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post #361 of 581
4/6/08 at 5:37pm
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Alex,
I am very lucky she just rolls her eyes and says "if you're happy I'm happy".

Bill

Wow! While mine would not say such a thing and always complain on the money I send on AV equipment, she never said no. Come to think of it, she never says no to anything I do, short of dating another woman.
I spend responsibly though and never buy any AV gear on credit. Once you start doing that, there in no stopping.
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post #362 of 581
4/6/08 at 5:48pm
psujohny,

Do I need to buy the external crossover and amp if I buy the M6 or M5?
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post #363 of 581
4/6/08 at 6:33pm
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Do I need to buy the external crossover and amp if I buy the M6 or M5?

No, the M5 or M6 is a stand alone monitor... that CAN be combined with the B5 or B6 bottom section ( which consists of a 12 inch woofer in each B5 pedestal or two 12 inch woofers in each B6 pedestal section ) when combined for a full range speaker they are then called a T5 or T6, This configuration requires the NHT crossover unit and amplifier for the woofers...here is a link for the T5:

http://www.adnm.com/nht_t5.htm

But the monitors ( m5 or m6 ) as mentioned can be used without the subwoofer base's ( b5 or b6/ crossover/amp ) ...since you already have an F112 sub, I would think you have the bass part covered ( unless you just prefer full range speakers ) ...The m5/6's go down to around 60 hz or so with no problems

PS. if you get just the m5 or m6 monitors, you can buy the pedestals for them ( which are the b5 or b6 base pedestals without any actual woofers in them ) .. But imo to be honest, the pedestals are butt ugly. I just bought a nice pair of speakers stands for my m6's.

In the past I had the T5's and loved em... The 12 woofers were nice and tight and I really like the fact that I had a seperate volume control on the subwoofer section, so I could crank up the woofer now and again when I wanted to. The x1 also has some additional controls over the woofer. BUT, by itself wasnt enough as I still felt the need for a seperate sub for lfe duties. Now, in my present room which is kind small, I dont feel the need for having the B6 section for my M6's. ( especially since Ive aquired the JL F112 )
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post #364 of 581
4/6/08 at 8:14pm
^^^ Thank you, psujohny. I will look for a used pair in A'gon and try them out. While the M5 are available at close out prices, I can't find any M6s.
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post #365 of 581
4/7/08 at 6:40am
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Thats what scared me away from the Salks. The center channel may or may not be a great center, but it almost seems like it was an afterthought. Two way design and 4 ohms, Im just not sure and like you say, no real reviews.

If you're at all curious about that center - and it sounds like you are - you ought to get in touch, maybe at AudioCircles:
http://www.audiocircle.com/circles/index.php?board=82.0

And/or post there.

I'm sure that bit I quoted is a quick and incomplete summary of your view, but 2-way and 4 ohms aren't reasons not to buy it. There's no doubt more to the story. And Jim Salk isn't an "afterthought" kind of guy, in general ...
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post #366 of 581
4/7/08 at 8:30am
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I'm sure that bit I quoted is a quick and incomplete summary of your view, but 2-way and 4 ohms aren't reasons not to buy it. There's no doubt more to the story. And Jim Salk isn't an "afterthought" kind of guy, in general ...

I agree that it being 2 way and 4 ohms doesnt mean much in itself. I had some Von Schweikert vr-1's that were a quasy two way design and they sounded fantastic. As far as Jim Salk not being a "afterthought kind of guy" , I mean no offense to Jim Salk ...werent the Songtowers made orginally with 2 channel in mind ?...and then later on when some folks wanted a matching center channel, they decided to make one ... Thats all I meant by the center being an "afterthought'. Maybe a wrong choice of words.
Im content now , so I have no interest at the moment, I was just explaining why I was kinda hesitent about the center back when I was researching it.
Have you any firsthand experience with the Salk Center channel ? Thanks for the link, Ive visitied there several times in the past
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post #367 of 581
4/7/08 at 9:05am
http://www.audiocircle.com/circles/i...?topic=43364.0

I wouldn't say the SongCenter was an afterthought, as it was mentioned in Jim's original post about the SongTowers... maybe a difference of opinion, though. I can't speak to its performance, but I will post some thoughts when I receive my setup.

We probably ought to move this discussion back on topic, but I just thought I should point out that post to clear up any confusion.

