Samsung, there is no need to get into the service menu as all adjustments are available in the main menus.
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hey cripsy66 sorry for referring to you as crispy. I usually scan the boards while doing other things and read very fast. No offense meant and hope none was taken.
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Originally Posted by chef jer View Post

hey cripsy66 sorry for referring to you as crispy. I usually scan the boards while doing other things and read very fast. No offense meant and hope none was taken.

It happens all the time.. No problem chef.. keepon cookin'
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I recently (just this weekend) ordered the LN46A550 after lurking this thread for a while and deciding based on the reactions that this was the best bang for the buck. I am definitely hoping the banding issue (which seem to be cropping up in recent posts) isn't a widespread problem, as I tend to be one of those people who can't stop from focusing on these kinds of visual inconsistencies. My current HDTV is a 32" Aquos that I've had for a number of years now, and while I've never had any banding problems with the set itself (or problems of any other kind), I was at one point getting some horizontal banding caused by interference with my Zektor switch. Prior to finally figuring out the problem, most everyone who sat in front of my TV said they could barely even see anything was wrong (or didn't even notice it to begin with), but I personally found it extremely distracting. It's especially unfortunate if this crops up noticeably while gaming, as I do a lot of that.

I guess I'll be seeing for myself soon enough, as delivery should come before end of the week, but I am crossing my fingers that this is an isolated problem, and I hope those facing it have some luck in sorting it out. Also, thanks to all the folks who have been keeping this thread so active, as it helped a great deal in coming to a decision on this purchase.
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I noticed that sometimes when I switch to HDMI2 for my dvdplayer the lower half of the screen has horizantal white lines flickering about. I unplug my HDMI cable and plug it right back in and they are gone. Anyone else get that?

Also, I head some buzzing from the SOUND on my cable back hooked into my tv through component. I thought the buzzing was the backlight but when I muted the tv it went away. I went in closer and it was the sound from the box. Is that a cable issue maybe? I'll be getting another HDMI in soon so I will be hooking in through that.
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Originally Posted by D92Mike View Post

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...9#post13062529

From this post:

"Please note, it is a well established fact that coping service menu values from any given unit into another will not provide an improved image. Every unit needs its own calibration so getting my service menu values and putting them into your service menu will not help your TV's picture and will probably hurt it. Therefore, any emails asking for service menu values will be deleted and not read."

Right. Not sure the point of this?

Justni
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Originally Posted by chef jer View Post

the 65 has a gloss screen the a550 has a semi-matte. what do we care what a screen looks like with the tv off

i do agree the 550 has good blacks, im not criticizing the processing or innards of the 550. Im mainly stating what I saw, the semi matte coating on the 40" 550 looked greyer than say the 61's matte coating. And yes this does effect the picture even when the tv is on in black areas. I'm just stating what I observed on the 40inch's semi matte screen and my observations don't apply to the 46" which probably doesn't have anything of what I said.

but please don't argue with me if your on the 46 as i've said im talking about the 40 inch.
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Once again - thanks all. I just put an order in at Big River for the 46A550. Still need a stand... but I'll go to BB or CC locally and see which ones will fit my receiver well.
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Originally Posted by Cheerose View Post

Once again - thanks all. I just put an order in at Big River for the 46A550. Still need a stand... but I'll go to BB or CC locally and see which ones will fit my receiver well.

congrats on the tv let us know your impressions when it arrives.
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Hi,

I have a few Questions about the samsung 40 a557. I'm sure everything was already mentioned but 50 pages is very much to read through...

Maybe someone can sum up the facts a little bit ?

1. Are there any Problems with a PS3. In the german hifi-forum some people are talking about Problems connecting the PS3 via HDMI.

2. Did you notice any 24p judder with the tv? Or other Problems with this Mode?

3. How's Blu Ray Quality?

4. What about operating Noise?

5. Any general Problems you noticed ?

Thx very much!

