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post #151 of 1583
Wyred,

Your web site talks about second generation mono amps being released soon.

Do you have an ETA on these yet?

Thanks
post #152 of 1583
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Originally Posted by mtrspt5 View Post

Wyred,

Your web site talks about second generation mono amps being released soon.

Do you have an ETA on these yet?

Thanks

Hi mtrspt5,

We are currently taking and filling orders. There are a few that have been delivered, but the ETA for more is about 1-2 wks, and growing depending on sales. We hope to be fully caught up by the end of the month.

Thank you,

sales@wyred4sound.com
www.wyred4sound.com
post #153 of 1583
Thanks for the info. Within the next month, I 'll be getting a pair of Magnapan 20.1s and want to give the monos a try. I'll be doing tubes (TBD) on the front end.
post #154 of 1583
Is it just me or is there a serious lack of good quality 7 channel amps? I ordered the Ice Cube 500 x 3 / 250 x 4 today and hope to have it next week. It will be paired with an Integra 9.8 SSP and my Revel Ultima 7.1 HT setup. I have high hopes for this amp.
post #155 of 1583
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Originally Posted by RMK! View Post

Is it just me or is there a serious lack of good quality 7 channel amps? I ordered the Ice Cube 500 x 3 / 250 x 4 today and hope to have it next week. It will be paired with an Integra 9.8 SSP and my Revel Ultima 7.1 HT setup. I have high hopes for this amp.

Send some feed back when you get that up and running. I am looking to up grade my pre and I have heard a lot about Integra. Also considering Marantz new seperates. Have to wait and see how they review when they are out.
I would also be matching with 7 channel W4S amp.
post #156 of 1583
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Originally Posted by slybasil View Post

Send some feed back when you get that up and running. I am looking to up grade my pre and I have heard a lot about Integra. Also considering Marantz new seperates. Have to wait and see how they review when they are out.
I would also be matching with 7 channel W4S amp.

Will do. I am a big fan of the Integra. I have done a couple of firmware updates and it is performing much better than I expected (considering the price). My use is 75% HT so HDMI and HD Audio are critical.

The Marantz separates look good and it is nice to see Integra SSP finally getting some competition.

Re the W4S, I spent some time on the phone with Rick Cullen and he convinced me. Nice guy and seemed to know his stuff. Another advantage for me is that I am within driving distance (3 hrs) of their manufacturing facility in Paso Robles.

BTW, nice system... how do you like the PL300's? do you have the 100's and 350 as well?
post #157 of 1583
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Originally Posted by RMK! View Post

Re the W4S, I spent some time on the phone with Rick Cullen and he convinced me. Nice guy and seemed to know his stuff. Another advantage for me is that I am within driving distance (3 hrs) of their manufacturing

What made you chose it over the D-Sonic?
post #158 of 1583
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What made you chose it over the D-Sonic?

I look at both companies and I was concerned that Dennis (D-Sonic) had just changed his manufacturing from Cullen Circuits to a new location in Houston Texas. His cell phone seems to be the best way to get in touch with him and although I had a nice conversation with Dennis, I was more comfortable with Rick Cullen and his local (to me) and well established company.
post #159 of 1583
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Originally Posted by RMK! View Post

Will do. I am a big fan of the Integra. I have done a couple of firmware updates and it is performing much better than I expected (considering the price). My use is 75% HT so HDMI and HD Audio are critical.

The Marantz separates look good and it is nice to see Integra SSP finally getting some competition.

Re the W4S, I spent some time on the phone with Rick Cullen and he convinced me. Nice guy and seemed to know his stuff. Another advantage for me is that I am within driving distance (3 hrs) of their manufacturing facility in Paso Robles.

BTW, nice system... how do you like the PL300's? do you have the 100's and 350 as well?

I love the sound of the Pl300s. They are playing as I type. Yes I do have the 100s and 350. They all sound much better with the extra power from the new W4S amp. (3500x7).

I also chose W4S for the same reasons as you. I spoke with EJ and he was very informative. I felt more comfortable with a company that was more established. If I was going to get a new amp I wanted to get it from the people who make it, know all about it and if needed service it.
post #160 of 1583
Hi, I have a 500x7 Ice amp on order and I am wondering what you guys are plugging these amps into.

I have a 15 Amp circuit, which I cannot upgrade to 20A. I also have to share the circuit with all my other home theater equipment.

Should I get something like the APC H15 or just a surge suppressor or directly to the wall?

What do you recommend?
post #161 of 1583
"We are currently doing some fine tuning on the DAC circuit. At the moment, we haven't decided if we will offer the Pre-amp/DAC combo, or as separates. As soon as the DAC circuit is finished, then we will move to the pre, but the choice we make above would have a great impact on the direction of the pre-amp. Any thoughts?

Thank You,
EJ Sarmento"


being a confirmed 2 channel guy, i can say with confidence that separates is the way to go. most 2 channel'ers swap out their dac's every other day for whatever is new/different/expensive. HT guys may like all in one boxes, but we DEFINITELY dig separates (which is why my new SX1000 monos are arriving on monday )
post #162 of 1583
..and got'em. very very nice i must say. the new boxes look great, which was my main hangup with buying them in the past. and they sound great on my Martin Logan Vantages (which i am also firing up for the first time).
post #163 of 1583
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Originally Posted by dpowg View Post

Hi, I have a 500x7 Ice amp on order and I am wondering what you guys are plugging these amps into.