Justin
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post #368 of 581
4/7/08 at 10:22am
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We probably ought to move this discussion back on topic, but I just thought I should point out that post to clear up any confusion.

If its as good as the reviews say the Salktowers are, then it will be a heck of a center. all though I dont know why so many speaker manufactures decide to go with a MTM design for the center channnel speaker ( but thats a topic for another thread, and one that has been pounded to death ).
But your right, this thread needs a new review or two of the Power5 ..Id figure theres still plenty of folks yet to post there thoughts.
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post #369 of 581
4/7/08 at 11:10am
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But your right, this thread needs a new review or two of the Power5 ..Id figure theres still plenty of folks yet to post there thoughts.[/QUOTE]

Mine arrives Wednesday. I will be doing a head to head shootout with the power5 against my proceed amp3 just as Alex did

Stay tuned...........

Brandon
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post #370 of 581
4/7/08 at 3:12pm
I see one other post here about the unit not sitting level and rocking back and forth a little. Same thing here with the Power 5 I just received today. And the packing tape on the shipping box was cut open all along the top. One of the two flaps on the box top was completely loose and only a small corner of packaging tape was uncut. What the hell!!?? I SEE no physical damage however.

I have a Yamaha RX-Z11 and am now using it in full pre-amp mode.

My speakers are all Definitve:
Fronts: BP 2000TL
Center: CLR 1000
Rears: BP 2004

I haven't had the chance yet to really test the Power 5 at high volume but so far I don't really notice that much of a difference, if any, with the lower volume levels compared to the Z11. More testing needs to be done.
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post #371 of 581
4/7/08 at 3:26pm
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Originally Posted by steady teddy View Post

I haven't had the chance yet to really test the Power 5 at high volume but so far I don't really notice that much of a difference, if any, with the lower volume levels compared to the Z11. More testing needs to be done.

Given the cost and quality of the Z11, I'm doubting whether you will hear a noticeable difference.
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post #372 of 581
4/7/08 at 3:29pm
Does anyone have a problem with the 12 volt trigger on their power5? I am using the cord supplied with the power5....its going from the "12 volt DC out" on my marantz 8002, into the "12 volt trigger in" on the power5. When I turn the power on or off on the marantz, nothing happens on the power5 (which is in standby mode). I called NHT and they said it should be working...
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post #373 of 581
4/7/08 at 3:31pm
From others reviews thus far, it seems the differences between the ICE amps versus most other kinds is most noticeable at much higher levels. The ICE amps seem to not run out of steam as quickly and less noise/distortion. The z11 is a beast though so who knows

Keep us posted after more time with the power5.
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post #374 of 581
4/7/08 at 3:34pm
I know ICEMANDALLAS has a similiar setup as me, but does anyone else have the power5combined with Anthony Gallo reference 3.1's? If so, have you compared the power5 to other amps?
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post #375 of 581
4/7/08 at 3:36pm
I just checked the NHT site and it says it covers all electronics for 1 year (warranty), but the power5 manual states 3 years?

Anyone know for sure?
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post #376 of 581
4/7/08 at 3:59pm
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Originally Posted by dave98svt View Post

Does anyone have a problem with the 12 volt trigger on their power5? I am using the cord supplied with the power5....its going from the "12 volt DC out" on my marantz 8002, into the "12 volt trigger in" on the power5. When I turn the power on or off on the marantz, nothing happens on the power5 (which is in standby mode). I called NHT and they said it should be working...

I'm using trigger out on my Z11 and it's working for me. I'm not familiar with the 8002 but is there something in the GUI menu for the Marantz that might need to be switched on?

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Originally Posted by merrymaid520 View Post

From others reviews thus far, it seems the differences between the ICE amps versus most other kinds is most noticeable at much higher levels. The ICE amps seem to not run out of steam as quickly and less noise/distortion. The Z11 is a beast though so who knows

Keep us posted after more time with the power5.

Well I'm going to have to wait until I um...don't disturb anyone before I can test out the Power5 vs. the Z11.
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post #377 of 581
4/7/08 at 4:23pm
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Originally Posted by dave98svt View Post

Does anyone have a problem with the 12 volt trigger on their power5? I am using the cord supplied with the power5....its going from the "12 volt DC out" on my marantz 8002, into the "12 volt trigger in" on the power5. When I turn the power on or off on the marantz, nothing happens on the power5 (which is in standby mode). I called NHT and they said it should be working...