Olli
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Originally Posted by Ludevision View Post

Here's a pic of what i'm talking about. Am I looking for problems....LOL

Damn, that sucks. It looks like Sammy is taking a page from the Sharp panel making handbook. Do the bands move when you adjust the backlight? They did on my 46XBR4 which has an SLCD panel.
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Originally Posted by Ludevision View Post

Here's a pic of what i'm talking about. Am I looking for problems....LOL

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Originally Posted by bpmurr View Post

Damn, that sucks. It looks like Sammy is taking a page from the Sharp panel making handbook.

lude - i have owned sharps and have played the banding russian roulette which is why i know own a sammy. That said, i don't see banding on your screen and sharp would not replace that pannel. if you guys want to see banding go look at some of the pics in the sharp 62u and 64u threads. Their are hundreds of owners in those threads that would kill to have their sharp panels be that even.

I'm not saying its not their on your sammy, i just don't see it. If you notice it in normal viewing exchange it well you can.

ok for comparison here is a pic of bpmurr's sharp d92u
LL
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Question: does anyone's 46a550 lean forward about 2-3 degrees?

I can tell it's slanted but it's not TOO bad. It just bugs me when I'm walking around the room and not sitting on my couch. My last two (returned) LCDs also did this so it may be my TV stand not being level but it seems level to me.
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Chef I think I may see some of Lude's banding. Maybe...lol.

If it's like mine, it looks like TONS of vertical lines running from top to bottom on my screen. At least 50 of them. But I've only really noticed this on my 360 via component. I've yet to see it on the PS3 through HDMI or Directv through S-Video. So I'm wondering if my problem isn't just the one input.

I'm not sure if this is what he is seeing or not. Just wanted to let you guys know.
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Ij have a question.
I have one these on the way a 40 inch LN40550P how long should i leave my TV on (to break it in) when I first get it?
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Originally Posted by chronoxg3 View Post

Question: does anyone's 46a550 lean forward about 2-3 degrees?

I can tell it's slanted but it's not TOO bad. It just bugs me when I'm walking around the room and not sitting on my couch. My last two (returned) LCDs also did this so it may be my TV stand not being level but it seems level to me.

chronoxg3 - my 46 does not lean. If you have seen it with your last three lcd's logic would imply it is yourstand if you want to test it use a level to determine if your tv stand is level.

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Originally Posted by Kangaroo128 View Post

Chef I think I may see some of Lude's banding. Maybe...lol.

If it's like mine, it looks like TONS of vertical lines running from top to bottom on my screen. At least 50 of them. But I've only really noticed this on my 360 via component. I've yet to see it on the PS3 through HDMI or Directv through S-Video. So I'm wondering if my problem isn't just the one input.

I'm not sure if this is what he is seeing or not. Just wanted to let you guys know.

Banding in the sharp sense of things is areas where during panning scenes where they would appear a darker color. if you look at the pic of the sharp i posted imagine watching a hockey game with all those lines showing every time the camera pans

Kangaroo - i think what your experiencing may be something different because with banding in the sharp tv sense is on the panel itself and therefore seen on all inputs. try hooking another source up via component - this may help determine if it is the x-box or the tv itself.

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Originally Posted by afunguy26 View Post

Ij have a question.
I have one these on the way a 40 inch LN40550P how long should i leave my tv on (to break it in) when I first get it?

afunguy26 - i have never heard of an lcd with a break in time. Turn it on and enjoy, break in is why i don't own plasmas
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Has anyone noticed in COD4 ghosting or trails? I threw it in gaming mode, and it got rid of it. Still I could not change audio settings, which was a royal pain. So I flipped it into dynamic mode with DNIe enabled which I love this setting. Now its very minor when moving really fast. What causes these effects?
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Originally Posted by Ludevision View Post

Here's a pic of what i'm talking about. Am I looking for problems....LOL

yes, those horizontal bars are exactly what I have, but mine are only noticable during dark scenes. I was at BB today, and the guy asked if I could have a tech come out and decide if the panel was defective, and I will try that and see what they say.
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Originally Posted by Kangaroo128 View Post

Chef I think I may see some of Lude's banding. Maybe...lol.

