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post #10531 of 25094
2/24/09 at 6:13pm
Can someone help me out? Previous posts have inferred that it's possible to disengage THX but I can't seem to do it.

I have 7.1 channels and cycling through the modes with the THX button adds THX to everything e.g. "PLIIX Cinema + THX" etc. The only other surround button is 'standard' which displays "5.1 ch direct" (or something like that). Going through the onscreen menus doesn't reveal any way to disable THX either.

Either it's really buried somewhere or it's not possible to disengage THX when you have more than 5.1 channels....?
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post #10532 of 25094
2/24/09 at 6:19pm
You might want to go to your settings for "Auto Surround Mode" Could be set to THX.

I am not in front of the unit or I would tell you how to find the setting but it is a setting.
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post #10533 of 25094
2/24/09 at 6:22pm
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Originally Posted by Ian_Currie View Post

Can someone help me out? Previous posts have inferred that it's possible to disengage THX but I can't seem to do it.

I have 7.1 channels and cycling through the modes with the THX button adds THX to everything e.g. "PLIIX Cinema + THX" etc. The only other surround button is 'standard' which displays "5.1 ch direct" (or something like that). Going through the onscreen menus doesn't reveal any way to disable THX either.

Either it's really buried somewhere or it's not possible to disengage THX when you have more than 5.1 channels....?

You put it on to standard and then cinema. You have to do for every component that's set to THX.
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post #10534 of 25094
2/24/09 at 6:39pm
Do any of you guys know if there is a DVD-A1UDCI anticipation thread somewhere? I searched but didn't find one.
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post #10535 of 25094
2/24/09 at 6:41pm
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Looks like I'm the only one not using THX. I think I'm the minority one here.

I don't use it either.
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post #10536 of 25094
2/24/09 at 7:21pm
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Do any of you guys know if there is a DVD-A1UDCI anticipation thread somewhere? I searched but didn't find one.

I thought you had been posting in here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1048326
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post #10537 of 25094
2/24/09 at 7:26pm
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I was going to PM...

Excellent post, FM. Thank you for taking the time and effort. I'm glad you didn't PM me, this is a great and straight forward explanation of the Apple networking products. I bet other people will find this quite informative too.

I was confused by the names Apple assigned to their components. I don't think of a router when I hear the word "time Capsule." It was a bit frustrating trying to get all this info. Now it's all in one easy-to-read post. Very well done, FM.

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Any other questions?

Gimme some time...
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post #10538 of 25094
2/24/09 at 7:29pm
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Do any of you guys know if there is a DVD-A1UDCI anticipation thread somewhere? I searched but didn't find one.

Hey Prog, you gettin' the Uber-Denon?
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post #10539 of 25094
2/24/09 at 8:25pm
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Hey Prog, you gettin' the Uber-Denon?

Geez, I don't know. I'm still so undecided. I want more user feedback on the Pioneer (and yes, that means you!), and I want to see how the Oppo performs, and maybe even the Pio 23FD later this spring. If the Uber-D shows up and blows everything else out of the water the way the AVP did.....hmmm, that'll be tough at $4200, but I'd have to give it another look. (PS: I really doubt that will happen....)
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post #10540 of 25094
2/24/09 at 8:38pm
Prog, it's a tough call between all those players. I'm sure each one is outstanding. For me, the 09FD is it. Good luck!

Btw, the Uber-Denon is now $4500.
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post #10541 of 25094
2/24/09 at 8:55pm
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Btw, the Uber-Denon is now $4500.

What??? Are they trying to push us away??? Didnt it already jump once from $3800 to $4200..... Marketing 101 to Denon: BAD IDEA.
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post #10542 of 25094
2/24/09 at 9:04pm
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What??? Are they trying to push us away??? Didnt it already jump once from $3800 to $4200..... Marketing 101 to Denon: BAD IDEA.

The $800 Oppo is looking better and better :-)

Can't wait tell the NDA wears off and one of our own can tell us the real story.
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post #10543 of 25094
2/24/09 at 10:24pm
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What??? Are they trying to push us away??? Didnt it already jump once from $3800 to $4200..... Marketing 101 to Denon: BAD IDEA.

I agree with you, what is Denon thinking? Even though the new price stings a bit, I'm still gonna go for it if I can manage to find a good enough deal on one. But if Denon decides in all their brilliance to raise the price yet again, then I will definitely pass on it.


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post #10544 of 25094
2/24/09 at 11:12pm
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The $800 Oppo is looking better and better :-) Can't wait tell the NDA wears off and one of our own can tell us the real story.

