Official Denon AVP-A1HD/AVP-A1HDCI and POA-A1HD/POA-A1HDCI owners thread. - Page 409

The chance of that is similar to the chance of me winning the lottery.....(im not even participate).

//Mats

That just hurts every time I read it...

I waited at the station for quite awhile, but some really cool new trains kept coming through as the Denon ETA kept getting pushed back. Given my short attention span, I hopped on another train!

All that said, I still have to admit- If this thing turns out to be the best thing since sliced bread, and particularly if it actually slices bread, I'll probably have to get one. I know...I'm just hopeless. I accept this about myself.

I guess you'll have to wait and see , what's going on , from the early adopters like me and seth.

Cable was fine funny thing is when I turned it off via remote even the pronto played up. I wonder if the rs232 conflictre with it?

Well could rs232 make a mistake or by having a spike on its wires confuse the avp ? I guess having a fluke result in the avp thinking it doesn't have a poa under its control ?.

My guess is that the avp got confused somehow.

I hope it was a fluke, again ive not seen anything weird with the POA sofar except that it does have a 'brain' of itself that is able to decide to bring it down and start flashing the blue light in anger (when you short a connection for example).

Daniel.

Personally i am 90% if you say i want a A1UD but demand that cable for free they will say yes. Cables are a 'play' item they make alot of profit on they can drop to sell a bigger item. With the AVP and POA i paid alot (progprog would be even more unhappy ). But i did get a BT2500, 10 supra xlr cables ($140 a pop) and some other stuff as part of the deal.

Daniel.

I hope it was a one off problem never too happen again.

I picked up the new OPPO BDP-83 for now. Works great. However, I know that I will start drooling when some of you guys get the new Denon. I know it would be so happy sitting next to my AVP & POA!

This has only happened to my setup one time (POA did not turn off). I control the AVP with RS232 (from a Pronto extender) and obviously the AVP/POA are linked. SJ

Thank's Seth , it's left to see if it prooves itself. We'll see, what happens, but even if it doesn't , it's a very good looking machine, i think.

Thank you responding,I was actually quite worried I have mine controlled the same way. I noticed when turning it off the remote it did not go to system shut down properly and thats when I noticed the POA did not shut off either. I gotta feeling it had to be some sort of glitch in the way the signal went through the Rs232. I've changed it now in how it shuts down so hopefully there won't be anymore incidents.

well looking forward to both of your impressions of the unit on this thread and how it works well with the AVP. That is via balanced inputs and Denon Link 4.

For the money that's a wise choice, the only thing you're missing out on is Denon Link. You can experiment with how it outputs SACD, with either PCM conversion or straight DSD, when I had the 980H and Integra it actually sounded better converted to PCM first.
It's nice to drool over the A1UD but I'll never get one, I can't see the benefit in it with the quality of the AVP's guts. I'm holding out for a Denon Link equipped 2500 type of transport, or keeping the 3930/2500 combo. Who knows, I might just flip those and get the Oppo. I'll be interested to get some reports back on audio quality over HDMI, and also how good the upconversion is compared to the Realta in the AVP.

In thinking back to the ONE time this happened, I'm pretty sure I turned it off with the original remote as I had not completed the RS232 install. Anyway, has never happened since.... SJ

I run all of my video through my DVDO VP50Pro and therefore don't use the Denon AVP processing (or even the OPPO as I use it in "source direct" mode). I'm using multi-channel PCM for SACDs as the VP50Pro will not pass DSD. It does sound really great. Guess we will wait to start hearing the reports about the A1UD when folks start to get them and I'm sure they likely will be fantastic... SJ

Hai,

For the A1UD lovers :

http://www.areadvd.de/hardware/2009/...end_2009.shtml

Daniel.

Nah ill leave that to you future owners before i get to sucked in and see myself calling the dealer to order... stay away stay away stay away .. must stay away..


Daniel.

Thanks for explaining my sickness i needed that ... really ...

Daniel.

Come on MAN you know it worths it, give it a try.
Really really really worths it.
I have to say , that from the beggining i knew it was going to be a hell of a machine,-player-.
Well now i'm convinced it is one , without even been tested.
I;m very happy that i preordered this thing.Period.
Heaven on earth i would call it.

After messing around with my home theater, I decided to kick it up a few more notches. I sold my McIntosh MC402 power amp and replaced it with the McIntosh MC501 mono-blocks!

My AVP told me it is very happy now.

Before I can hook these fellas up, I have to make some adjustments to my antiquated stands. Sigh, it's always something.

