Official Denon AVP-A1HD/AVP-A1HDCI and POA-A1HD/POA-A1HDCI owners thread. - Page 665

I didnt know a model b was being released.

Were just assuming as they did with the last AVP upgrade.

Oh ok!

Hi, I have been trying to set up different contrast for my sky hd box as it's higher than on my ps3. Both are connected by hdmi and share the same tv input. I can't get the colour settings to change on the avpa1hda. How do these work?

I would like to calibrate the colour contrast etc on a per input basis. Is this possible on the Denon? The colour settings i have found in the menu dont do anything.

See page 54 of the manual. The AVP cannot adjust brightness, contrast, hue, or chroma level on an HDMI input. If I understand what you are trying to do correctly, it cannot do it.

External digital video processors raise their own set of issues but they can alter HDMI signals.

Can you please elaborate on what those issues are, as I am considering purchase of such a device. Thanks.

theyre not issues as such, its just that the scaler built in devices such as a pre processor in the denon avp here, you will never get the facilities as a full blown scaler.

that said such adjustments are usually made in the display or projector, rather than av processor.

That is the most straightforward way to do it (eg adjust the display or projector--or even the source where possible). The complications of external processors is where you put them and how you control them and still keep all the functions of the AVP. If you put them upstream of the AVP you have essentially one A/V input to the AVP and you loose switching etc. Downstream placement gives you all the features of the AVP but then you can't use different settings on multiple inputs of the processor since there is only one input. Hope that makes sense.

That said the DVDO Duo is pretty cool. I have an old Edge I don't use any more and I liked what it would do. I just like the look of the T2 Realta output better than the processor in the Edge but the Duo is improved over the Edge and I wish I had waited to buy one...

How about an AVC-A1SRA? Is there such a thread for an antique piece of hardware around here?

i think they tanked in a big way this is why you don't see it on offer anywhere..

waiting to see emo comes good on the xmc, waiting to see what 5509 look's like and waiting to see if they upgrade or replace the avp with a new model before i buy anything..
+ still waiting on yamaha a pre/pro version of z11

p8ioneers dead in the water for me the only unit worth buying is an avr and it retails $10-11 k AUD a bit out of my price range..

anything in an avr i'm looking at top models or 2 models below top receiver to get what I want

not to also mention the power amps i want to get to power the speakers i want..

god i need to win 1st div lotto to buy what want i would like sniff sniff ;( pipe dreams for me..

Have a look here


http://aussiedvdandhtforum.yuku.com/...raded-AVR-5800

Tanked ? The 5800/A1 line never tanked it was released in 2000 and has probably has seen a longer lifespan than any other avr design. Over the years it evolved from the 5800 to the 5805. After about 7 or 8 years it was showing its age and got replaced by the (lower) 53xx and higher A1 (avp) line.

Other brands should be so lucky to have 1 basic design that tanks so bad.

Daniel.

i never said the design tanked, just the sales in the unit did... once the avp came out it virtually killed the avc model, denon have stuck to that design.. at it has worked for them..

Well ok but even that doesn't make much sense to me, the reason the 58xx line was not selling as much was because denon stopped making them. They where replaced the 5803 and 5805 stopped production (as far as i know) when they released the 5308 and avp. Many at the time complained they left a huge hole in their lineup but i do think both the 5308 and avp sold more than denon expected.

Daniel

i wish I had the$7,500-9,500 to buy the avp..

That's really disappointing. It would make perfect sense to be able to make adjustments to each input when using the device as a video switcher. I connect my AVP to my pioneer plasma and if I'm honest I've never been blown away by the picture quality for such high end devices. It's stupid that if I set my screen up for ps3 its different for sky and then blu ray. what a glaring ommission.

Different strokes I guess. It's never claimed that ability or ever tried to be a full blown video processor. You won't find too many av processors that also claim to be full blown video processors. If want that as been suggested might be better to get a video processor.

Personally I prefer it to do a straight pass through and it does that without issue. With a pq that's jaw dropping through my pio kuro.

Have considered that the glaring issue might just be the gross imbalance it seems between your ps3 and sky box ? It's a good chance you either have the wrong video output settings on the ps3 or wrong settings on both re colour space. Many people fall fowl of this so quite possible.

As another option if colour space settings not the issue, the pios well my krp most definitely has ability to run different calibrations off even the same input ? That in itself will give you ability to run correct calibration for either device if they are that skewed in output.

