Official Denon AVP-A1HD/AVP-A1HDCI and POA-A1HD/POA-A1HDCI owners thread. - Page 6

Originally Posted by Pete

I've had the Audyssey Pro unlocked and calibrated on my AVR-4308 and it makes a huge improvement....more detail and intelligability, more three-dimensionality with movie soundtracks.

Originally Posted by gimp

The 3800 isn't worth the extra grand over the 2500 if you have the AVP.

Originally Posted by Mitch57

Where are you getting the Audyssey Pro from? My understanding was that it was only available to custom installers and that in order to purchase the kit you had to attend Audyssey's training on how to set it up correctly?

Is there a way to purchase the kit without being a custom installer and attending their training?

I would interested in purchasing the Pro kit if I didn't have to attend the training.

Originally Posted by progprog

A good interview with Denon's Jeff Talmadge describes the differences very well.
http://www.listenup.com/content/part...b.08.page2.php
The key takeaway for me was that the 2500 is not a particularly good solution for standard DVDs, whereas the 3800 can be a one-player solution with SOTA performance for both SD and HD discs.

I recently spoke with a reviewer who was somewhat disappointed with the 2500 transport. He felt that if they were going to leave off a lot of features, like the entire analog section, it should have been a category-killer in what it does do. He didn't feel it did, so he was looking forward to having a look at the 3800.

Originally Posted by gimp

I don't see how a 2500+AVP is in any way inferior to a 3800 for SD or BR. For SD you set the 2500 to 480i and the AVP Realta does the same processing as the 3800. For BR you set the 2500 to whatever the disc is (1080p60or24, 1080i, etc.).

What would make the 2500 a "category-killer"? P2.0? SACD? DVD-A? We'll have to wait for the 5910 successor for that, and us AVP owners will be stuck buying redundant Realta processing and analog a/v conversion.

Originally Posted by Franin

Hi Seth,MarkB
Talked to the Denon Rep today and was told that the second shipment has been pushed back till August.This news actually came from Denon in Japan. I cannot believe it, another 5 months away.Unfortunatley it's way too long to wait.The rep apologised and was also puzzled by this delay, but he got the call from the head distrubutor in Australia and was told it was out of there hands now, there is really nothing they can do. This has really annoyed me as I wanted the pre so bad but know Im going for the AVC-A1HD and using that as the pre.Very similar in specs and design.I spent all night last night and all day comparing the two so Im quite happy that they are very similar.There is differences like the extra torodial power supply and I guess the xlr traded for the speakers outputs which I wont use.Im sure there is other but running through my Nad M25 power amp I guess it should be fine.You guys have been great,I guess being that it is quite similar in design and specs I can still hang around.I am using it as a pre, but hopefully it all goes well.

Originally Posted by progprog

The key takeaway for me was that the 2500 is not a particularly good solution for standard DVDs, whereas the 3800 can be a one-player solution with SOTA performance for both SD and HD discs.

I recently spoke with a reviewer who was somewhat disappointed with the 2500 transport. He felt that if they were going to leave off a lot of features, like the entire analog section, it should have been a category-killer in what it does do. He didn't feel it did, so he was looking forward to having a look at the 3800.

Originally Posted by Waboman

So what's the general consensus for a blu-ray player mated to the AVP? One of the Denons? Or wait for the Panasonic BD50 to be released?

Originally Posted by Waboman

So what's the general consensus for a blu-ray player mated to the AVP? One of the Denons? Or wait for the Panasonic BD50 to be released?

Originally Posted by MarkB

I'm not sure about the general consensus, but for me personally I am waiting for the next generation of BD players from Denon. DenonJeff has hinted at a universal high quality player that will be a great partner to the AVP.

Apart from great video (BD, DVD) i would like to see multichannel SACD and of course great CD replay, possibly with an analogue balanced stereo audio section with stereo XLR outputs and a Pure Direct mode for very high quality stereo playback.

HD-DVD and multichannel DVD-A would be a bonus, but not so important to me because I don't own any HD-DVD discs and only 1 DVD-A disc.

Originally Posted by orologio

Why...Doesn't your AVP's sound satisfy you enough?

Originally Posted by Waboman

So what's the general consensus for a blu-ray player mated to the AVP? One of the Denons? Or wait for the Panasonic BD50 to be released?

Originally Posted by MC Maniac

I'm waiting for the Panny 50..not that I plan on using 2.0, but why not have it anyways?

The 50 gives us the ability to compare internal decoding vs Denon and AVP decoding on the lossless audio tracks...should one sound better than the other, you have a choice..