An $800.00 Oppo, now that's a real chimera . . . the Oppo BDP-83 will retail for $499.00. And a few of us lucky schmucks who've had the foresight to sign-up for the EAP (Early Adoption Program) will be given a chance (a randomly selected 50 souls) to get this player in our eager little paws within the next couple of weeks (and at that point there is no NDA); so tune-in to the Oppo threads. And with Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio internal decoding already included; how often has Denon been able to do that (even during official release, if not before, like this)?

Although I'm a Denon lover through-and-through and might have even considered the overly expensive AVP-A1 if it came in a silver finish (yeah, you can call me a slave-to-fashion [my own fashion]). However, the uber-Denon player is just way out of line in price with what it will offer. Me thinks it will be great, but will it be any greater than the $499.00 Oppo; let's see: $4,500.00 - $499.00 = $4001.00; well, hell, maybe . . . yeah, RIGHT !?! Now, if it came in a silver finish . . . ?! Who came up with the $4,500.00 price anyways; I don't think that's right . . . (uh oh ! . . . well, FM 'til I'm blue, I just checked the official Denon site, and, by gad, it seems you're right; MSRP = $4,500.00 !!!). Denon needs a reality check. Still, very nice equipment, but WTF, are they thinking M. Levinson Want-To-Be's?

Don't get me wrong, I'm a Denon devotee, and think they produce a top-notch product, but I have to think that Denon may, in this time of economic challenge, be trying to take advantage of the newly-affluent can't-help-themselves technophiliac elite.

-- da Choge
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post #10545 of 25094
2/24/09 at 11:56pm
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An $800.00 Oppo, now that's a real chimera . . . the Oppo BDP-83 will retail for $499.00. And a few of us lucky schmucks who've had the foresight to sign-up for the EAP (Early Adoption Program) will be given a chance (a randomly selected 50 souls) to get this player in our eager little paws within the next couple of weeks (and at that point there is no NDA); so tune-in to the Oppo threads. And with Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio internal decoding already included; how often has Denon been able to do that (even during official release, if not before, like this)?

Although I'm a Denon lover through-and-through and might have even considered the overly expensive AVP-A1 if it came in a silver finish (yeah, you can call me a slave-to-fashion [my own fashion]). However, the uber-Denon player is just way out of line in price with what it will offer. Me thinks it will be great, but will it be any greater than the $499.00 Oppo; let's see: $4,500.00 - $499.00 = $4001.00; well, hell, maybe . . . yeah, RIGHT !?! Now, if it came in a silver finish . . . ?! Who came up with the $4,500.00 price anyways; I don't think that's right . . . (uh oh ! . . . well, FM 'til I'm blue, I just checked the official Denon site, and, by gad, it seems you're right; MSRP = $4,500.00 !!!). Denon needs a reality check. Still, very nice equipment, but WTF, are they thinking M. Levinson Want-To-Be's?

Don't get me wrong, I'm a Denon devotee, and think they produce a top-notch product, but I have to think that Denon may, in this time of economic challenge, be trying to take advantage of the newly-affluent can't-help-themselves technophiliac elite.

-- da Choge

Just curious what makes M. Levison better? Don't know the brand well but is it because of there price?
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post #10546 of 25094
2/25/09 at 12:45am
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I have to admit I know absolutely zero about wireless networks but was able to set up an extended network with disk drives, printers, and audio/av equipment like the AVP using Apple Airport Extreme and Express routers and bridges. The stuff is just simple to use and works and works and works. I don't even turn it off during thunderstorms. I have lost two cable modems that were connected to it in the last two years but it never hurt the Apple Airport. Killed my broadband though.

Hey AB, good to hear the Apple is so easy to set up and use. I will definitely look into it. Right now, I'm trying to gather as much info as possible. I know I'm old school, but I like my shiny 5" discs. Regardless of streaming, I do need a new router.
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post #10547 of 25094
2/25/09 at 1:37am
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Yeah sorry that was not the aim of my post, The D2 has been shipping for a while but not the D2v. I also don't want to start a holywar just saying ive been keeping a eye out for it myself over the last few months and its now slowly getting (the D2v) into the hands of users and i wonder how well it well perform under their hands. My point was more that the AVP now has a known trackrecord and i really hope more units turn out to be as stable so we have some units to pick from.

Not sure if the 4 video profiles is a plus (avp keeps it for all inputs/combi's) what i do think and have stated before i think denon should release a update to allow us way more control over the realta scaler like anthem is doing with the genum.

Sorry if i was unclear, there is a reason why i asked/kept up with the D2v information the last year since well it seems one of the units in the same price range as the avp with a somewhat different feature set.