If it's like mine, it looks like TONS of vertical lines running from top to bottom on my screen. At least 50 of them. But I've only really noticed this on my 360 via component. I've yet to see it on the PS3 through HDMI or Directv through S-Video. So I'm wondering if my problem isn't just the one input.

I'm not sure if this is what he is seeing or not. Just wanted to let you guys know.

I can see my 'bands' on any input, regardless of connection type.
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Originally Posted by chef jer View Post

lude - i have owned sharps and have played the banding russian roulette which is why i know own a sammy. That said, i don't see banding on your screen and sharp would not replace that pannel. if you guys want to see banding go look at some of the pics in the sharp 62u and 64u threads. Their are hundreds of owners in those threads that would kill to have their sharp panels be that even.

I'm not saying its not their on your sammy, i just don't see it. If you notice it in normal viewing exchange it well you can.

ok for comparison here is a pic of bpmurr's sharp d92u


That pic of the Sharp IS GOD AWFUL! But, unfortunately, on a WAAAAY lesser scale, the horizontal 'bands' are what I have.
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Originally Posted by chronoxg3 View Post

Question: does anyone's 46a550 lean forward about 2-3 degrees?

I can tell it's slanted but it's not TOO bad. It just bugs me when I'm walking around the room and not sitting on my couch. My last two (returned) LCDs also did this so it may be my TV stand not being level but it seems level to me.

try a level, you can get them almost anywhere.
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Originally Posted by Kangaroo128 View Post

Chef I think I may see some of Lude's banding. Maybe...lol.

If it's like mine, it looks like TONS of vertical lines running from top to bottom on my screen. At least 50 of them. But I've only really noticed this on my 360 via component. I've yet to see it on the PS3 through HDMI or Directv through S-Video. So I'm wondering if my problem isn't just the one input.

I'm not sure if this is what he is seeing or not. Just wanted to let you guys know.

Do you think you might be getting interference? As I said before, I had a problem with interference that was caused by my Zektor component switch, and it was only a problem on my component connections because of it. It wasn't banding in the way that was just detailed, but it was subtle lines of interference interrupting the picture. If I recall correctly, I solved the problem by separating some of the problem devices (including the Zektor) amongst two different power strips. Maybe your 360 needs to be isolated in a similar fashion from your TV, or whatever device you have its component out running to.

Just something to consider at least.
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Originally Posted by TheBeginning View Post

Has anyone noticed in COD4 ghosting or trails? I threw it in gaming mode, and it got rid of it. Still I could not change audio settings, which was a royal pain. So I flipped it into dynamic mode with DNIe enabled which I love this setting. Now its very minor when moving really fast. What causes these effects?

The LCD panel is too slow to keep up with the action. And it seems the hotter the panel gets, the less it does that type of blur, so you can't really use any properly calibrated settings if you don't want that type of blur (as it is dark and runs cool compared to the brighter settings which runs hot (why do you think that game mode is a type of torch mode?) This is why I have plasma.
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Originally Posted by chronoxg3 View Post

Question: does anyone's 46a550 lean forward about 2-3 degrees?

I can tell it's slanted but it's not TOO bad. It just bugs me when I'm walking around the room and not sitting on my couch. My last two (returned) LCDs also did this so it may be my TV stand not being level but it seems level to me.

I have the LNT4661f(last years version of this TV) and noticed lean like you describe. If the stand your TV sits on isn't on firm ground, like carpet, the weight can cause the front to sink deeper into the carpet. I wasted a lot of time trying to get the TV stand level until I put something under the front of the attached TV stand to prop it up. It might also work to move the TV farther back on the stand. Then it would sink evenly into the carpet.
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One of my buddies suggested that my problem may be that I'm running the 360 in 1080p through component. Just to humor the idea, I just switched the 360 to 1080i and it appears to have gotten rid of these vertical lines.

So I ask, wtf is going on? Does this really have something to do with progressive scan problems when running the 360 on 1080p in component. He uses his 360 with the VGA on 1080p in one of last year's sammy models and has never had this problem. I'm totally confused.

Halo 3 looks absolutely incredible on this set btw. Just as everything else does.
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