Tonight though, when the wind is blowing just right, you'll hear the rockin' sounds of music permeating your inner soul. Fret not, it's just me and my 501's turned up to 11.

And I thought I was hopeless! That's going to be an amazing setup...but you're getting to the point where there'll be nothing left to upgrade. What'll you do then?

Congrats father waboman your taking it to the top

While I love the sound of my first generation Krell HTS pre/pro (feeding Krell 250a and 250a/3 amps for 5.1 through Martin-Logan reQuest fronts, M-L Scenario surrounds, M-L Logos center, and Sunfire Signature sub), some of its quirks (frequent horrifically loud noise when switching from analog sound input to digital sound input, loss of sync and sound on digital audio signals from Xbox 360 and PS3 when the sound level drops briefly to zero, inability to route HD video cleanly) and its lack of support for HDMI (due simply to its age), have been making me want an upgrade for a while. After looking around and doing some research, and reading a lot of pages on various AVS threads, including this one (not all, of course--there are over 400 pages on this thread now!), I'm reasonably convinced the Denon AVP-A1HDCI is the pre/pro for me.

There are a lot of reasons, sound quality being the top one, but flexibility, the number of HDMI and component inputs (6 each!), balanced XLR connections for the amps (that goes with sound quality and conveniently matches my current setup), output in all video formats (given certain constraints) so the unit acts as a switcher for recording devices, internet firmware updating (via WiFi even! and relatively frequent), and some confidence that Denon is both reputable and in this for the long haul, all add weight to the decision. As best I can tell, this is the best pre/pro out there, for me at least.

I'm grateful for the extensive discussion here on AVS, as I'm not going to be able to audition one before I purchase it--something I really hate, but don't seem to have any choice about this time. And, unless I can get a local dealer to price match, I'll probably order it via the web, so even the best return policy in the world is going to be painful to utilize, if it comes to that.

Given all that, I thought I'd post my intentions on here to see if A) anyone was aware of problems I'm not foreseeing, given my specific equipment, and B) if anyone was aware of a better price than I've found ($6498). I outlined the equipment above, but the only thing that I think is at all risky is the AVP-to-Krell amp connections, via XLR. (There's a thread here on AVS, that I've lost the link to at the moment, that mentions what sounded like a ground problem and audible "snaps" in the audio when connecting an AVP -- or was it a 5308? -- to Krell amps, but I'm assuming that was a problem unique to that person's equipment, and he wasn't using balanced connections.) Annoyingly, there's a dip in the price graph for this unit on nextag.com all the way down to $5K. I would *so* love to find this unit for $5K.

So to summarize, anyone see any problems (besides cost ) with the following setup:
Denon AVP-A1HDCI
Krell 250a
Krell 250a/3
Martin-Logan reQuest (front left and right)
Martin-Logan Logos (center)
Martin-Logan Scenario (surround left and right)
Sunfire Signature (sub)

And has anyone found a beter price than $6498 recently?

Oh yeah, does the AVP provide on-screen display for things like volume level and mute when the signal is 1080i? How about 1080p? I see from the manual it doesn't provide its GUI over 1080p, but maybe just the bare minimum of volume level and mute? Does it do GUI over 1080i and less?

Thanks! - larryy

Larryy,
I bought the AVP without audition also, and as it turns out with no regrets.
It's a serious piece of gear and is worthy of the praise it gets. From my own experience, (which doesn't include any Krell gear for the record), the AVP is as transparent as anything I've ever heard. As far as these ears can tell the music it is able to resolve (from every media I've tried with it) is as natural and as tonally accurate as I could ever wish for.
Besides the incredible functionality of this unit, it does have the ability to customize its' sonic character to taste using the Audyssey Pro software and custom target curves. Really with a bit of know-how, I can't see how anyone couldn't make this thing fit their own tastes to a tee.

Hi larryy.

We have similar setups. When I first got my AVP, I was running it with two Krell amps. The FPB-300 and KAV-1500. Also, I have an all Martin Logan speaker system too. So, my personal experience with these products tells me you will love the AVP/Krell/Logan tri-fecta.

Also, the AVP is a phenomenal pre/pro. Just read this thread. It's quite unusual in todays age of disposable components to have a piece of A/V gear get this much universal praise from actual owners. The AVP rises to the occasion and lives up to its reputation.

Prog, you know as well as I do, there's always something out there to upgrade.

What I should do is invest in more room treatments. JonFo would be so proud to hear me say that. But I gotta tell ya, buying a new amp(s) is soooooo much more fun than a room treatment.

I said it before, I'm done now for quite awhile.