While we are making comparisons, it doesn't appear that the Anthem has the same fully balanced circuitry that the Denon has. I couldn't find specs about the power supplies either but they add significantly to the weight of the product and I notice that the Anthem is about half the weight of the AVP.
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post #10548 of 25094
2/25/09 at 1:42am
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Originally Posted by da Choge View Post

An $800.00 Oppo, now that's a real chimera . . . the Oppo BDP-83 will retail for $499.00. And a few of us lucky schmucks who've had the foresight to sign-up for the EAP (Early Adoption Program) will be given a chance (a randomly selected 50 souls) to get this player in our eager little paws within the next couple of weeks (and at that point there is no NDA); so tune-in to the Oppo threads. And with Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio internal decoding already included; how often has Denon been able to do that (even during official release, if not before, like this)?

Although I'm a Denon lover through-and-through and might have even considered the overly expensive AVP-A1 if it came in a silver finish (yeah, you can call me a slave-to-fashion [my own fashion]). However, the uber-Denon player is just way out of line in price with what it will offer. Me thinks it will be great, but will it be any greater than the $499.00 Oppo; let's see: $4,500.00 - $499.00 = $4001.00; well, hell, maybe . . . yeah, RIGHT !?! Now, if it came in a silver finish . . . ?! Who came up with the $4,500.00 price anyways; I don't think that's right . . . (uh oh ! . . . well, FM 'til I'm blue, I just checked the official Denon site, and, by gad, it seems you're right; MSRP = $4,500.00 !!!). Denon needs a reality check. Still, very nice equipment, but WTF, are they thinking M. Levinson Want-To-Be's?

Don't get me wrong, I'm a Denon devotee, and think they produce a top-notch product, but I have to think that Denon may, in this time of economic challenge, be trying to take advantage of the newly-affluent can't-help-themselves technophiliac elite.

-- da Choge

I think that the global economic downturn has caught many manufacturers with their pants down. However, ultimate pricing will always be influenced by demand and if queues to buy the A1UD do not form, there will almost certainly be some price softening.
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post #10549 of 25094
2/25/09 at 2:39am
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Do any of you guys know if there is a DVD-A1UDCI anticipation thread somewhere? I searched but didn't find one.

Well this might as well be the anticipation thread for now.
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post #10550 of 25094
2/25/09 at 3:29am
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Intro pricing (it may go up) US $7499 for the D2v, $5499 for the AVM50v.

Hey Tassop!
Frank Prowse I know of that deals with Anthem over here in the West. For us problem is if there is ever a problem repairing these units and especially has parts has to be sourced in the U.S at the time.
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post #10551 of 25094
2/25/09 at 3:50am
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Hey Tassop!
Frank Prowse I know of that deals with Anthem over here in the West. For us problem is if there is ever a problem repairing these units and especially has parts has to be sourced in the U.S at the time.

That would always be a worry I guess. But if I was in the market now for a new A/V processor I would still go with the AVP . A couple of reasons I shelled out the extra cash over the Onkyo/ Marantz in the first place were the no compromise approach Denon took to a state of the art balanced design and substantial build quality. I was also impressed with over engineered solutions such as the massive power supplies that contribute to the tremendous dynamic range of the unit. I don't think anything has really changed in terms of comparisons.
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post #10552 of 25094
2/25/09 at 4:04am
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That would always be a worry I guess. But if I was in the market now for a new A/V processor I would still go with the AVP . A couple of reasons I shelled out the extra cash over the Onkyo/ Marantz in the first place were the no compromise approach Denon took to a state of the art balanced design and substantial build quality. I was also impressed with over engineered solutions such as the massive power supplies that contribute to the tremendous dynamic range of the unit. I don't think anything has really changed in terms of comparisons.

I have to admit the new Anthem does seem quite impressive but will have to agree with you. Personally I believe the AVP is a well built unit I would not swap it at all. The new HD codecs have not been out that very long and I could see we could be with this pre amp for a least 5+ years.
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post #10553 of 25094
2/25/09 at 4:15am
I've noticed that is impossible to set the brightness on output on negative values, the minimum brightness is 0. For all the others regolations i can set negative values (contrast, sharpening etc.), so i was wondering if this happen only on my unit or is just standard (and in this case, why?).
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post #10554 of 25094
2/25/09 at 6:34am
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Just curious what makes M. Levison better? Don't know the brand well but is it because of there price?

You have touched on something there Frank.
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post #10555 of 25094
2/25/09 at 7:16am
I really like Denon products and love the AVP-A1. I looked at the Anthem solution and it has many attractive points but in the end it is hard to beat the AvP-A1 even if it is pricey (for me anyway).