I have a 15 Amp circuit, which I cannot upgrade to 20A. I also have to share the circuit with all my other home theater equipment.

Should I get something like the APC H15 or just a surge suppressor or directly to the wall?

What do you recommend?

I use a 9-Outlet Non-Current Limiting Power Strip from guerrilla audio for convenience, but you will have no problems with plugging the amplifier directly into the wall.

Mike
post #164 of 1583
Hi, My 3500 (500x7) came with 2 power cords.

Should I use them both?

Are there two separate internal power supplies?

I currently have only one 15A circuit servicing my equipment closet, so does it make a difference.
post #165 of 1583
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Originally Posted by dpowg View Post

Hi, My 3500 (500x7) came with 2 power cords.

Should I use them both?

Are there two separate internal power supplies?

I currently have only one 15A circuit servicing my equipment closet, so does it make a difference.

In theory, it will take a total of 40 amps to drive your 3500 watt amplifier at full power [2 supplies*20 amps*.8 efficiency*120 volts = 3840 watts]. So, you need two twenty amp circuits. As a practical matter, you will likely never drive all seven channels to their maximum or even close. Think about it, what is the rating of your surrounds, how badly do you want to go deaf?

I just went through the same discussion with my CI. He told me that he has never seen an amp blow a circuit in his thirty years of experience.

On another issue, DO NOT just plug it into the wall. Power can spike and this can damage your amplifier. Buy and use a power conditioner to protect all of your equipment.
post #166 of 1583
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Originally Posted by kansashick View Post

In theory, it will take a total of 40 amps to drive your 3500 watt amplifier at full power [2 supplies*20 amps*.8 efficiency*120 volts = 3840 watts]. So, you need two twenty amp circuits. As a practical matter, you will likely never drive all five channels to their maximum or even close. Think about it, what is the rating of your surrounds, how badly do you want to go deaf?

Agreed.

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On another issue, DO NOT just plug it into the wall. Power can spike and this can damage your amplifier. Buy and use a power conditioner to protect all of your equipment.

Disagree.

Mike
post #167 of 1583
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Originally Posted by dpowg View Post

Hi, My 3500 (500x7) came with 2 power cords.

Should I use them both?

Are there two separate internal power supplies?

I currently have only one 15A circuit servicing my equipment closet, so does it make a difference.

Use them both if you can - it can't hurt. Each channel has it's own power supply. But at 85% efficiency (turning A/C into sound) there's isn't a hope in hell that you'd use 3500w at any given point in time. I run a 500w X 3; 125w X 4 and two 250w sub amps off one 15 amp circuit with zero issues.

By comparison the Anthem P5 came with two power cords also, it's the size of a freakin arc welder and most of the reviewers that I read mentioned they couldn't tell the difference between using both power cords or by plugging it into a 15amp circuit. It probably runs about 20% efficiency
post #168 of 1583
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by dpowg View Post

Hi, I have a 500x7 Ice amp on order and I am wondering what you guys are plugging these amps into.

I have a 15 Amp circuit, which I cannot upgrade to 20A. I also have to share the circuit with all my other home theater equipment.

Should I get something like the APC H15 or just a surge suppressor or directly to the wall?

What do you recommend?

I had the same question, so I emailed EJ. Here is his reply:

"The 7ch multichannel's come with dual IEC's as a standard. Both must be plugged in for all the channels to operate. Whether they are plugged into 2 circuits, or 1, that choice is up to you, but both cables must be used. This will also give you the option for circuit upgrades in the future."
post #169 of 1583
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Originally Posted by mtrspt5 View Post

Wyred,

Your web site talks about second generation mono amps being released soon.

Do you have an ETA on these yet?

Thanks


I'm sorry for the delay (a week late). We have finally released the second generation monos and have shipped about 50 units in the last 7 days. Units are now available for quick turnaround times. A new stereo version will also be available shortly. Please let me know if there is anything else I can help with.