As the AVP has the Realta processing and the 50 has it;s own Panasonic design - I just can't justify the premium on the 3800..

Originally Posted by pentium7

He, like me and a few others would like a "one player" solution, I'd like the option of SACD, DVD-A, BD, DVD, and HD-DVD would be nice too since I plan to collect as many as possible (they are cheap)

I really don't have a lot of room in my salamander for HDDVD, BD, SACD/DVD-A that's three different players and to me very unnecessary. Denon is going to come out with one but at the implied price I'm really on the fence the only thing that would push me over the fence would be HDDVD included with all the mentioned specs.

Originally Posted by BladeRnR

Franin,

That's bad news mate as I know how much you were looking forward to getting the Pre. BUT - I may have a solution for you. I did some due diligence with a highly respected Hi-Fi retailer here in Melbourne called "Carlton Audio Visual". I have dealt with them before as has my Brother and they are quite excellent and deal in Hi-End audio. The owner is particularly pleasant to deal with (Rab Turner).

I just spoke to him that very second as I had just made a general enquiry about availability/price. As FATE/LUCK/PURE COINCIDENCE has it he just received 3 SETS OF THE AVP-A1HDCI and POA-A1HD. He advised me by phone that he has ONE for sale (I do not know what the other 2 sets are for but I do know the shop always keeps one for themselves to demonstrate).

Carlton Audio Visuals number is (03)9639-2737 (Melbourne). His original reply to my query follows:

Just come in today, there are three sets in the country, only one is now available for sale with a very long lead time before more come ...

Regards
Rab Turner

As I am not yet ready to purchase I'm more than happy to wait until later in the year but if you get this message in time and Rab is able to sell you this unit hopefully your story will have a happy ending

Cheers

Blade

P.S I also tried to PM you but it says you're not setup to accept them?

Originally Posted by GoodSonics

MC,

I just picked up the Panny BD30 since I don't care about the Internet functions that a profile 2.0 player will have. The BD30 Bitstreams all the codecs (including DTS-Ma and TruHD) to the AVP. The AVP decodes and plays them woithout issue. It sounds great.

I thik the BD30 is the best/cheapest match for the AVP right now. If you don't mind waiting ~2 months, the BD50 would be the best/cheapest bet.

Note: By Best/Cheapest, I mena it is the cheapest player that can play all the new codecs, and has no major bugs.

Darrell

Originally Posted by orologio

Does the BD30 work well with CDs?

Originally Posted by alebonau


And if he has one franin I'd grab it. your dealer you been dealing with should understand I'm sure. this way youd have one now ! as you deserve !

Originally Posted by GoodSonics

Since I play most of my CDs of the Network (Flac files), I don't play CDs much. When I do, I have been using my Denon3930.

I will try to make time to test the BD30 vs the Denon vs Network this weekend, and report back.

Darrell

Originally Posted by Mitch57

Where are you getting the Audyssey Pro from? My understanding was that it was only available to custom installers and that in order to purchase the kit you had to attend Audyssey's training on how to set it up correctly?

Is there a way to purchase the kit without being a custom installer and attending their training?

I would interested in purchasing the Pro kit if I didn't have to attend the training.

Originally Posted by Waboman

So what's the general consensus for a blu-ray player mated to the AVP? One of the Denons? Or wait for the Panasonic BD50 to be released?

Originally Posted by Pete

I don't know how well built the Panasonic BD50 will be, but I'm sure it won't compare to the Denon. It also strikes me as odd that someone who has a Pre/Pro that's $7K would be considering matching it with a middle-of-the-road Blu-ray player. Here's a link to a site that is devoted to the Denon Blu-ray players: http://www.usa.denon.com/beyond/index2.html

Originally Posted by Pete

I don't know how well built the Panasonic BD50 will be, but I'm sure it won't compare to the Denon. It also strikes me as odd that someone who has a Pre/Pro that's $7K would be considering matching it with a middle-of-the-road Blu-ray player. Here's a link to a site that is devoted to the Denon Blu-ray players: http://www.usa.denon.com/beyond/index2.html

Originally Posted by Pete

I don't know how well built the Panasonic BD50 will be, but I'm sure it won't compare to the Denon. It also strikes me as odd that someone who has a Pre/Pro that's $7K would be considering matching it with a middle-of-the-road Blu-ray player. Here's a link to a site that is devoted to the Denon Blu-ray players: http://www.usa.denon.com/beyond/index2.html