The 12v trigger on my Marantz SR8000 works great with the Power 5. I did have to go into the setup to enable it. Not sure if the 8002 is the same or not.
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post #378 of 581
4/7/08 at 6:07pm
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Originally Posted by facke02 View Post

The 12v trigger on my Marantz SR8000 works great with the Power 5. I did have to go into the setup to enable it. Not sure if the 8002 is the same or not.

The SR7000 had to be enabled in the settings, as well. Works like a charm!

Edit: It's listed as DC Control 1 (or 2).

JP
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post #379 of 581
4/7/08 at 8:46pm
My Power5 arrived today. It's a little bigger and heavier than I expected, though certainly not huge.

It'll be awhile before I get to evaluate the amp, as I don't yet have my new speakers, preamp, interconnects, etc. I'm definitely looking forward to that day, though!

Justin
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post #380 of 581
4/7/08 at 9:41pm
Got my power5 today.

It came in a crude made-up box (not the factory box) with the power5 in it's protective packaging inside. The outer box was somewhat bigger than the inner foam-like packaging without any extra material to take up the space so it wouldn't shift around in transit. For that matter the foam-like sandwich wasn't even taped together. Not particularly well packaged at all - Not impressed at all with listenup's shipping dept. The lack of proper packaging made me wonder if this really was a "new" unit. It did power up OK, but haven't been able to check functionality yet. Have to order some cables and check out it's operation latter this week.

If you also purchased one, how was it packaged?
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post #381 of 581
4/7/08 at 11:00pm
I'm experiencing a ground loop humming problem that I'm hoping someone might help me to understand. I did see that some of you also experienced a ground loop problem.

I got my Power5 last week, hooked it up, and it works and sounds fine. Today, I got an Oppo 983. Since I don't have an HDMI capable receiver, I used analog cables I just got from Blue Jean Cables. Everything is still fine. But then I used an HDMI cable to connect the Oppo to my TV. That's when I start to get the humming noise. I even tried 2 other HDMI cables I had, all different brands, all 6 foot long. If I turn off the Power5, no more humming noise. I wound up plugging in the Power5 using an extension cord to another outlet. I can't even use a surge suppressor off another outlet for the Power5 or else the humming comes back. So I'm fine for now. But is there something better I should do? Thanks.

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Originally Posted by NYSportz View Post

My Power5 arrived today. It's a little bigger and heavier than I expected, though certainly not huge.

It'll be awhile before I get to evaluate the amp, as I don't yet have my new speakers, preamp, interconnects, etc. I'm definitely looking forward to that day, though!

Justin

Congrats on getting your Power5. I know you are going to love the Salk Songs. I love listening to my SongTowers and can't wait to get home each night and turn on some music. I look forward to getting the center and surrounds.
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post #382 of 581
4/7/08 at 11:03pm
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Originally Posted by lnh View Post

Got my power5 today.

It came in a crude made-up box (not the factory box) with the power5 in it's protective packaging inside. The outer box was somewhat bigger than the inner foam-like packaging without any extra material to take up the space so it wouldn't shift around in transit. For that matter the foam-like sandwich wasn't even taped together. Not particularly well packaged at all - Not impressed at all with listenup's shipping dept. The lack of proper packaging made me wonder if this really was a "new" unit. It did power up OK, but haven't been able to check functionality yet. Have to order some cables and check out it's operation latter this week.

If you also purchased one, how was it packaged?

Mine was shipped in the factory box.
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post #383 of 581
4/8/08 at 4:26am
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Mine was shipped in the factory box.

Factory unopened box for mine as well.

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My Power5 arrived today. It's a little bigger and heavier than I expected, though certainly not huge.

Yea, Since its a digital amp some may be expecting a "dvd player type" sized unit or something ..Still its relatively small and at 37 pounds its a little lighter then the 115 lb Earthquake cinenova I owned a while back , Oh, and at least it doesnt require any Army crate for transport.
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post #384 of 581
4/8/08 at 5:24am
Mine arrived last Friday in the factory sealed box, no problems there. However I ordered mine from ListenUP and they never sent me a tracking number and still have not responded to follow-up e-mails. They did ship it promptly, but their follow-up emails were definitely lacking.