Thank you,

EJ Sarmento
sales@wyred4sound.com
www.wyred4sound.com
post #170 of 1583
I had to acknowledge the excellent sound coming from my ICE MC amp by Wyred. The sound is the best I have had to date and I am coming from a DK Design Reference MK2 previously. I have 500's for the fronts, 250 for the center and 4 x 100 for the surrounds. The amp is integrated into a two channel and HT system. When I first got the amp I was using my Sherwood receiver as my only preamp. It sounded great. Clear, great bass, dead silent in the backgrounds. I really enjoyed listening to it. But I knew it was missing what I long for. Fullness, palapility. I knew I needed tubes. My source is an Apple TV. I love this thing. I have all my music collection ripped to Apple Lossless and then transfered to the Apple. Turn the computer off and you have a music server that has a great interface and screensaver. Of course, you need to use the Toslink digital out to get high quality. Anyways, the receiver, used as a preamp, with the ICE amp is great! Excellent dynamics, clear, natural. But with pure two channel I knew I needed a different preamp. I bought a TADAC from Tube Audio design. It is a tube dac that can be used as a preamp. With the front channels of my Wyred amp the sound is incredible. Wow! Smooth, clear, deep sound stage. The singers are much more there. Everything sounds much more live. The combo is a huge upgrade over the DK. I recommended the TADAC to my friend and he loves it, and I will definitely recommend the Wyred amps as the best by far bang for the buck. Not cheap, but you can't get an amp that sounds this good for budget bucks. In case you are wondering how to integrate two preamps with one amp, my solution was to run my HT preamp LR and my TADAC into a Niles PS-1 switcher and then to the ICE MC front channels. No HT bypass on the TADAC.
post #171 of 1583
^^^^
I could not agree with you more..... The Wyred amplifier is one of the best values on the market today, in terms of sound quality and bang-for-the-buck. I have not used my Wyred amplifier in about a month and am beginning to miss it deeply.

Mike
post #172 of 1583
I would be curious to hear what other w4s amp owners are using for seperate 2 channel music. Is there any news on what w4s is working on? Last I heard they where working on a 2 channel DAC/ maybe preamp.
post #173 of 1583
I am pleased to join the Wyred4Sound owners out there as I've just finished installing and recalibrating my system with three new mono's in place. The second generation units have been playing since 8:00pm last friday non-stop in full effect replacing the front LCR channels of my NAD M25. I am now struggling with how I'm going to transition ICE power for the remaining surround channels - multichannel 4 single chassis or FOUR more mono's!

Subjectively, I am confirming what everyone else before me has stated about ICE power. I've only gone through some of my music and movies so far but they've opened up more with new levels of transparency, imaging, depth and detail. I really didn't know what to expect but I immediately heard a difference compared to the only amp I've experienced in my room to date. Talk about effortless power and headroom, these SX-1000's deliver the sweetest sounds for my family's listening pleasure.

NAD M25 sound quality is superb at 160wpc but it fatally clipped a couple times in my early days with the Sierra's due to my insatiable desire for playing them too loud for its own good. For those that have followed my follies, you're familiar with the insanity that plagues me. I'm pleased to report that I feel that the fever has broken (for the time being) and these new amps are exactly what the doctor ordered. The Wyred4Sound SX-1000's are truly ICE-ing on the cake.

Thanks to Rick Cullen for being so gracious and informative on the phone, as well as rnrgagne who first introduced me to ICE power technology and the company that places it within reach for all enthusiasts in the ways they do best.

Wyred4Sound !!!!
post #174 of 1583
Huh, I am in the market for a 2-channel amp. I was looking at D-Sonic for a while, and also the new Cambridge Azur 840W (so-called "Class XD" amp). I wish I could listen to this amp before buying. I like that Wyred is affiliated w/ Rick Cullen (I just ordered a Stage 3 modified PS Audio DL 3 from Rick). Decisions, decisions. PLUS, I need a pre-amp (looking at the Cambridge 840E--that's why I'm also strongly considering the 840W). I wish I was a true audiophile & would give tubes a chance, but alas, it's not in the cards for me right now. I'll be keeping tabs on this thread to see when Wyred has the new 2-channel amp shipping...
post #175 of 1583
What ever happened to the review that was to take place by 6moons I believe. I am looking at the SX1000 as an alternative to the Bel Canto Ref1000 to drive my Pioneer S-1ex speakers. How do the Wyred units compare sonically?

ED
post #176 of 1583
Hello Ed,

The review is still in process, and will probably take another month or so. Most reviews take quite some time, it's unfortunate, but allows for a better feel of the product. I can assure you that the SX-1000's will perform as anticipated, we've had nothing less than stellar feedback so far.

EJ Sarmento
sales@wyred4sound.com
www.wyred4sound.com
post #177 of 1583
If anyone here orders the latest iteration of W4s' 2-channel amp, can you please post & advise how long it takes to get it? And performance upon receipt too, of course! I'm still a bit unsure since I keep hearing of ICE's less than stellar treble response... Just being wishy washy too...
post #178 of 1583
If you're waiting for the SixMoons review, it's getting closer. They have now posted the SX-1000 on their Preview page.
Since I don't have 3 posts yet, I can't post the link.
post #179 of 1583
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Originally Posted by cubbie5150 View Post

If anyone here orders the latest iteration of W4s' 2-channel amp, can you please post & advise how long it takes to get it? And performance upon receipt too, of course! I'm still a bit unsure since I keep hearing of ICE's less than stellar treble response... Just being wishy washy too...

I called W4S last week to inquire when the 2CH amps would be in. Spoke to EJ and ended buying a pair of SX-1000 monos....couldn't wait.
post #180 of 1583
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Originally Posted by darienlake View Post

I called W4S last week to inquire when the 2CH amps would be in. Spoke to EJ and ended buying a pair of SX-1000 monos....couldn't wait.

Nice!! Please post your impressions after you've had a chance to run them in a bit... I am voraciously reading as much as I can about Class D in general, and ICE-power in particular. Ultimately, I know, I'll need to buy & try--I just hate going through returns processes...
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