If unhappy with pq with your system and beyond your means to get any better it of it, perhaps worth considering getting a prof calibration done. Good luck one way or another

You can find used units deeply discounted on Audiogon.com

We agree, we hoped that denon (or any other pre/pro maker) would take some of these chips to the next level. We asked years ago and have not seen any change in their way of thinking so far so i doubt we will ever see it. In denon's case its even 'worse' they shipped a external scaler (602)

http://usa.denon.com/US/Product/Page...1-3cb08b6a2bac

which is the same video system thats in the avp but with all the functions you want turned on.

sad but true, the pre/pro's that gives you most control over the video is the anthem d2v but even that falls short of what a external scaler can/should do.

I use a dvdo vp50pro myself after the avp and before my projector.

Daniel.

PS: please don't take my pointing you to the 602 as a hint that that is a good external scaler, i just pointed to the fact that denon has/had the option to enable some if the features but decided not too inside the avp.

Agreed the funny thing is that the new price of a denon avp in europe is now a nice round : 8999 euro's or $12777 on todays euro/dollar.

Still you should be able to pick up a new avp at way less than $7500 in the states. With high value items like this its like with cars you should see the sticker price as a starting point over a cup of coffee.

Daniel.

And still no Audyssey Pro with the EU version ....
I am so glad I got my AVP from the US.
It costed me a huge 110v down converter and some AC filters ... but now I have a 110v line and honnestly it was largely covered by my savings buying the US AVP version + it is black !

I was told by member a member of Denon Australia that were getting the audyssey pro this time around. I wouldn't take it it as gospel though there stories do change day by day.

Yeah forgot about that its less of a avp too (but in silver i guess) in that it doesn't have tuners, 1 less button on the front and missing the option for odyssey pro. And also the POA is $12777 in europe so the combo i got is now new $25554 kinda silly.

@franin thats nice to hear i do think however that the CI 'rules' where the reason not to allow odyssey pro. Maybe now they have a structure with installers in place ? Or did they just change their mind and allow smart endusers to buy it (like slowly happened in the states).

Daniel.

The 4311 over here I've been told has the audyssey pro compatibility. When I asked them if we were also likely to see it one representative said yes and when I asked another ( different day ) he told me yet to be informed. That's why I'm not holding my breath but it's literally a 50 50 chance we might see it in our next install.

I've been looking at Denon's latest receivers for clues as to feature directions. One thing I see is the addition of FLAC streaming support, which is awesome. Unfortunately, it is only up to 96, not 192. Also, no mention of multi-channel, which I assume means no.

Agreed, but it would be a easy score for them to allow it when they are putting in the code for odyssey 32xt. It would be less work to make 1 version of that module instead of 2 (one for usa and one for the rest).

Like you stated lets see what happens i would be nice to finally have it as a default function of a unit in the avp price range.

Daniel.

Well i for one am confused of where denon is going with their 'network' support in this area. I would not be surprised if they go to airplay (apple) for their main way of getting audio in. Airplay supports high nitrates and multichannel no problem.

As a enduser i would advice a external box anyway most internal solutions (including denon's) are not the best to begin with i use external appletv's at $99 a pop for audio and video its a steal.

Daniel.

High nitrates aren't a good thing. Ya gotta watch your nitrate intake.

Very true high nitrates make more sense .

But taking about high nitrate intakes i can send a nitpicking list to adobe again grrrrr. Just took me 4 hours to compile a test flash application for my iPad.

Some might remember that i started a flash/actionscript denon avp controller program for fun since i gambled that at some point adobe would release a cross compiler. Well after some fights with Mr.Jobs they did today and i just got something to run.

Not sure if ill continue on that project but ill research it a little more and who knows i think there are more than a few avp+ipad/iphone users.

Daniel.

PS: the installation was pure hell, you have to create 100 files, sign things, run around tables making voodoo sounds etc etc. The last bug was that i signed something with a password it didn't like (intact it didn't like the $ inside a password) that resulted in a crash during compile) amazing who would ever use special chars in a password *duh*

PS2: i also seem to have lost/misplaced my old code for the avp controller so i need to find it back hehe...

Hi guys
I'm having trouble getting my subs to work with analogue input. Everything works fine through hdmi.
I'm trying to use roomEQ wizard, but it only works through the main speakers!
Currently I am using the v.aux input on the front. If I use mono setting on the AVP the SW1, SW2 and C light up, but I only hear audio out the center channel. I'm using a Y lead into both L an R channels btw.

Does anyone have any ideas? I feel like I am missing something.

I can bypass the AVP and go straight to the subs, then output match after, but that's not ideal.

Cheers
Jamie