I replaced a Proceed BPA-3 and am enjoying the NHT. On SACD's and DVD-Audio it appears the sound throws a bigger soundstage with better seperation. I have a complete Snell XA speaker system. I have yet to play anything at elevated volume settings, but Dire Straits Brothers in Arms SACD sounded great even at normal levels. I had no problem using the 12V trigger to turn the unit on and off in conjunction with my 49TXi receiver. The unit runs barely warm and I am satisfied so far to move the Proceed to my bedroom system for 2channel duty.
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post #385 of 581
4/8/08 at 5:56am
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Originally Posted by Bill Misencik View Post

Mine arrived last Friday in the factory sealed box, no problems there. However I ordered mine from ListenUP and they never sent me a tracking number and still have not responded to follow-up e-mails. They did ship it promptly, but their follow-up emails were definitely lacking.

I replaced a Proceed BPA-3 and am enjoying the NHT. On SACD's and DVD-Audio it appears the sound throws a bigger soundstage with better seperation. I have a complete Snell XA speaker system. I have yet to play anything at elevated volume settings, but Dire Straits Brothers in Arms SACD sounded great even at normal levels. I had no problem using the 12V trigger to turn the unit on and off in conjunction with my 49TXi receiver. The unit runs barely warm and I am satisfied so far to move the Proceed to my bedroom system for 2channel duty.


Bill,
Wow another former proceed owner prefering the NHT. My power5 arrives tomorrow. I will be comparing it to my proceed amp3. How big of a difference did the power5 make(barely, decent amount, or quite a bit)?

If you have any more comments, I would enjoy hearing them.


Thanks,
Brandon
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post #386 of 581
4/8/08 at 5:57am
My first unit (DOA) was in a factory box, but it looked like it might have been opened and re-taped. The second unit was also in a factory box with the original factory tape.
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post #387 of 581
4/8/08 at 6:16am
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Originally Posted by lnh View Post

Got my power5 today.

It came in a crude made-up box (not the factory box) with the power5 in it's protective packaging inside. The outer box was somewhat bigger than the inner foam-like packaging without any extra material to take up the space so it wouldn't shift around in transit. For that matter the foam-like sandwich wasn't even taped together. Not particularly well packaged at all - Not impressed at all with listenup's shipping dept. The lack of proper packaging made me wonder if this really was a "new" unit. It did power up OK, but haven't been able to check functionality yet. Have to order some cables and check out it's operation latter this week.

If you also purchased one, how was it packaged?

Inh,

Mine came in a single factory sealed box. Did you buy it from ListenUp? To be honest I would not be very happy getting anything other than a original sealed box. I am fortunate that I have a huge storage space over my garage and save all boxes for my components.

I think it is important for resale as most people want components shipped in the original boxes and packaging. The few items I bought that did not have original packing were not the best experiences.

I see you are in Sudbury, I work in Somerville.

Bill
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post #388 of 581
4/8/08 at 6:24am
Bill, tks for your initial impressions of the power5 with your Snells. I will be setting up my new 7.1 system with my Snell xa-75 towers,xa-55 ctr and Snell side and rear surrounds. This will be my first experience with separates and will be using the Integra 9.8 prepro and daisey chain the P5 and P2. I'll be very interested in any further impressions you my have after you run your system more. Keep us posted.
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post #389 of 581
4/8/08 at 6:49am
hoggish,

I have a similar system with a Snell xa-60, 55 ctr and sr30's in back. My opinion is that with high quality amps at normal listening levels there will be little difference. One thing I have noticed is that when the Proceed would turn on and off that static noise and popping could be heard at times. This was never a big problem, but is not the case with the NHT.

With these new technology amps, it appears that they can make them cheaper and lighter than the Proceeds of yesterday. It is so much easier to install this amp compared to the incredibly heavy Proceed. So far I think its a good upgrade, but not a big difference in overall sound quality, which when comparing it to the Proceed is quite a compliment. What this does give me is an opportunity to replace my receiver down the road with a processor and incorporate HDMI into the equation. Right now I'm living with I-link for my surround music throught the Pioneer Elite. But when it gets replaced I now have five channels of amplification so I can add just a processor.
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post #390 of 581
4/8/08 at 7:30am
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One thing I have noticed is that when the Proceed would turn on and off that static noise and popping could be heard at times. This was never a big problem, but is not the case with the NHT.

Actually I'm hearing very low popping noise from the NHT. I've never owned a separate amp and was wondering if this is normal. Strange that it's no longer happening for you since switching to the NHT...and I never heard anything like this before pairing up the Power 5 with my Z11.
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