You comments about the Denon überplayer are right on. For me at least there is no way that I can justify a $4000 when the $499 Oppo will be used as a transport to send as bitstream to the excellent circuits in the Denon.

If I just won the lottery I am not even sure I would buy it.


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An $800.00 Oppo, now that's a real chimera . . . the Oppo BDP-83 will retail for $499.00. And a few of us lucky schmucks who've had the foresight to sign-up for the EAP (Early Adoption Program) will be given a chance (a randomly selected 50 souls) to get this player in our eager little paws within the next couple of weeks (and at that point there is no NDA); so tune-in to the Oppo threads. And with Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio internal decoding already included; how often has Denon been able to do that (even during official release, if not before, like this)?

Although I'm a Denon lover through-and-through and might have even considered the overly expensive AVP-A1 if it came in a silver finish (yeah, you can call me a slave-to-fashion [my own fashion]). However, the uber-Denon player is just way out of line in price with what it will offer. Me thinks it will be great, but will it be any greater than the $499.00 Oppo; let's see: $4,500.00 - $499.00 = $4001.00; well, hell, maybe . . . yeah, RIGHT !?! Now, if it came in a silver finish . . . ?! Who came up with the $4,500.00 price anyways; I don't think that's right . . . (uh oh ! . . . well, FM 'til I'm blue, I just checked the official Denon site, and, by gad, it seems you're right; MSRP = $4,500.00 !!!). Denon needs a reality check. Still, very nice equipment, but WTF, are they thinking M. Levinson Want-To-Be's?

Don't get me wrong, I'm a Denon devotee, and think they produce a top-notch product, but I have to think that Denon may, in this time of economic challenge, be trying to take advantage of the newly-affluent can't-help-themselves technophiliac elite.

-- da Choge
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post #10556 of 25094
2/25/09 at 7:58am
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An $800.00 Oppo, now that's a real chimera . . . the Oppo BDP-83 will retail for $499.00. ...

-- da Choge

Whoops. Not sure why I typed $800.

Anyway even at my price it looks attractive, especially compared to the always advancing Denon Uber players price.
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post #10557 of 25094
2/25/09 at 8:34am
Hello there guys , been reading the thread,again while holding my cat.HA .
I think aud1 will be a hell of a player , BUT , do we need it?I have a 2500bt bla bla bla , you know , and i don't think i need it. I also have a 3910 , so i'm covered on the mch sacd game too. But who needs it? at this price? I suspect none. OK if we want the best universal player like mother denon says , yes , all of us, but , hey stop for a while and thinkl..... If you do need it at that price.The rest is just academic talk.
And by the way i'm talking while expecting in the next couple of days for my POA.
Isn't that lunacy? or what?
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post #10558 of 25094
2/25/09 at 11:06am
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I think that the global economic downturn has caught many manufacturers with their pants down. However, ultimate pricing will always be influenced by demand and if queues to buy the A1UD do not form, there will almost certainly be some price softening.

So true, tassop. Given the slowdown in demand for just about everything in the economy, it seems counterintuitive that the price is going up. However, I think there's a good chance we're seeing more the effect of rather large currency exchange rate changes than anything else.

Economist/finance types like me call this the currency risk factor when projecting costs. It was probably over two years ago (or more) when the numbers were run and funding allocated before they went into production. Even the best of 'em couldn't have forseen the economic chaos we have right now.

Just speculating here, but there might also be a conscious effort on the part of management to let their higher priced units absorb more of the financial impact than their lower priced units. Elacticity of demand coeffiecents are different at each price strata. In other words, the folks buying multi thousand dollar players are less likely to react to a bigger percentage change in price than those buying on the lower end of the scale would be to a smaller percentage change.

Bottom line...seeking to gain excessive profits may not be the motivating factor here. More likely they're just like everyone else in these dire times and doing what they can to get through them. However, in times of turmoil mistakes in strategy are easily made. Changing the price on this unit to such a large degree may prove to be one of them.

On the other hand, it's entirely possible I'm all wet about all of this and don't know what the heck I'm talking about! It wouldn't be the first time.
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post #10559 of 25094
2/25/09 at 11:34am
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Do any of you guys know if there is a DVD-A1UDCI anticipation thread somewhere? I searched but didn't find one.

Denon Blu-Ray/DVD/SACD/DVD-A/HDCD/Realta Universal Player Coming Feb/Mar 09
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post #10560 of 25094
2/25/09 at 11:52am
Thanks for the thread referrals, gimp and Aesculus. Don't know why I didn't find it when I searched.
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